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    Mike Hunter
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    Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions

    That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however, when
    one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
    Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.

    Camry and Accord may sell more fours and standard shift cars, but Fusion
    buyers are choosing the V6 six speed in higher percentages, over their far
    more expensive V6s Eight out of ten Camrys sold in the US are only fours,
    the reverse is more likely true of the Fusion. The fact remains one can
    drive home a V6 Fusion for less than a four cylinder Camry, as CR pointed
    out


    mike


    <iwhtcimtlfmwmaomopw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1173078358.396408.50820@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
    > http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...fusion-se.html
    >
    > 2007 Ford Fusion SE - Short Take Road Tests 1 | 2
    >
    > The handsome four-cylinder, five-speed manual Fusion targets the
    > import champions, but does it stack up?
    > BY JARED GALL, January 2007
    >
    >
    > In our February issue, we ran a comparison test of mid-size sedans
    > from which the Fusion was absent. All those cars were new-for-2007
    > models from our 10Best hoopla, where the Accord beat them all to take
    > the trophy (again). We put together the comparo to see where the also-
    > rans would filter in below the Honda, and if the Accord would remain
    > on top when all the cars were sampled with four-cylinder engines and
    > automatics (the most-sold combination). Since a V-6 Fusion had already
    > lost to the Accord in a previous comparo, it stayed home for this one
    > as well. But the comparo was a timely reason to get our hands on a
    > four-cylinder Fusion, so we took it.
    >
    >
    >
    > You can't talk Fusions without talking style: This is the best looking
    > Ford sedan in years. A rakish, high beltline with simple, clean sides
    > and subtle fender flares is topped by an angular greenhouse. Edges in
    > the sheetmetal are creased, but softer than a Cadillac. The outer
    > corners of the headlights creep up into the hood, as though being
    > pulled back by the wind rushing over them, and the oversized taillamps
    > get clear lenses that wrap around into the car's flanks. The look is
    > clean and understated, with bright detail work to bring out the luxury
    > look, like the sparse jewelry of a tuxedo. We like it.
    >
    > Inside, the SE we tested was more Lee Dungarees and Jerzees t-shirt.
    > Nothing wrong with that in a $20,525 car. For $395, our Fusion was
    > upgraded with the Appearance Package, which includes 17-inch wheels
    > and spices up the plain black cloth seats with inserts dappled with
    > sporty-looking red stitching. It looks sporty and feels comfortable.
    > The dash, center stack, and steering wheel audio and cruise controls
    > are intuitively laid out, but unremarkable in their appearance.
    >
    > The same could be said of the Fusion driving experience. Everything is
    > just fine, but unremarkable. The steering wheel asks reasonable effort
    > and provides decent feedback, but is a little too light and a touch
    > numb. The clutch pedal is smooth, but also a tad uncommunicative and
    > travel is as long as some of our commutes. The shifter isn't bad, but
    > it isn't good enough to elevate it above what can be found in any
    > competing car; and whoever decided it should be topped with a softball-
    > sized knob must be a recent transfer from Ford's commercial truck
    > division.
    >
    >
    > Although the performance figures we recorded-0-to-60-mph in 8.1
    > seconds, the quarter-mile in 16.4 at 85 mph-would have put the Fusion
    > solidly mid-pack in the comparo, but those cars were all saddled with
    > automatics and were thus a little bit off race pace; and the Ford's
    > 160-hp 2.3-liter adds little joy to acceleration. On the skidpad, the
    > Fusion managed a comparo-besting 0.83 g, but it gives up a lot of the
    > refinement found in the Camry to achieve it.
    >
    > Ford's Fusion is a strong contender in the steady mid-size segment. It
    > looks great from the outside, good on the inside, and its performance
    > is on par with the competition. Ford loyalists will be happy with this
    > car. But aside from its looks, the Fusion offers no standout qualities
    > that will bring Camry and Accord drivers into Ford showrooms.
    >






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    Jeff
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    "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    news:noydnTcZ2YnyzHHYnZ2dnUVZ_oOonZ2d@ptd.net...
    > That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however,
    > when one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
    > Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.


