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    John Horner
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    Default Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?

    My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:

    1) Toyota
    2) Honda
    3) Hyundai
    4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)



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    Mike Hunter
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    Did you forget the "Cherry" will be here by 2008 LOL

    mike hunt


    "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    > My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    >
    > 1) Toyota
    > 2) Honda
    > 3) Hyundai
    > 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)




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    Reasoned Insanity
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    "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    > My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    >
    > 1) Toyota
    > 2) Honda
    > 3) Hyundai
    > 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)




    Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece
    of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.



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    Mike Hunter
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    Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of
    initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners.


    mike


    "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    >>
    >> 1) Toyota
    >> 2) Honda
    >> 3) Hyundai
    >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)

    >
    >
    >
    > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece
    > of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.
    >




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    Reasoned Insanity
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    "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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    > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03...
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    >> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    >>> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    >>>
    >>> 1) Toyota
    >>> 2) Honda
    >>> 3) Hyundai
    >>> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a
    >> piece of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.
    >>

    >
    >> Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey
    >> of

    > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners.
    >
    >
    > mike



    Oh, I haven't looked at anything new. I only buy what I can pay cash for.



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    dbu.
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    In article <SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
    "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:

    > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of
    > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners.
    >
    >
    > mike


    They also manufacture large cranes. Toyota is into forklifts. Honda
    makes lawnmowers. I read recently where Honda is going to begin
    building aircraft for small business. All three are surely making
    their mark.




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    > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03...
    > >
    > > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    > >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    > >>
    > >> 1) Toyota
    > >> 2) Honda
    > >> 3) Hyundai
    > >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece
    > > of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.
    > >

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    On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:43:19 -0500, "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    >>
    >> 1) Toyota
    >> 2) Honda
    >> 3) Hyundai
    >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)

    >
    >
    >
    >Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece
    >of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.
    >

    And yet that P.O.S. is able to offer a 100,000 mile warranty.

    GM is still 3year/36,000 ( maybe they know something )

    <rj>

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    Edwin Pawlowski
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    "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >
    > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece
    > of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.


    I'm not ready to buy one but they have come a long way in the past few
    years.



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    Bob Palmer
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    "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
    > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of
    > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners.
    >
    >
    > mike


    My company has had 2 new Hyundais in the past year and I find that hard to
    believe. The initial quality to me was above the "Big" 3 but well behind
    Toyota and Honda. The Santa Fe and the Elantra we have, have many many small
    but annoying problems within the first 5000 miles.



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    JohnR66
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    "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03...
    >
    > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05...
    >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings:
    >>
    >> 1) Toyota
    >> 2) Honda
    >> 3) Hyundai
    >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company)

    >
    >
    >
    > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece
    > of shit compared to anything Japaneese or American.
    >

    Hundai is a heck of a success story. Near death after selling a bunch of
    crappy cars, they turned things completely around in recent years.

    Don't give up on Ford or GM they can make a comeback.

    IMHO, their fist big step is making cars that appeal to younger people. All
    the teens want Hondas and Toyotas and probably continue buying them as they
    age. I've worked for the same emplyer for 17 years and know many people
    well. If they're not driving a Ford or GM truck, then it is a Toyota, Honda
    or Mazda. Many of the US passenger cars are older models. One minor trend is
    a couple of new Ford Fusions out in the lot.

    I find myself wanting a Toyota Yaris liftback. I find myself needing
    something with better mileage for daily driving (I need to keep the truck
    for hauling for my side business). Once I again, the American Automakers are
    asleep at the wheel. They don't produce anything that compares to the
    Yaris/Fit/Scion. Yes GM has the Aveo, but what's with the crappy fuel
    mileage? I looked at the Focus, but the design looks tired and boring after
    nearly 7 years.

    Next there's the Ranger compact truck. A decent, reliable vehicle that
    actually has some Japanese hardware in it, but Ford won't redesign years
    after it should have been and the "middle" engine is the anemic 3.0L V6 that
    gets SUV like gas milege and has less HP than many 4 bangers (like GMs new
    model). The 4L V6 is better after they gave it some more power a few years
    ago, but the full size truck mileage mumbers stink.

    Next there's GM that dumps the compact truck and intruduces a redesigned
    "midsized" pickup in the midst of higher gas prices. Fuel economy could be a
    bit better and it still gets the solid black dot treatment with CRs
    reliability score - just like the crappy S10 it replaced.

    Pontiac. Lets build cars that all the models look the same! Let's make the
    GTO a family appeal car. RIP new GTO. Sheesh.

    Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the marketplace
    and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
    John



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