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    Guido
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    Default 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???

    Hi,

    1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.

    Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????

    I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.

    Thanks !!!




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    N8N
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???


    Guido wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > 1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.
    >
    > Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????
    >
    > I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.
    >
    > Thanks !!!


    It's hard to go wrong with Bilsteins, but you will pay for them.

    nate


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    Guido
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    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???

    THanks, but it looks like they don't make them for a 1997 LeSabre.

    http://www.bilstein.com/302passengercars.pdf



    "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1154654497.393265.250890@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
    >
    > Guido wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> 1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.
    >>
    >> Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????
    >>
    >> I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.
    >>
    >> Thanks !!!

    >
    > It's hard to go wrong with Bilsteins, but you will pay for them.
    >
    > nate
    >




  4. #4
    N8N
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???

    Hmmm... my second choice would be Koni but I don't see them having a
    listing for your car either. I guess the typical LeSabre buyer doesn't
    care much about crisp handling. (not a knock at you personally,
    but...)

    I am running cheap Gabriels on my old Studebaker and they are OK but
    don't really blow me away. I've had bad experiences with KYB FWIW.

    nate

    Guido wrote:
    > THanks, but it looks like they don't make them for a 1997 LeSabre.
    >
    > http://www.bilstein.com/302passengercars.pdf
    >
    >
    >
    > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1154654497.393265.250890@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
    > >
    > > Guido wrote:
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> 1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.
    > >>
    > >> Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????
    > >>
    > >> I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.
    > >>
    > >> Thanks !!!

    > >
    > > It's hard to go wrong with Bilsteins, but you will pay for them.
    > >
    > > nate
    > >



  5. #5
    Rob
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???

    N8N wrote:
    > Guido wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> 1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.
    >>
    >> Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????
    >>
    >> I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.
    >>
    >> Thanks !!!

    >
    > It's hard to go wrong with Bilsteins, but you will pay for them.
    >
    > nate
    >



    I replaced all 4 OE "Dyna Ride" struts with "Monroe-Matic Plus" struts
    by Monroe. Did not change the springs. Made a huge difference. Car
    still has a decent ride, but the heaving, wallowing, and bottoming - all
    the unnecessary wheel movement - are all gone. No need to spend big
    bucks on that "go fast" crap. A '97 LeSabre is about as far away from
    sporty as you can get, and a set of Konis or Bilsteins is about as
    useful as socks on a rooster. Save your money and disregard all the
    foolish blather you hear about so-called premium brands. "Everybody
    knows" that American stuff is crap, the expensive imported stuff is
    absolutely essential, blah, blah, blah. B.S.! A set of Monroe struts
    will make your Buick ride comfortably and handle securely, exactly like
    a big, comfortable American sedan ought to have from the factory. It
    won't be a Ferrari, but if you imagine that ANY aftermarket product can
    turn a Buick LeSabre into a ride that will satisfy your secret daydreams
    of being a boy racer, well ... seek counseling.

  6. #6
    N8N
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???


    Rob wrote:
    > N8N wrote:
    > > Guido wrote:
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> 1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.
    > >>
    > >> Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????
    > >>
    > >> I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.
    > >>
    > >> Thanks !!!

    > >
    > > It's hard to go wrong with Bilsteins, but you will pay for them.
    > >
    > > nate
    > >

    >
    >
    > I replaced all 4 OE "Dyna Ride" struts with "Monroe-Matic Plus" struts
    > by Monroe. Did not change the springs. Made a huge difference. Car
    > still has a decent ride, but the heaving, wallowing, and bottoming - all
    > the unnecessary wheel movement - are all gone. No need to spend big
    > bucks on that "go fast" crap. A '97 LeSabre is about as far away from
    > sporty as you can get, and a set of Konis or Bilsteins is about as
    > useful as socks on a rooster. Save your money and disregard all the
    > foolish blather you hear about so-called premium brands. "Everybody
    > knows" that American stuff is crap, the expensive imported stuff is
    > absolutely essential, blah, blah, blah. B.S.! A set of Monroe struts
    > will make your Buick ride comfortably and handle securely, exactly like
    > a big, comfortable American sedan ought to have from the factory. It
    > won't be a Ferrari, but if you imagine that ANY aftermarket product can
    > turn a Buick LeSabre into a ride that will satisfy your secret daydreams
    > of being a boy racer, well ... seek counseling.


