I'm starting to feel "dated".

Main tire brands used to be;
Goodyear, Firestone, Kelly, Goodrich, Michelin.
Pickin's were fairly easy.

Recently, I went to the tire place with a neighbor
who was buying a set of tires;

Yokohama ? Coronado ? Bridgestone, etc. etc.

Any of the newer labels give good value for the money ?
Any to avoid ?

<rj>

Bridgestone has been around as long as I can remember and that's a long
time.

I think they are part of Firestone.

"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:avuec29purej3h6a55sagvt3a3etthndn0@4ax.com...
> I'm starting to feel "dated".
>
> Main tire brands used to be;
> Goodyear, Firestone, Kelly, Goodrich, Michelin.
> Pickin's were fairly easy.
>
> Recently, I went to the tire place with a neighbor
> who was buying a set of tires;
>
> Yokohama ? Coronado ? Bridgestone, etc. etc.
>
> Any of the newer labels give good value for the money ?
> Any to avoid ?
>
> <rj>

Tim,

You are correct: Bridgestone is owned by Firestone. Goodyear owns
Kelly and Dunlop and I believe Cooper.

RJ, there is not enough money on the Earth to EVER get me to buy
anything Firestone makes! Read up on the fiascos with the 721s, the
Firestone 500s and the SUV tires that Ford had problems with just a
couple of years ago. Bridgestone, like Dunlop, is an old UK company
bought out by the Americans. Last vehicle I had Bridgestones on was a
motorcycle in the '70s. My advise on them would be "consider the
parent" and avoid them.

I'm not that fond of Goodyear either: my last 2 cars had Goodyears
from the factory and they sucked (tread wearout way too soon and tread
seperation problems on the set on my Regal).

Michelins are good tires - not cheap but wear like cast iron. I've
had good luck with both Yokohama and Toyo tires - excellent tires: as
good as the Michelins but a lot less $$ for an equivalent tire.

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA.


"Tim" <T&L@askme.net> wrote:

>Bridgestone has been around as long as I can remember and that's a long
>time.
>
>I think they are part of Firestone.
>
>"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
>news:avuec29purej3h6a55sagvt3a3etthndn0@4ax.com.. .
>> I'm starting to feel "dated".
>>
>> Main tire brands used to be;
>> Goodyear, Firestone, Kelly, Goodrich, Michelin.
>> Pickin's were fairly easy.
>>
>> Recently, I went to the tire place with a neighbor
>> who was buying a set of tires;
>>
>> Yokohama ? Coronado ? Bridgestone, etc. etc.
>>
>> Any of the newer labels give good value for the money ?
>> Any to avoid ?
>>
>> <rj>
>

Bridgestone is the Japanese company that bought Firestone, then screwed up
the tires they made for the Explorer. Nearly put Firestone.out of business
and led to the mistaken idea the SUVs were more prone to rollover than other
vehicles.


mike hunt


"Tim" <T&L@askme.net> wrote in message
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> Bridgestone has been around as long as I can remember and that's a long
> time.
>
> I think they are part of Firestone.
>
> "<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
> news:avuec29purej3h6a55sagvt3a3etthndn0@4ax.com...
>> I'm starting to feel "dated".
>>
>> Main tire brands used to be;
>> Goodyear, Firestone, Kelly, Goodrich, Michelin.
>> Pickin's were fairly easy.
>>
>> Recently, I went to the tire place with a neighbor
>> who was buying a set of tires;
>>
>> Yokohama ? Coronado ? Bridgestone, etc. etc.
>>
>> Any of the newer labels give good value for the money ?
>> Any to avoid ?
>>
>> <rj>
>
>

check out tire rack I some people I know have had good luck getting tires
from them.


"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:avuec29purej3h6a55sagvt3a3etthndn0@4ax.com...
> I'm starting to feel "dated".
>
> Main tire brands used to be;
> Goodyear, Firestone, Kelly, Goodrich, Michelin.
> Pickin's were fairly easy.
>
> Recently, I went to the tire place with a neighbor
> who was buying a set of tires;
>
> Yokohama ? Coronado ? Bridgestone, etc. etc.
>
> Any of the newer labels give good value for the money ?
> Any to avoid ?
>
> <rj>