    In January and Februry, more than 50,000 Camries and Accords (each) were
    sold, compared to about 24,000 Fusions. What a stand-out.

    > Camry and Accord may sell more fours and standard shift cars, but Fusion
    > buyers are choosing the V6 six speed in higher percentages, over their far
    > more expensive V6s Eight out of ten Camrys sold in the US are only fours,
    > the reverse is more likely true of the Fusion. The fact remains one can
    > drive home a V6 Fusion for less than a four cylinder Camry, as CR pointed
    > out
    >
    >
    > mike
    >
    >
    > <iwhtcimtlfmwmaomopw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:1173078358.396408.50820@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
    >> http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...fusion-se.html
    >>
    >> 2007 Ford Fusion SE - Short Take Road Tests 1 | 2
    >>
    >> The handsome four-cylinder, five-speed manual Fusion targets the
    >> import champions, but does it stack up?
    >> BY JARED GALL, January 2007
    >>
    >>
    >> In our February issue, we ran a comparison test of mid-size sedans
    >> from which the Fusion was absent. All those cars were new-for-2007
    >> models from our 10Best hoopla, where the Accord beat them all to take
    >> the trophy (again). We put together the comparo to see where the also-
    >> rans would filter in below the Honda, and if the Accord would remain
    >> on top when all the cars were sampled with four-cylinder engines and
    >> automatics (the most-sold combination). Since a V-6 Fusion had already
    >> lost to the Accord in a previous comparo, it stayed home for this one
    >> as well. But the comparo was a timely reason to get our hands on a
    >> four-cylinder Fusion, so we took it.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> You can't talk Fusions without talking style: This is the best looking
    >> Ford sedan in years. A rakish, high beltline with simple, clean sides
    >> and subtle fender flares is topped by an angular greenhouse. Edges in
    >> the sheetmetal are creased, but softer than a Cadillac. The outer
    >> corners of the headlights creep up into the hood, as though being
    >> pulled back by the wind rushing over them, and the oversized taillamps
    >> get clear lenses that wrap around into the car's flanks. The look is
    >> clean and understated, with bright detail work to bring out the luxury
    >> look, like the sparse jewelry of a tuxedo. We like it.
    >>
    >> Inside, the SE we tested was more Lee Dungarees and Jerzees t-shirt.
    >> Nothing wrong with that in a $20,525 car. For $395, our Fusion was
    >> upgraded with the Appearance Package, which includes 17-inch wheels
    >> and spices up the plain black cloth seats with inserts dappled with
    >> sporty-looking red stitching. It looks sporty and feels comfortable.
    >> The dash, center stack, and steering wheel audio and cruise controls
    >> are intuitively laid out, but unremarkable in their appearance.
    >>
    >> The same could be said of the Fusion driving experience. Everything is
    >> just fine, but unremarkable. The steering wheel asks reasonable effort
    >> and provides decent feedback, but is a little too light and a touch
    >> numb. The clutch pedal is smooth, but also a tad uncommunicative and
    >> travel is as long as some of our commutes. The shifter isn't bad, but
    >> it isn't good enough to elevate it above what can be found in any
    >> competing car; and whoever decided it should be topped with a softball-
    >> sized knob must be a recent transfer from Ford's commercial truck
    >> division.
    >>
    >>
    >> Although the performance figures we recorded-0-to-60-mph in 8.1
    >> seconds, the quarter-mile in 16.4 at 85 mph-would have put the Fusion
    >> solidly mid-pack in the comparo, but those cars were all saddled with
    >> automatics and were thus a little bit off race pace; and the Ford's
    >> 160-hp 2.3-liter adds little joy to acceleration. On the skidpad, the
    >> Fusion managed a comparo-besting 0.83 g, but it gives up a lot of the
    >> refinement found in the Camry to achieve it.
    >>
    >> Ford's Fusion is a strong contender in the steady mid-size segment. It
    >> looks great from the outside, good on the inside, and its performance
    >> is on par with the competition. Ford loyalists will be happy with this
    >> car. But aside from its looks, the Fusion offers no standout qualities
    >> that will bring Camry and Accord drivers into Ford showrooms.
    >>