    I've never tried Monroes, but I have heard that Gabriels are infinitely
    preferable in terms of durability from several usually reliable
    sources. The price is about the same so I've never had any reason to
    try the Monroes.

    That said, I did get a bad out of the box Gabriel shock for my '55
    Stude, but i have to give them props for still making them (although a
    70's Camaro shock can easily be modded to fit a later Stude.) AutoZone
    promptly exchanged the pair however so no harm no foul.

    nate


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    Guido
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???

    PUT DOWN the PIPE !!!

    Where in "I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride"
    do you see "secret daydreams
    of being a boy racer" ???

    YOU should take a reading comprehension course or see a shrink yourself.





    "Rob" <rdg@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    news:4OSdnTjEdcwTN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
    > N8N wrote:
    >> Guido wrote:
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> 1997 LeSaber with 70,000 miles wallows over dips in road and on turns.
    >>>
    >>> Any suggestions for tires, shocks, maybe springs ????
    >>>
    >>> I'm looking for a "touring" or firm ride, not the "soft" ride.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks !!!

    >>
    >> It's hard to go wrong with Bilsteins, but you will pay for them.
    >>
    >> nate
    >>

    >
    >
    > I replaced all 4 OE "Dyna Ride" struts with "Monroe-Matic Plus" struts by
    > Monroe. Did not change the springs. Made a huge difference. Car still
    > has a decent ride, but the heaving, wallowing, and bottoming - all the
    > unnecessary wheel movement - are all gone. No need to spend big bucks on
    > that "go fast" crap. A '97 LeSabre is about as far away from sporty as
    > you can get, and a set of Konis or Bilsteins is about as useful as socks
    > on a rooster. Save your money and disregard all the foolish blather you
    > hear about so-called premium brands. "Everybody knows" that American
    > stuff is crap, the expensive imported stuff is absolutely essential, blah,
    > blah, blah. B.S.! A set of Monroe struts will make your Buick ride
    > comfortably and handle securely, exactly like a big, comfortable American
    > sedan ought to have from the factory. It won't be a Ferrari, but if you
    > imagine that ANY aftermarket product can turn a Buick LeSabre into a ride
    > that will satisfy your secret daydreams of being a boy racer, well ...
    > seek counseling.




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    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???


    "Guido" <Wild@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bAxAg.2189$9T3.1329@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
    > THanks, but it looks like they don't make them for a 1997 LeSabre.
    >
    > http://www.bilstein.com/302passengercars.pdf


    Maybe you should check a little further before you give up. I ordered some
    struts for a car I was
    told was a 92 Buick LeSabre, and they didnt fit. Supplier said something
    like 'that model fits all
    from 91 forward'. (Turns out when I checked the VIN the car was actually a
    1990)

    Bilstein shows a strut for the 1996, and it may or should be the same for
    the 1997.

    I checked out the cartridge offerings at Napaonline, and they seem to show
    the same cartridges
    fitting, at least for the fronts.

    Maybe the Bilstein list you have is not up to date.



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    Mike Marlow
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???


    "Rob" <rdg@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    news:4OSdnTjEdcwTN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...

