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  1. #1
    ssidhu42@gmail.com
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    Default 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport: Ignition Starter Problem

    About half the time, when I try to start my van, the key
    won't turn in the ignition. There is a crank, there is fuel injection,
    there is also engine turnover. But for some reason the "magic" does
    not occur.

    I tried both keys that came with the van
    (bought new), as well as a spare. Interior lights, head lights will
    work. Equipment lights, clock etc do display; everything works as it
    should pre-ignition and post-ignition.

    I checked with a mechanic - and he stated it might be a security
    problem with the "keys." However, after checking with Chrysler
    Support, there is no malfunction with the security light/l.e.d. and the
    key is recognized by the Engine on-board computer. Remote unlock/lock
    works and the panic button also works.

    Van has 3.3 V-6 engine, 150k.
    Checked for recalls was negative; did not locate any service bulletins.

    Any suggestions?




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    maxpower
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    Default Re: 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport: Ignition Starter Problem


    <ssidhu42@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1153262156.608843.105140@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
    > About half the time, when I try to start my van, the key
    > won't turn in the ignition. There is a crank, there is fuel injection,
    > there is also engine turnover. But for some reason the "magic" does
    > not occur.


    Makes no sense, you say half the time the "key wont turn in the ignition"
    but yet "there is crank. there is fuel and there is engine turnover.
    How can there be crank,fuel and turn over if the key wont turn???? which is
    it?


    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
    >
    > I tried both keys that came with the van
    > (bought new), as well as a spare. Interior lights, head lights will
    > work. Equipment lights, clock etc do display; everything works as it
    > should pre-ignition and post-ignition.
    >
    > I checked with a mechanic - and he stated it might be a security
    > problem with the "keys." However, after checking with Chrysler
    > Support, there is no malfunction with the security light/l.e.d. and the
    > key is recognized by the Engine on-board computer. Remote unlock/lock
    > works and the panic button also works.
    >
    > Van has 3.3 V-6 engine, 150k.
    > Checked for recalls was negative; did not locate any service bulletins.
    >
    > Any suggestions?
    >




  3. #3
    ssidhu42@gmail.com
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    Default Re: 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport: Ignition Starter Problem

    Thanks for the reply. That was my mistake in the wording.

    -the key turns 100% of the time.
    -the starter "cranks"
    -fuel injection works as "i can smell it"
    -all the battery operated equipment works in the car: headlights,
    interior lights, radio, dashboard etc.
    -the engine light is non-present.
    -no security problem as both dodge's wireless remote locks/unlocks and
    panic alarm also works fine.
    -the security LED turns off after 3 seconds as it should.

    -the only thing that remains is 50% of the time the "magic" happens,
    and the other 50% it doesnt.
    -its the 50% non-magic period, where i am stuck in a parking lot for
    10-15mins.

    hope this clarifies it more.

    thanks.



    maxpower wrote:
    > <ssidhu42@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1153262156.608843.105140@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
    > > About half the time, when I try to start my van, the key
    > > won't turn in the ignition. There is a crank, there is fuel injection,
    > > there is also engine turnover. But for some reason the "magic" does
    > > not occur.

    >
    > Makes no sense, you say half the time the "key wont turn in the ignition"
    > but yet "there is crank. there is fuel and there is engine turnover.
    > How can there be crank,fuel and turn over if the key wont turn???? which is
    > it?
    >
    >
    > Glenn Beasley
    > Chrysler Tech
    > >
    > > I tried both keys that came with the van
    > > (bought new), as well as a spare. Interior lights, head lights will
    > > work. Equipment lights, clock etc do display; everything works as it
    > > should pre-ignition and post-ignition.
    > >
    > > I checked with a mechanic - and he stated it might be a security
    > > problem with the "keys." However, after checking with Chrysler
    > > Support, there is no malfunction with the security light/l.e.d. and the
    > > key is recognized by the Engine on-board computer. Remote unlock/lock
    > > works and the panic button also works.
    > >
    > > Van has 3.3 V-6 engine, 150k.
    > > Checked for recalls was negative; did not locate any service bulletins.
    > >
    > > Any suggestions?
    > >



  4. #4
    maxpower
    Guest

    Default Re: 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport: Ignition Starter Problem


