The 98.5 A4Q 2.8 with 111k miles idles kind of rough even after
throttle body service from an independent I no longer patronize and
after several bottles of fuel injector cleaner (applied at various
times over the past 2 years). Aside from replacing the fuel
injector(s) at considerable expense, what else can I try to smooth out
the idle? The car runs great.

One Subaru person suggested CRC Mass Airfow Sensor cleaner; is this
something I should try on the Audi?

KLS wrote:
> The 98.5 A4Q 2.8 with 111k miles idles kind of rough even after
> throttle body service from an independent I no longer patronize and
> after several bottles of fuel injector cleaner (applied at various
> times over the past 2 years). Aside from replacing the fuel
> injector(s) at considerable expense, what else can I try to smooth out
> the idle? The car runs great.
>
> One Subaru person suggested CRC Mass Airfow Sensor cleaner; is this
> something I should try on the Audi?
>
Have you changed plugs, wires, fuel filter?

Vacuum leaks?

CEL showing errors?

If you don't know that the MAF is causing codes it is better to not mess
with it.

Pull engine error codes and start from there.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:44:39 -0600, TonyJ <tonyj@visi.com> wrote:
>KLS wrote:
>> The 98.5 A4Q 2.8 with 111k miles idles kind of rough even after
>> throttle body service from an independent I no longer patronize and
>> after several bottles of fuel injector cleaner (applied at various
>> times over the past 2 years). Aside from replacing the fuel
>> injector(s) at considerable expense, what else can I try to smooth out
>> the idle? The car runs great.
>>
>> One Subaru person suggested CRC Mass Airfow Sensor cleaner; is this
>> something I should try on the Audi?
>>
>Have you changed plugs, wires, fuel filter?
>
>Vacuum leaks?
>
>CEL showing errors?
>
>If you don't know that the MAF is causing codes it is better to not mess
>with it.
>
>Pull engine error codes and start from there.

There are no error codes. The car had a complete tuneup at 90k miles
by the dealer. This situation has developed slowly over time; the car
was checked for the vacuum recall back in January 2005, no problems
then. It was just in to the independent who did a 4-wheel alignment
and replaced a tie rod end, and they found nothing.

Speaking of tie rod ends, shouldn't those last more than 2 years?

On Oct 10, 11:25 pm, KLS <xyme...@suds.com> wrote:
> The 98.5 A4Q 2.8 with 111k miles idles kind of rough even after
> throttle body service from an independent I no longer patronize and
> after several bottles of fuel injector cleaner (applied at various
> times over the past 2 years). Aside from replacing the fuel
> injector(s) at considerable expense, what else can I try to smooth out
> the idle? The car runs great.
>
> One Subaru person suggested CRC Mass Airfow Sensor cleaner; is this
> something I should try on the Audi?

On older cars around the mid 1900s the following could be done without
having to use diagnostics. Be careful not to damage things during the
process.
The Idle control valve may need a clean. Look at all of the
electrical wiring for loose or broken wires and connections.
Disconnect and reconnect electrical connections. Clean all the earth
connections. Disconnect the relays and reconnect them. Look at the
rubber hoses to the inlet manifold and the fuel pipes.
It can be one or more of the many sensors that is not functioning
properly, a connection, wire or the ECU etc.
Most of the sensors can be checked with a multimeter.

hard start cold and no start warm on 1996 a4. idle 1050. check engine light with vag codes 4074 (engine coolant sensor implausible), 407a (throttle potentiometer low) 0206(throttle potentiometer).
changed coolant temperature sensor and am focusing on common sensor grounding bolt on intake manifold passenger rear. will check cable at ecu connector behind glove box next.

any and all comments appreciated.

happy thanksgiving.