    >
    > I replaced all 4 OE "Dyna Ride" struts with "Monroe-Matic Plus" struts
    > by Monroe. Did not change the springs. Made a huge difference. Car
    > still has a decent ride, but the heaving, wallowing, and bottoming - all
    > the unnecessary wheel movement - are all gone. No need to spend big
    > bucks on that "go fast" crap. A '97 LeSabre is about as far away from
    > sporty as you can get, and a set of Konis or Bilsteins is about as
    > useful as socks on a rooster. Save your money and disregard all the
    > foolish blather you hear about so-called premium brands. "Everybody
    > knows" that American stuff is crap, the expensive imported stuff is
    > absolutely essential, blah, blah, blah. B.S.! A set of Monroe struts
    > will make your Buick ride comfortably and handle securely, exactly like
    > a big, comfortable American sedan ought to have from the factory. It
    > won't be a Ferrari, but if you imagine that ANY aftermarket product can
    > turn a Buick LeSabre into a ride that will satisfy your secret daydreams
    > of being a boy racer, well ... seek counseling.


    I don't know how many miles you have on your Monroe-Matics Rob, but don't be
    surprised if they don't give anywhere near the performance of the factory
    shock. By that I mean that they wear out much sooner. Monroe is a low end
    shock. It's not about racing performance, import labels or any of that
    stuff.

    Of course they made a big difference on your car. You replaced a totally
    worn out set of shocks with something new. Out of the box, anything should
    be an improvement over what you had. Don't be surprised if they don't hold
    up though.

    --

    -Mike-
    mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



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    N8N
    Guest

    Default Re: 1997 LeSabre - shocks, tires, maybe springs ???


    Mike Marlow wrote:
    > "Rob" <rdg@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    > news:4OSdnTjEdcwTN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
    >
    > >
    > > I replaced all 4 OE "Dyna Ride" struts with "Monroe-Matic Plus" struts
    > > by Monroe. Did not change the springs. Made a huge difference. Car
    > > still has a decent ride, but the heaving, wallowing, and bottoming - all
    > > the unnecessary wheel movement - are all gone. No need to spend big
    > > bucks on that "go fast" crap. A '97 LeSabre is about as far away from
    > > sporty as you can get, and a set of Konis or Bilsteins is about as
    > > useful as socks on a rooster. Save your money and disregard all the
    > > foolish blather you hear about so-called premium brands. "Everybody
    > > knows" that American stuff is crap, the expensive imported stuff is
    > > absolutely essential, blah, blah, blah. B.S.! A set of Monroe struts
    > > will make your Buick ride comfortably and handle securely, exactly like
    > > a big, comfortable American sedan ought to have from the factory. It
    > > won't be a Ferrari, but if you imagine that ANY aftermarket product can
    > > turn a Buick LeSabre into a ride that will satisfy your secret daydreams
    > > of being a boy racer, well ... seek counseling.

    >
    > I don't know how many miles you have on your Monroe-Matics Rob, but don't be
    > surprised if they don't give anywhere near the performance of the factory
    > shock. By that I mean that they wear out much sooner. Monroe is a low end
    > shock. It's not about racing performance, import labels or any of that
    > stuff.
    >
    > Of course they made a big difference on your car. You replaced a totally
    > worn out set of shocks with something new. Out of the box, anything should
    > be an improvement over what you had. Don't be surprised if they don't hold
    > up though.
    >


    Indeed, this is the reason I recommended Bilsteins in my first post.
    Yes, they are a performance oriented shock and will give a taut ride,
    but I'm running them on my old daily driver Porsche not because I
    autocross on weekends (although if I ever have time, I might enjoy
    that) but because the KYB's that the previous owner installed turned to
    garbage (were rattling and clunking; I actually took the car to a shop
    because I had visions of bad trailing arm bushings or similar) after
    only 20K miles and I just would rather drive than work on my car.
    Admittedly, it's only been in the past couple years that I have had the
    money to afford to buy the "best" parts for my cars, but by all
    accounts Bilsteins are a near-lifetime investment, and if you like the
    ride they give, are well worth it. FWIW I have not given a moment's
    thought to the shocks on the P-car since I had the Bilsteins put on a
    couple years ago.

    I believe GM is installing Bilsteins on some of their pickup trucks,
    that's about as far from a "boy-racer" vehicle as I can imagine.

    nate


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