Buick Lucerne can earn its own reputation
Not since the Grand National faded into oblivion at the end of 1987,
has Buick offered anything even bordering on a performance-oriented
car. Ending a 10-year V-8 drought for Buick, the Lucerne is a step in
that direction.
at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...4657-1818r.htm

Edmunds.com seems to offer a different opinion.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...ticleId=109862



"Mike" <yard22192@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Buick Lucerne can earn its own reputation
> Not since the Grand National faded into oblivion at the end of 1987,
> has Buick offered anything even bordering on a performance-oriented
> car. Ending a 10-year V-8 drought for Buick, the Lucerne is a step in
> that direction.
> at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...4657-1818r.htm
>

Edmunds.com is about as useful for reviews as a Sears catalog. Out of all
the domestic cars I have looked up on there, they gave most of them shit
reports. Hell, a lot of them have great reviews from *owners* yet terrible
ones from Edmunds. Even the owners that rated the Lucerne at Edmunds gave it
an average of 9.3 out of 10, yet, it's still crap to Edmunds.
Sorry, but no one can tell anyone what to buy. A car *I* may find
astounding, someone else may find terrible. And Edmunds bitching about the
seat warmers? Give me a break. What do they want? It warms your ass, which
means folks, that yes, it has to get warm.


"Steve Bushakus" <Steve@SNL.com> wrote in message
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> Edmunds.com seems to offer a different opinion.
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...ticleId=109862
>
>
>
> "Mike" <yard22192@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154917741.524840.41190@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> Buick Lucerne can earn its own reputation
>> Not since the Grand National faded into oblivion at the end of 1987,
>> has Buick offered anything even bordering on a performance-oriented
>> car. Ending a 10-year V-8 drought for Buick, the Lucerne is a step in
>> that direction.
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...4657-1818r.htm
>>
>
>

"80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEMEPLEASE@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Edmunds.com is about as useful for reviews as a Sears catalog. Out of all
> the domestic cars I have looked up on there, they gave most of them shit
> reports. Hell, a lot of them have great reviews from *owners* yet terrible
> ones from Edmunds. Even the owners that rated the Lucerne at Edmunds gave
> it an average of 9.3 out of 10, yet, it's still crap to Edmunds.
> Sorry, but no one can tell anyone what to buy. A car *I* may find
> astounding, someone else may find terrible. And Edmunds bitching about the
> seat warmers? Give me a break. What do they want? It warms your ass, which
> means folks, that yes, it has to get warm.

Ranks up with Car and Driver. If it does not handle like a Corvette or
Porsche or high end Mercedes, it is crap. I don't know about the Lucerne,
but my Le Sabre has two heat setting on the seat and neither burns your ass.
OTOH, the drivers side broke and they want $560 to repair it.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in
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>
> "80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEMEPLEASE@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:dMudndE5kZXMS0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> Edmunds.com is about as useful for reviews as a Sears catalog. Out of
>> all the domestic cars I have looked up on there, they gave most of
>> them shit reports. Hell, a lot of them have great reviews from
>> *owners* yet terrible ones from Edmunds. Even the owners that rated
>> the Lucerne at Edmunds gave it an average of 9.3 out of 10, yet, it's
>> still crap to Edmunds. Sorry, but no one can tell anyone what to buy.
>> A car *I* may find astounding, someone else may find terrible. And
>> Edmunds bitching about the seat warmers? Give me a break. What do
>> they want? It warms your ass, which means folks, that yes, it has to
>> get warm.
>
> Ranks up with Car and Driver. If it does not handle like a Corvette or
> Porsche or high end Mercedes, it is crap. I don't know about the
> Lucerne, but my Le Sabre has two heat setting on the seat and neither
> burns your ass. OTOH, the drivers side broke and they want $560 to
> repair it.
>
>
>

wow, $560. Maybe get a repair manual and fix it yourself. Unplug the
battery first. Might be a broken wire somewhere (probably closer to the
seat than the fuse box/relays). Or perhaps the warming elements might
need to be changed (but I doubt that). Or there might be some
thermostat type thingy that's bad.

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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEMEPLEASE@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:dMudndE5kZXMS0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> Edmunds.com is about as useful for reviews as a Sears catalog. Out of all
>> the domestic cars I have looked up on there, they gave most of them shit
>> reports. Hell, a lot of them have great reviews from *owners* yet
>> terrible ones from Edmunds. Even the owners that rated the Lucerne at
>> Edmunds gave it an average of 9.3 out of 10, yet, it's still crap to
>> Edmunds.
>> Sorry, but no one can tell anyone what to buy. A car *I* may find
>> astounding, someone else may find terrible. And Edmunds bitching about
>> the seat warmers? Give me a break. What do they want? It warms your ass,
>> which means folks, that yes, it has to get warm.
>
> Ranks up with Car and Driver. If it does not handle like a Corvette or
> Porsche or high end Mercedes, it is crap.

Exactly.

> I don't know about the Lucerne, but my Le Sabre has two heat setting on
> the seat and neither burns your ass.

I borrowed a loaded Montana off a friend once, and it had 2 settings for the
seat warmers in it as well. And it was a mini-van.

> OTOH, the drivers side broke and they want $560 to repair it.

Ouch. You should take Grappletech's advise and try and fix it yourself. May
take some time, but worth it if you can get it working again.

"grappletech" <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in message
> wow, $560. Maybe get a repair manual and fix it yourself. Unplug the
> battery first. Might be a broken wire somewhere (probably closer to the
> seat than the fuse box/relays). Or perhaps the warming elements might
> need to be changed (but I doubt that). Or there might be some
> thermostat type thingy that's bad.

You can't buy just the element, you replace the entire seat bottom. Does
that make sense? Yes, it is a broken wire as I've had a hot spot just
before it stopped working. Probably the same element as a $7 toaster in
WalMart. I got less than two winters out of it. Buick is working hard to get
me to buy an import.

<snip>

> I borrowed a loaded Montana off a friend once, and it had 2 settings for
> the seat warmers in it as well. And it was a mini-van.

<snip>

Lucerne has three settings each for cooling and heating.

"ACP" <noneone@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
>
> Lucerne has three settings each for cooling and heating.

Then anyone complaining about a hot ass is nuts. I recall Edmunds knocking
the older model (97 or so) Le Sabre because it had both a holder on the
cover for the gas cap and a lanyard attached to the cap. Now, if you have
to pick on that as a "problem" you want to make a car look like it has a lot
of negatives. Two years later, when the lanyard breaks, the other holder is
nice to have.

"ACP" <noneone@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>
>> I borrowed a loaded Montana off a friend once, and it had 2 settings for
>> the seat warmers in it as well. And it was a mini-van.
>
> <snip>
>
> Lucerne has three settings each for cooling and heating.

Apparently the testers at Edmunds didn't quite figure out how to use number
1 or 2. Does not surprise me though.