    >
    >



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    Jeff
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    Default Re: Re:Fusion targets imports, for less less money


    "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    news:fN2dncYlaeU863HYnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@ptd.net...
    > Perhaps but Toyota sold only around 10,000 V6 Camrys and Ford sold nearly
    > twice as many V6 Fusions. Why would a smart buyer settle for an
    > underpowered four, in a mid size car, when one can drive home a V6 for
    > less?
    >
    > mike
    >
    >
    > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
    > news:Q2ZGh.1718$3i.63@trnddc01...
    >>
    >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    >> news:noydnTcZ2YnyzHHYnZ2dnUVZ_oOonZ2d@ptd.net...
    >>> That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however,
    >>> when one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
    >>> Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.

    >>
    >> In January and Februry, more than 50,000 Camries and Accords (each) were
    >> sold, compared to about 24,000 Fusions. What a stand-out.
    >>
    >>> Camry and Accord may sell more fours and standard shift cars, but Fusion
    >>> buyers are choosing the V6 six speed in higher percentages, over their
    >>> far more expensive V6s Eight out of ten Camrys sold in the US are only
    >>> fours, the reverse is more likely true of the Fusion. The fact remains
    >>> one can drive home a V6 Fusion for less than a four cylinder Camry, as
    >>> CR pointed out
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> mike


    What is the difference in performance between the Toyota 4-cyl and Ford
    Fusion, like acceleration? Fuel economy?

    The specs I saw has my 10-year old Contour (0 - 60 in 7.1 sec) faster than
    the Ford Fusion (7.5 sec) even though my engine only makes about 170 HP and
    170 lb-ft of torque, while the Fusion is over 200 in both. It seems that the
    Fusion's performance is not all that great, considering the amount of power.

    The reviews that I read said that the Toyota has adequate power.

    I guess people will take a little less acceleration when they get better gas
    milage and car they think is a better value.

    BTW, the top speed on highways is about 75 or 80 mph. Both cars will get
    there fast enough. I guess the difference is that the Camry is better able
    to use its power, saving the owner fuel.

    Jeff


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    Jeff
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    Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions


    "Ed White" <ce.white3@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1173124909.127449.295330@t69g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com...
    > On Mar 5, 1:10 pm, "Jeff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote:
    >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehu...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:noydnTcZ2YnyzHHYnZ2dnUVZ_oOonZ2d@ptd.net...
    >>
    >> > That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however,
    >> > when one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
    >> > Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.

    >>
    >> In January and Februry, more than 50,000 Camries and Accords (each) were
    >> sold, compared to about 24,000 Fusions. What a stand-out.

    >
    > If you look at it from Ford's standpoint, Fusion sales were up 24%
    > year to year. You probably also ought to include Milan sales for a
    > true picture. According to Ford, total year to date sales for Fusion +
    > Milan is 29,446 (23,888 Fusions and 5,558 Milans). Interestingly,
    > Toyota reports a far higher number for Camry sales than Wards does.
    > Toyota claims 2007 year to date Camry sales as 63,609. Wards claims
    > 57,476. I don't know why Toyota reports a number far larger volume
    > than Wards (11% larger). My guess would be that Toyota is including
    > Solara sales in the "Camry" number and Wards isn't.
    >
    > On the bright side for Domestic producers, the Chevy Impala is not so
    > far behind the Camry and Accord (2007 ytd sales of 52200). If you lump
    > in the Monte Carlo (really just a 2 Door Impala), the Impala + Monte
    > Carlo sales are 55,128 so far in 2007. This would put it within a few
    > hundred units of the second place Accord (which includes 2 and 4 door
    > models). Three years ago Imapla sales were a non factor. So, I think
    > this indicates that with the proper product and good marketing you can
    > compete with the Japanese in the mid-sized market. The Fusion is a
    > good product, Ford just needs to market it better.
    >
    > Ed


    The other thing is that it takes a while for sales to build up.