    <ssidhu42@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1153324827.614030.180080@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
    > Thanks for the reply. That was my mistake in the wording.
    >
    > -the key turns 100% of the time.
    > -the starter "cranks"
    > -fuel injection works as "i can smell it"
    > -all the battery operated equipment works in the car: headlights,
    > interior lights, radio, dashboard etc.
    > -the engine light is non-present.
    > -no security problem as both dodge's wireless remote locks/unlocks and
    > panic alarm also works fine.
    > -the security LED turns off after 3 seconds as it should.
    >
    > -the only thing that remains is 50% of the time the "magic" happens,
    > and the other 50% it doesnt.
    > -its the 50% non-magic period, where i am stuck in a parking lot for
    > 10-15mins.
    >
    > hope this clarifies it more.
    >
    > thanks.
    >
    >
    >
    > maxpower wrote:
    > > <ssidhu42@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:1153262156.608843.105140@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
    > > > About half the time, when I try to start my van, the key
    > > > won't turn in the ignition. There is a crank, there is fuel

    injection,
    > > > there is also engine turnover. But for some reason the "magic" does
    > > > not occur.

    > >
    > > Makes no sense, you say half the time the "key wont turn in the

    ignition"
    > > but yet "there is crank. there is fuel and there is engine turnover.
    > > How can there be crank,fuel and turn over if the key wont turn???? which

    is
    > > it?
    > >
    > >
    > > Glenn Beasley
    > > Chrysler Tech
    > > >
    > > > I tried both keys that came with the van
    > > > (bought new), as well as a spare. Interior lights, head lights will
    > > > work. Equipment lights, clock etc do display; everything works as it
    > > > should pre-ignition and post-ignition.
    > > >
    > > > I checked with a mechanic - and he stated it might be a security
    > > > problem with the "keys." However, after checking with Chrysler
    > > > Support, there is no malfunction with the security light/l.e.d. and

    the
    > > > key is recognized by the Engine on-board computer. Remote unlock/lock
    > > > works and the panic button also works.
    > > >
    > > > Van has 3.3 V-6 engine, 150k.
    > > > Checked for recalls was negative; did not locate any service

    bulletins.
    > > >
    > > > Any suggestions?
    > > >

    >


    I would take it to the dealer and have them pull all if any fault codes from
    the SKIM module to see if it is related to Sentry Key problem.
    They can also have the scan tool connected to monitor all sensors and
    switches to see which one is possibly causing the problem.

    My guess is a fault code set for a transponder mismatch in the SKIM module.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech



  5. #5
    ssidhu42@gmail.com
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    Default Re: 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport: Ignition Starter Problem

    Thank you for the reply.

    I took it to a dealership and the all the fault codes were cleared from
    the Engine Control Unit. The mechanic told me to use the back-up key.
    After utilizing it for a couple of tries, it problem resurfaced again.
    Is it possible to clear SKIM module manually by turning the key from
    the "off" to "on" position a number of times?

    If there are no more possible suggestions, I would regretfully go and
    get a full inspection.

    Thank you for all your help.

    > I would take it to the dealer and have them pull all if any fault codes from
    > the SKIM module to see if it is related to Sentry Key problem.
    > They can also have the scan tool connected to monitor all sensors and
    > switches to see which one is possibly causing the problem.
    >
    > My guess is a fault code set for a transponder mismatch in the SKIM module.
    >
    > Glenn Beasley
    > Chrysler Tech


    > > Thanks for the reply. That was my mistake in the wording.
    > >
    > > -the key turns 100% of the time.
    > > -the starter "cranks"
    > > -fuel injection works as "i can smell it"
    > > -all the battery operated equipment works in the car: headlights,
    > > interior lights, radio, dashboard etc.
    > > -the engine light is non-present.
    > > -no security problem as both dodge's wireless remote locks/unlocks and
    > > panic alarm also works fine.
    > > -the security LED turns off after 3 seconds as it should.
    > >
    > > -the only thing that remains is 50% of the time the "magic" happens,
    > > and the other 50% it doesnt.
    > > -its the 50% non-magic period, where i am stuck in a parking lot for
    > > 10-15mins.
    > >
    > > hope this clarifies it more.
    > >
    > > thanks.
    > >
    > >
    > > > > About half the time, when I try to start my van, the key
    > > > > won't turn in the ignition. There is a crank, there is fuel

    > injection,
    > > > > there is also engine turnover. But for some reason the "magic" does
    > > > > not occur.
    > > >
    > > > Makes no sense, you say half the time the "key wont turn in the

