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  1. #1
    Brad
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    Default Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

    Hi,

    1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.

    Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    operate as "regular" brakes?

    Is it difficult to do?

    Thanks in advance, Brad

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    Edwin Pawlowski
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    "Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:44ddfa81.367503@news.bellatlantic.net...
    > Hi,
    >
    > 1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.
    >
    > Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    > operate as "regular" brakes?
    >
    > Is it difficult to do?


    I know it can be done, but I'm not sure exactly how.

    Just curious, why don't you want them? I live in a snow area and find them
    helpful at times.



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    Zteve20
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    Brad wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > 1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.
    >
    > Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    > operate as "regular" brakes?
    >
    > Is it difficult to do?
    >
    > Thanks in advance, Brad
    >
    > Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
    > be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.


    Brad..

    I have a 95 Lumina Mini Van. The ABS light came on about 5 years
    ago on my van, and ever since the ABS has never worked. (Im like you
    and HATE ABS) So I never got it fixed. However a guy told me at the
    local garage that the sending unit was screwed. So maybe if you
    disconnect the sending unit. Don't ask were it is, cause I have no
    idea LOL..
    Steve...


  4. #4
    Steve Mackie
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    Default Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

    > 1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.
    >
    > Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    > operate as "regular" brakes?
    >
    > Is it difficult to do?


    Check your local laws before doing this.

    Steve



  5. #5
    Jonathan
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    Default Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

    Greetings,

    The answer to both of your questions is "Yes". However, you need to check
    with your local laws and with your insurance company. Since ABS is a safety
    system it may be illegal to do so, and you also may be receiving a discount
    on your insurance because you have it that you may no longer be eligible for
    if you disable the system.

    And then of course there's the issue of liability on my part, especially
    since I am an advocate of ABS.

    Good luck - Jonathan
    "Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:44ddfa81.367503@news.bellatlantic.net...
    > Hi,
    >
    > 1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.
    >
    > Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    > operate as "regular" brakes?
    >
    > Is it difficult to do?
    >
    > Thanks in advance, Brad
    >
    > Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
    > be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
    >
    >
    >




  6. #6
    Brad
    Guest

    Default Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

    Hi Edwin,

    My mom (her car) is not having any problems with them at this time, but a
    friend of mine, who has them, said they are not good in Winter under slippery
    condition. He said, he pumps his brakes (when he begins to slide) which seems
    to bypass the ABS system.

    Brad


    On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:29:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:

    >
    >"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    >news:44ddfa81.367503@news.bellatlantic.net...
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> 1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.
    >>
    >> Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    >> operate as "regular" brakes?
    >>
    >> Is it difficult to do?

    >
    >I know it can be done, but I'm not sure exactly how.
    >
    >Just curious, why don't you want them? I live in a snow area and find them
    >helpful at times.
    >



  7. #7
    N8N
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    Default Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

    Never pump your brakes when driving a car with an ABS system, it will
    only confuse the ABS and possibly increase your stopping distance.

    nate


    Brad wrote:
    > Hi Edwin,
    >
    > My mom (her car) is not having any problems with them at this time, but a
    > friend of mine, who has them, said they are not good in Winter under slippery
    > condition. He said, he pumps his brakes (when he begins to slide) which seems
    > to bypass the ABS system.
    >
    > Brad
    >
    >
    > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:29:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    > >news:44ddfa81.367503@news.bellatlantic.net...
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> 1994 Chev. Lumina Sedan.
    > >>
    > >> Can the ABS brake system be defeated so the brakes
    > >> operate as "regular" brakes?
    > >>
    > >> Is it difficult to do?