    The Fusion, Camry, Impala and Accord are all good cars, though.

    Jeff


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    Jeff
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    Default Re: Fusion targets imports, for less less money


    "Ed White" <ce.white3@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1173133956.841930.98500@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
    > On Mar 5, 4:51 pm, Andrew Rossmann
    > <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote:
    >> In article <kv%Gh.1745$3i.1006@trnddc01>, n...@googlemail.com says...
    >>
    >> > What is the difference in performance between the Toyota 4-cyl and Ford
    >> > Fusion, like acceleration? Fuel economy?

    >>
    >> > The specs I saw has my 10-year old Contour (0 - 60 in 7.1 sec) faster
    >> > than
    >> > the Ford Fusion (7.5 sec) even though my engine only makes about 170 HP
    >> > and
    >> > 170 lb-ft of torque, while the Fusion is over 200 in both. It seems
    >> > that the
    >> > Fusion's performance is not all that great, considering the amount of
    >> > power.

    >>
    >> The Contour weighed around 3000-3100 lbs. The Fusion is 3300-3500 lbs.
    >> Not to mention gearing and HP/Torque curves all play into acceleration,
    >> too.

    >
    > Consumer Reports measured the 0-60 for a Fusion SEL AWD 3.0L V-6 as
    > 8.0 sec. The 4 cylinder manual FWD was 9.5 sec. Interestingly Car and
    > Driver did a 8.1 sec 0-60 in a four cylinder Fusion and did a 7.4 sec
    > 0-60 with a V-6 FWD Fusion. The V-6 FWD Camry tested by CR did a 7.1
    > sec 0-60. C&D's V-6 Camry did a 7.5 sec 0-60. The 4 cylinder Camry
    > tested by CR managed a 9.6 sec 0-60. So if the 4 cylinder Camry is
    > good, I suppose any Fusion is good too. As far as fuel economy, here
    > are the CR averages -
    >
    > vehicle / overall / city / highway / 150 mile trip
    > Camry 4 / 24 / 16 / 36 / 29
    > Camry V6 / 23 / 16 / 36 / 29 (seems unbelievable compared to the 4)
    > Fusion 4 / 23 / 15 / 32 / 27
    > Fusion V-6 AWD / 20 / 14 / 29 / 25
    >
    > The AWD Fusion suffers in both fuel economy and performace relative to
    > the 2WD version, but then again, I like the idea of AWD - which is why
    > I bought one. I am doing considerably better than 20 around town, but
    > not nearly 29 on the highway (but then my only highway trip was down
    > I-95 with speeds over 75 mph). Overall I am averaging about 23 mph.
    >
    > I think about the best you can say is that the FWD Fusion has
    > equivalent to slightly better performance than the Camry, and
    > equivalent to slightly worse fuel economy. If you get an AWD Fusion,
    > you are porbably going to suffer with slightly worse performance and
    > fuel economy than the FWD version.
    >
    > BTW, you can buy an equivalent Camry (no AWD available), but even with
    > the AWD I figure I would have paid at least $4000 more for an
    > equivalent Camry. That will buy a lot of gas.
    >
    > Ed


    Which transmission did the 4 cyl have? Mike is saying that people are buying
    4-cyl Camries instead of V6 Fusions. I think the acceleration for this is
    about 8.5 sec to go from 0 to 60 mph.