    > ignition"
    > > > but yet "there is crank. there is fuel and there is engine turnover.
    > > > How can there be crank,fuel and turn over if the key wont turn???? which

    > is
    > > > it?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Glenn Beasley
    > > > Chrysler Tech
    > > > >
    > > > > I tried both keys that came with the van
    > > > > (bought new), as well as a spare. Interior lights, head lights will
    > > > > work. Equipment lights, clock etc do display; everything works as it
    > > > > should pre-ignition and post-ignition.
    > > > >
    > > > > I checked with a mechanic - and he stated it might be a security
    > > > > problem with the "keys." However, after checking with Chrysler
    > > > > Support, there is no malfunction with the security light/l.e.d. and

    > the
    > > > > key is recognized by the Engine on-board computer. Remote unlock/lock
    > > > > works and the panic button also works.
    > > > >
    > > > > Van has 3.3 V-6 engine, 150k.
    > > > > Checked for recalls was negative; did not locate any service

    > bulletins.
    > > > >
    > > > > Any suggestions?
    > > > >

    > >

    >



  6. #6
    maxpower
    Guest

    Default Re: 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport: Ignition Starter Problem


    <ssidhu42@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1153346651.389277.155130@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
    > Thank you for the reply.
    >
    > I took it to a dealership and the all the fault codes were cleared from
    > the Engine Control Unit. The mechanic told me to use the back-up key.
    > After utilizing it for a couple of tries, it problem resurfaced again.
    > Is it possible to clear SKIM module manually by turning the key from
    > the "off" to "on" position a number of times?
    >
    > If there are no more possible suggestions, I would regretfully go and
    > get a full inspection.
    >
    > Thank you for all your help.
    >
    > > I would take it to the dealer and have them pull all if any fault codes

    from
    > > the SKIM module to see if it is related to Sentry Key problem.
    > > They can also have the scan tool connected to monitor all sensors and
    > > switches to see which one is possibly causing the problem.
    > >
    > > My guess is a fault code set for a transponder mismatch in the SKIM

    module.
    > >
    > > Glenn Beasley
    > > Chrysler Tech

    >
    > > > Thanks for the reply. That was my mistake in the wording.
    > > >
    > > > -the key turns 100% of the time.
    > > > -the starter "cranks"
    > > > -fuel injection works as "i can smell it"
    > > > -all the battery operated equipment works in the car: headlights,
    > > > interior lights, radio, dashboard etc.
    > > > -the engine light is non-present.
    > > > -no security problem as both dodge's wireless remote locks/unlocks and
    > > > panic alarm also works fine.
    > > > -the security LED turns off after 3 seconds as it should.
    > > >
    > > > -the only thing that remains is 50% of the time the "magic" happens,
    > > > and the other 50% it doesnt.
    > > > -its the 50% non-magic period, where i am stuck in a parking lot for
    > > > 10-15mins.
    > > >
    > > > hope this clarifies it more.
    > > >
    > > > thanks.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > > About half the time, when I try to start my van, the key
    > > > > > won't turn in the ignition. There is a crank, there is fuel

    > > injection,
    > > > > > there is also engine turnover. But for some reason the "magic"

    does
    > > > > > not occur.
    > > > >
    > > > > Makes no sense, you say half the time the "key wont turn in the

    > > ignition"
    > > > > but yet "there is crank. there is fuel and there is engine turnover.
    > > > > How can there be crank,fuel and turn over if the key wont turn????

    which
    > > is
    > > > > it?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Glenn Beasley
    > > > > Chrysler Tech
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I tried both keys that came with the van
    > > > > > (bought new), as well as a spare. Interior lights, head lights

    will
    > > > > > work. Equipment lights, clock etc do display; everything works as

    it
    > > > > > should pre-ignition and post-ignition.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I checked with a mechanic - and he stated it might be a security
    > > > > > problem with the "keys." However, after checking with Chrysler
    > > > > > Support, there is no malfunction with the security light/l.e.d.

    and
    > > the
    > > > > > key is recognized by the Engine on-board computer. Remote

    unlock/lock
    > > > > > works and the panic button also works.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Van has 3.3 V-6 engine, 150k.
    > > > > > Checked for recalls was negative; did not locate any service

    > > bulletins.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Any suggestions?
    > > > > >
    > > >

    > >

    >

    Always get the codes in writing that were found. I take it they didn't scan
    the SKIM module for any codes?
    You cannot get or clear codes from the SKIM Module



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