    > >
    > >I know it can be done, but I'm not sure exactly how.
    > >
    > >Just curious, why don't you want them? I live in a snow area and find them
    > >helpful at times.
    > >



  8. #8
    Edwin Pawlowski
    Guest

    Default Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan


    "Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:44df203b.1083944@news.bellatlantic.net...
    > Hi Edwin,
    >
    > My mom (her car) is not having any problems with them at this time,
    > but a
    > friend of mine, who has them, said they are not good in Winter under
    > slippery
    > condition. He said, he pumps his brakes (when he begins to slide) which
    > seems
    > to bypass the ABS system.
    >
    > Brad


    The benefit of ABS is you don't have to pump and you can stop straight or
    steer. IMO, they are at their best in slippery conditions in the winter.
    Of course, they are not a substitute for common sense and slowing down when
    slippery. I just don't understand why anyone would want to disconnect them.
    --
    Ed
    http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/



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    poster
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    "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
    news:ce8Eg.13424$gY6.3972@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
    >
    > "Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    > news:44df203b.1083944@news.bellatlantic.net...
    > > Hi Edwin,
    > >
    > > My mom (her car) is not having any problems with them at this time,
    > > but a
    > > friend of mine, who has them, said they are not good in Winter under
    > > slippery
    > > condition. He said, he pumps his brakes (when he begins to slide) which
    > > seems
    > > to bypass the ABS system.
    > >
    > > Brad

    >
    > The benefit of ABS is you don't have to pump and you can stop straight or
    > steer. IMO, they are at their best in slippery conditions in the winter.
    > Of course, they are not a substitute for common sense and slowing down

    when
    > slippery. I just don't understand why anyone would want to disconnect

    them.
    > --
    > Ed
    > http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
    >


    Here's a clue for you, they don't necessarily fail safe.
    I know, it happened to me (they simply wouldn't stop
    the car, coupled with a gurgling noise emanating from
    under the hood) more than once (to no avail, I nearly
    put my foot through the firewall trying to stop) before
    the dash light came on (now permanently) indicating
    a problem. Although neither slow-speed occasion
    resulted in an impact, I have no desire to either relive
    those experiences nor have them repaired just to await
    a possible repeat performance pending the next failure.



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    Jonathan
    Guest

    Default Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

    Greetings,

    Since I'm sure you had both problems fixed after they happened, just what
    went wrong with the ABS that caused your foundation brakes to fail? Was it
    an ABS-specific part or something like a master cylinder?

    I've looked over ABS brakes both on vehicles on on schematics and the only
    thing I can think of that would cause a problem of the magnitude that you
    describe would be either a broken coupling or a crimped line either into or
    out of the ABS pump, which in and of itself is not a problem with the ABS
    but with the plumbing that could have happened anywhere.

    Please let us know.

    Cheers - Jonathan


    "poster" <poster@home.com> wrote in message
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    > "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
    > news:ce8Eg.13424$gY6.3972@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
    >>
    >> "Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
    >> news:44df203b.1083944@news.bellatlantic.net...
    >> > Hi Edwin,
    >> >
    >> > My mom (her car) is not having any problems with them at this time,
    >> > but a
    >> > friend of mine, who has them, said they are not good in Winter under
    >> > slippery
    >> > condition. He said, he pumps his brakes (when he begins to slide)
    >> > which
    >> > seems
    >> > to bypass the ABS system.
    >> >
    >> > Brad

    >>
    >> The benefit of ABS is you don't have to pump and you can stop straight or
    >> steer. IMO, they are at their best in slippery conditions in the winter.
    >> Of course, they are not a substitute for common sense and slowing down

    > when
    >> slippery. I just don't understand why anyone would want to disconnect

    > them.
    >> --
    >> Ed
    >> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
    >>

    >
    > Here's a clue for you, they don't necessarily fail safe.
    > I know, it happened to me (they simply wouldn't stop
    > the car, coupled with a gurgling noise emanating from
    > under the hood) more than once (to no avail, I nearly
    > put my foot through the firewall trying to stop) before
    > the dash light came on (now permanently) indicating
    > a problem. Although neither slow-speed occasion
    > resulted in an impact, I have no desire to either relive
    > those experiences nor have them repaired just to await
    > a possible repeat performance pending the next failure.
    >
    >




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