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  1. #1
    Tom T
    Guest

    Default 2003 Trailblazer AC problem

    Having an on again/off again problem with 2003 Trailblazer LTZ with the
    electronic AC control.

    Just recently has started blowing non-cooled outside air all at once. Have
    found if I turn compressor switch to OFF then ON again, the cooling
    sometimes comes back.

    Chevy dealer says must leave for day so technician can drive until it fails
    (which it doesn't always do!) and that procedure is at their "hourly" rate.

    Is the switch possibly corroded or something to just spontaneously make the
    compressor shut down?

    Thanks for any help/suggestions



  2. #2
    Tom T
    Guest

    Default This Service Bulletin may ID the problem

    Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to be the
    Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.

    If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple replacement job.
    My question is, when I remove the old switch will I lose Gas? If so, will
    use the dealer who will probably turn a 10 minute operation into a 10 hour
    diagnostic marathon at a bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!

    Thanks for any help you can give!






  3. #3
    Woody
    Guest

    Default Re: This Service Bulletin may ID the problem

    It isn't a 10 minute operation as the system will have to be purged and then
    filled. Get an estimate from the dealer and several good independent AC
    shops.


    "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:fcqdnVcJf5vDhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    > Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to be
    > the Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.
    >
    > If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple replacement
    > job. My question is, when I remove the old switch will I lose Gas? If so,
    > will use the dealer who will probably turn a 10 minute operation into a 10
    > hour diagnostic marathon at a bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!
    >
    > Thanks for any help you can give!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >




  4. #4
    Tom T
    Guest

    Default Re: This Service Bulletin may ID the problem

    Woody,

    Thanks for advice. Was afraid this might be the case. Why can nothing be
    simple?

    Appreciate the help much!

    Tom

    "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
    news:RsJIg.3966$yO7.3900@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
    > It isn't a 10 minute operation as the system will have to be purged and
    > then filled. Get an estimate from the dealer and several good independent
    > AC shops.
    >
    >
    > "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:fcqdnVcJf5vDhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >> Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to be
    >> the Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.
    >>
    >> If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple replacement
    >> job. My question is, when I remove the old switch will I lose Gas? If
    >> so, will use the dealer who will probably turn a 10 minute operation into
    >> a 10 hour diagnostic marathon at a bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!
    >>
    >> Thanks for any help you can give!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  5. #5
    Silver Surfer
    Guest

    Default Re: This Service Bulletin may ID the problem

    I "think" that the switch can be replaced without losing any refrigerant.
    My experience is that these switches are screwed on to a Schrader type
    valve. The valve closes off when the switch is unscrewed. The experts on
    here can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.

    "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:ceCdndf0p8kTHm7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    > Woody,
    >
    > Thanks for advice. Was afraid this might be the case. Why can nothing
    > be simple?
    >
    > Appreciate the help much!
    >
    > Tom
    >
    > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
    > news:RsJIg.3966$yO7.3900@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
    >> It isn't a 10 minute operation as the system will have to be purged and
    >> then filled. Get an estimate from the dealer and several good independent
    >> AC shops.
    >>
    >>
    >> "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >> news:fcqdnVcJf5vDhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >>> Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to be
    >>> the Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.
    >>>
    >>> If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple replacement
    >>> job. My question is, when I remove the old switch will I lose Gas? If
    >>> so, will use the dealer who will probably turn a 10 minute operation
    >>> into a 10 hour diagnostic marathon at a bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!
    >>>
    >>> Thanks for any help you can give!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  6. #6
    Tom T
    Guest

    Default I like what you "think", Silver Surfer

    Thanks for the info, Silver Surfer.

    Anyone out there sure before I blow my gas all over the garage? It's a
    2003 Trailblazer LTZ if that's of any help. Read somewhere else that when
    unscrewing you should hear a short "hiss" then the valve closes. Right now
    I'm chicken to try it without some reasonably sure advice.

    Any input would be most appreciated!