    Jeff


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    Jeff
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    "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    news:09idnTQn5ZLvIHHYnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@ptd.net...
    > Forget published 0 to 60 'test,' go drive both on the road a see for
    > yourself. The difference is torque, and at the RPM at which it occurs.
    > When you get to a grade, that difference become apparent.as to which
    > performs better in the road. The more expensive 4cy Camry needs to run
    > two gears down, from that of the Fusion, to maintain the same speed. If
    > the grade is great enough the Camry can not even maintain speed. You
    > don't get your best fuel mileage if you can't run in top gear more often.
    > Top gear, is double OD on the V6 Fusion, as well
    >
    >
    >
    > mike
    >
    >
    > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
    > news:x32Hh.1759$3i.1726@trnddc01...
    >>
    >> "Ed White" <ce.white3@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1173133956.841930.98500@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
    >>> On Mar 5, 4:51 pm, Andrew Rossmann
    >>> <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>> In article <kv%Gh.1745$3i.1006@trnddc01>, n...@googlemail.com says...
    >>>>
    >>>> > What is the difference in performance between the Toyota 4-cyl and
    >>>> > Ford
    >>>> > Fusion, like acceleration? Fuel economy?
    >>>>
    >>>> > The specs I saw has my 10-year old Contour (0 - 60 in 7.1 sec) faster
    >>>> > than
    >>>> > the Ford Fusion (7.5 sec) even though my engine only makes about 170
    >>>> > HP and
    >>>> > 170 lb-ft of torque, while the Fusion is over 200 in both. It seems
    >>>> > that the
    >>>> > Fusion's performance is not all that great, considering the amount of
    >>>> > power.

    > .
    >>>
    >>> Consumer Reports measured the 0-60 for a Fusion SEL AWD 3.0L V-6 as
    >>> 8.0 sec. The 4 cylinder manual FWD was 9.5 sec. Interestingly Car and
    >>> Driver did a 8.1 sec 0-60 in a four cylinder Fusion and did a 7.4 sec
    >>> 0-60 with a V-6 FWD Fusion. The V-6 FWD Camry tested by CR did a 7.1
    >>> sec 0-60. C&D's V-6 Camry did a 7.5 sec 0-60. The 4 cylinder Camry
    >>> tested by CR managed a 9.6 sec 0-60. So if the 4 cylinder Camry is
    >>> good, I suppose any Fusion is good too. As far as fuel economy, here
    >>> are the CR averages -
    >>>
    >>> vehicle / overall / city / highway / 150 mile trip
    >>> Camry 4 / 24 / 16 / 36 / 29
    >>> Camry V6 / 23 / 16 / 36 / 29 (seems unbelievable compared to the 4)
    >>> Fusion 4 / 23 / 15 / 32 / 27
    >>> Fusion V-6 AWD / 20 / 14 / 29 / 25
    >>>
    >>> The AWD Fusion suffers in both fuel economy and performace relative to
    >>> the 2WD version, but then again, I like the idea of AWD - which is why
    >>> I bought one. I am doing considerably better than 20 around town, but
    >>> not nearly 29 on the highway (but then my only highway trip was down
    >>> I-95 with speeds over 75 mph). Overall I am averaging about 23 mph.
    >>>
    >>> I think about the best you can say is that the FWD Fusion has
    >>> equivalent to slightly better performance than the Camry, and
    >>> equivalent to slightly worse fuel economy. If you get an AWD Fusion,
    >>> you are porbably going to suffer with slightly worse performance and
    >>> fuel economy than the FWD version.
    >>>
    >>> BTW, you can't buy an equivalent Camry (no AWD available), but even with
    >>> the AWD I figure I would have paid at least $4000 more for an
    >>> equivalent Camry. That will buy a lot of gas.
    >>>
    >>> Ed

    >>
    >> Which transmission did the 4 cyl have? Mike is saying that people are
    >> buying 4-cyl Camries instead of V6 Fusions. I think the acceleration for
    >> this is about 8.5 sec to go from 0 to 60 mph.
    >>
    >> Jeff


    You don't get better fuel mileage with a lower gear, but you get better fuel
    mileage with a 4-cyl Camry than a V6 Fusion. There are trade-offs between
    fuel mileage and performance. More people appear to be choosing the better
    fuel mileage of the Camry.

    Jeff


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    El Bandito
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    Mike Hunter wrote:
    > That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however, when
    > one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
    > Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.


    What is it with Ford front grilles anyways?

    Fusion, Edge, many more, they all have those fake chrome grilles that
    add nothing to the car's look (it looks like cheap bling-bling you would
    see on a Pimped Civic)

    Chrome is good, when it's tasteful. But it seems they overdesigned those
    parts...

    Just wondering...

    --
    Don't drink water, fish have sex in it!