"William H. Bowen" <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1sqfc2t8hokuj7a747frioj5ji90nuvft3@4ax.com...
> Tim,
>
> . Goodyear owns
> Kelly and Dunlop and I believe Cooper.
>
>
Not Cooper
Cooper Tire & Rubber Company is a global company that specializes in the
design,

manufacture, marketing and sales of passenger car, light truck, medium truck
tires and

subsidiaries that specialize in motorcycle and racing tires, as well as
tread rubber and

related equipment for the retread industry. With headquarters in Findlay,
Ohio, Cooper

Tire has 60 manufacturing, sales, distribution, technical and design
facilities within its

family of companies located around the world. For more information, visit
Cooper Tire's

web site at: www.coopertire.com.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:

>
>"William H. Bowen" <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:1sqfc2t8hokuj7a747frioj5ji90nuvft3@4ax.com.. .
>> Tim,
>>
>> . Goodyear owns
>> Kelly and Dunlop and I believe Cooper.
>>
>>
>Not Cooper
>Cooper Tire & Rubber Company is a global company that specializes in the
>design,
>
>manufacture, marketing and sales of passenger car, light truck, medium truck
>tires and
>
>subsidiaries that specialize in motorcycle and racing tires, as well as
>tread rubber and
>
>related equipment for the retread industry. With headquarters in Findlay,
>Ohio, Cooper
>
>Tire has 60 manufacturing, sales, distribution, technical and design
>facilities within its
>
>family of companies located around the world. For more information, visit
>Cooper Tire's
>
>web site at: www.coopertire.com.

Edwin,

I stand corrected - maybe I'll check out Cooper for tires on the
Regal. I had one set of their tires back in the 70s on an AMC Matador
and there where OK.

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

"William H. Bowen" <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:0urgc2thce9ol0kvuo31u38jsdhq3hvbqc@4ax.com...

>
> I stand corrected - maybe I'll check out Cooper for tires on the
> Regal. I had one set of their tires back in the 70s on an AMC Matador
> and there where OK.
>

At the risk of public humiliation - check out Pep Boys tires then. They are
manufactured by Cooper and I believe (though I could not prove), they are
pretty much just a Cooper tire with a different logo raised on the side
wall.

I have had Futuras on different vehicles in the past and have found nothing
wrong with them. For me, snow traction is a very big concern given the
amount of snow we get each winter. They have performed admirably there.
I've even had them on my plow truck. Mileage seems to be well within the
range of "normal" (whatever that is). All I can really say about mileage is
that I've gotten every bit of the rated mileage and usually more out of a
set of Futuras. Wet road traction has always been as good as snow traction
as well. I've never found them to break belts like Goodyears do, and they
ride quite smoothly and quiet.

All in all I'd put them squarely in the category of a pretty good tire. The
price is such that even if my experiences were in the realm of anomaly, and
you only got 80% of the performance of a brand name tire, you'd still come
out on the winning side of the equation. I've never had a failure with one
so I don't even consider the likelihood of a blow out or other catastrophic
failure any more than I would with another brand.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
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> I'm starting to feel "dated".
>
> Main tire brands used to be;
> Goodyear, Firestone, Kelly, Goodrich, Michelin.
> Pickin's were fairly easy.
>
> Recently, I went to the tire place with a neighbor
> who was buying a set of tires;
>
> Yokohama ? Coronado ? Bridgestone, etc. etc.
>
> Any of the newer labels give good value for the money ?
> Any to avoid ?

Tirerack.com is a good place to get some reviews.

Recently I needed new tires on the Buick, and did a bit of research. The
Michelins we had on
that car disappointed me. Only got 40,000 miles on them, and they became
noisy a good while
ago. (I have been a Michelin user for years, and this is the first set that
has behaved this way)

On Tire Rack, I found that one type of Michelin that was available here
locally was panned
badly. Got a four out of ten as far as 'would you buy again'.

All the tires, makes and models, have supporters and opponents. A lot of
the positive reviews
come from people who only have a couple thousand miles on the tires.

Finally, I bit the bullet and bought Cooper. They feel very good, are a
little noisier than new
Michelins, have a 70,000 treadlife expectation, and were $15-20 each cheaper
than the Michelin.

So far, so good.

In the very distant past, I have bought Firestone (rather poor results), BF
Goodrich (ditto), Goodyear
(not too bad, except for the Eagles which were crappo), General (like tissue
paper), Kelly Springfield
(actually under Discount Tire label, these were pretty good.)

In article <1sqfc2t8hokuj7a747frioj5ji90nuvft3@4ax.com>,
William H. Bowen <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Michelins are good tires - not cheap but wear like cast iron.
I agree. The only tire I'll have on my car, since '78.
Not only wear very well, but are very safe.