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    C. E. White
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    "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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    > Which transmission did the 4 cyl have? Mike is saying that people
    > are buying 4-cyl Camries instead of V6 Fusions. I think the
    > acceleration for this is about 8.5 sec to go from 0 to 60 mph.


    The Consumer Reports 4 cylinder Camry had an automatic (9.6 sec 0-60).
    The Car and Drive 4 cylinder Fusion was a manual (8.1 sec 0-60).
    Consumer Reports tested a 4 cylinder automatic Milan (0-60 9.5 sec)
    and a V-6 automatic Fusion AWD (0-60 8.0 sec).

    Here is a shocker - CR gave the 4 cylinder Camry an "average" rating
    for reliability and as a new or used car. The V-6 Camry got an above
    average rating as both a new and used car. The Fusion got a much
    better than average rating as a new or used car. Too bad most Camry
    buyers will never know they are buying a car that even CR is rating
    second best compared to a Fusion.

    I think Mike is right if he is claiming that the majority of Camrys
    sold include the 4 cylinder engine. I've read that 85% of Camry are
    sold with a four cylinder engine. Ford is expecting closer to a 50/50
    mix (at least according to the ordering guide). It looks like Ford
    expects less than 10% of Fusion will have the manual transmission.

    Ed



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    Jeff
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    "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:45ed639e$1@kcnews01...
    >
    > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
    > news:x32Hh.1759$3i.1726@trnddc01...
    >
    >> Which transmission did the 4 cyl have? Mike is saying that people are
    >> buying 4-cyl Camries instead of V6 Fusions. I think the acceleration for
    >> this is about 8.5 sec to go from 0 to 60 mph.

    >
    > The Consumer Reports 4 cylinder Camry had an automatic (9.6 sec 0-60). The
    > Car and Drive 4 cylinder Fusion was a manual (8.1 sec 0-60). Consumer
    > Reports tested a 4 cylinder automatic Milan (0-60 9.5 sec) and a V-6
    > automatic Fusion AWD (0-60 8.0 sec).
    >
    > Here is a shocker - CR gave the 4 cylinder Camry an "average" rating for
    > reliability and as a new or used car. The V-6 Camry got an above average
    > rating as both a new and used car. The Fusion got a much better than
    > average rating as a new or used car. Too bad most Camry buyers will never
    > know they are buying a car that even CR is rating second best compared to
    > a Fusion.
    >
    > I think Mike is right if he is claiming that the majority of Camrys sold
    > include the 4 cylinder engine. I've read that 85% of Camry are sold with a
    > four cylinder engine. Ford is expecting closer to a 50/50 mix (at least
    > according to the ordering guide). It looks like Ford expects less than 10%
    > of Fusion will have the manual transmission.
    >
    > Ed


    Camries are also sold with mostly manual transmissions. This gives them a
    better overall performance for some, when they balance fuel economy and
    power, because the power actually getting to the wheels is similar for both
    the 4-cyl Camry and the V6 Fusion, as seen by similar acceleration numbers.
    Of course, they can get similar performance with a 4-cyl standard
    transmission, Fusion too.

    Do you know on what basis the Camry was rated lower than the Fusion?

    Jeff


  10. #10
    Mike Hunter
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    When Ford first introduce the Taurus, sans grill, the Ford haters
    complained. Now that Ford has resurrected the 'grill,' Ford haters complain
    again. LOL

    mike


    "El Bandito" <abuseur@videotron.ca> wrote in message
    news:1l5Hh.26873$pi6.307875@weber.videotron.net...
    > Mike Hunter wrote:
    >> That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however,
    >> when one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
    >> Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.

    >
    > What is it with Ford front grilles anyways?
    >
    > Fusion, Edge, many more, they all have those fake chrome grilles that add
    > nothing to the car's look (it looks like cheap bling-bling you would see
    > on a Pimped Civic)
    >
    > Chrome is good, when it's tasteful. But it seems they overdesigned those
    > parts...
    >
    > Just wondering...
    >
    > --
    > Don't drink water, fish have sex in it!




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