    Tom
    "Silver Surfer" <h.mcguffinspamouflage@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:XfmdnSKp_8hqFG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
    >I "think" that the switch can be replaced without losing any refrigerant.
    >My experience is that these switches are screwed on to a Schrader type
    >valve. The valve closes off when the switch is unscrewed. The experts on
    >here can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.
    >
    > "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:ceCdndf0p8kTHm7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >> Woody,
    >>
    >> Thanks for advice. Was afraid this might be the case. Why can nothing
    >> be simple?
    >>
    >> Appreciate the help much!
    >>
    >> Tom
    >>
    >> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
    >> news:RsJIg.3966$yO7.3900@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
    >>> It isn't a 10 minute operation as the system will have to be purged and
    >>> then filled. Get an estimate from the dealer and several good
    >>> independent AC shops.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:fcqdnVcJf5vDhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >>>> Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to be
    >>>> the Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.
    >>>>
    >>>> If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple replacement
    >>>> job. My question is, when I remove the old switch will I lose Gas? If
    >>>> so, will use the dealer who will probably turn a 10 minute operation
    >>>> into a 10 hour diagnostic marathon at a bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks for any help you can give!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  7. #7
    Silver Surfer
    Guest

    Default Re: I like what you "think", Silver Surfer

    For what it's worth the service manual makes absolutely no mention of having
    to remove the refrigerant charge when replacing the pressure switch.
    Procedure below:

    Document ID# 777012
    2003 Chevrolet TrailBlazer - 2WD
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Air Conditioning (A/C) Low Pressure Switch Replacement
    Tools Required
    J 39400-A Halogen Leak Detector

    Removal Procedure
    Disconnect the A/C low pressure switch electrical connector.
    Remove the A/C low pressure switch (2) from the accumulator (1).
    Remove and discard the O-ring seal from the A/C low pressure switch port on
    the accumulator.

    Installation Procedure
    Install the new O-ring seal. Refer to O-Ring Replacement .

    Notice
    Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must
    be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring
    replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or
    sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints,
    lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces
    unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping
    force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and
    specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts
    and systems.

    Install the A/C low pressure switch (2) to the accumulator (1). Tighten
    Tighten the A/C low pressure switch to 4.8 Nm (42 lb in).

    Connect the A/C low pressure switch electrical connector.
    Leak test the fittings of the components using the J 39400-A .

    "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    newsf2dnbiCwePmE27ZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
    > Thanks for the info, Silver Surfer.
    >
    > Anyone out there sure before I blow my gas all over the garage? It's a
    > 2003 Trailblazer LTZ if that's of any help. Read somewhere else that when
    > unscrewing you should hear a short "hiss" then the valve closes. Right
    > now I'm chicken to try it without some reasonably sure advice.
    >
    > Any input would be most appreciated!
    >
    > Tom
    > "Silver Surfer" <h.mcguffinspamouflage@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:XfmdnSKp_8hqFG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
    >>I "think" that the switch can be replaced without losing any refrigerant.
    >>My experience is that these switches are screwed on to a Schrader type
    >>valve. The valve closes off when the switch is unscrewed. The experts on
    >>here can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.
    >>
    >> "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >> news:ceCdndf0p8kTHm7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >>> Woody,
    >>>
    >>> Thanks for advice. Was afraid this might be the case. Why can
    >>> nothing be simple?
    >>>
    >>> Appreciate the help much!
    >>>
    >>> Tom
    >>>
    >>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:RsJIg.3966$yO7.3900@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
    >>>> It isn't a 10 minute operation as the system will have to be purged and
    >>>> then filled. Get an estimate from the dealer and several good
    >>>> independent AC shops.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>>> news:fcqdnVcJf5vDhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >>>>> Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to
    >>>>> be the Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple replacement
    >>>>> job. My question is, when I remove the old switch will I lose Gas? If
    >>>>> so, will use the dealer who will probably turn a 10 minute operation
    >>>>> into a 10 hour diagnostic marathon at a bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks for any help you can give!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  8. #8
    Tom T
    Guest

    Default Silver Surfer, You're the Greatest!r

    Really appreciate the good advice and forwarding the Service Manual
    information. Will pick up new switch and install tomorrow.

    Will certainly let you know if I did good or not!

    I'm retired now (age 70) and just don't have the money that shops seem to
    want a get for out-of-warranty work. I notice that service in warranty is
    quick and service out of warranty is not so quick and requires many many
    parts!

    Thanks again for your help, friend.

    Tom

    "Silver Surfer" <h.mcguffinspamouflage@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:5a2dnWfMe85RUGnZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
    > For what it's worth the service manual makes absolutely no mention of
    > having to remove the refrigerant charge when replacing the pressure
    > switch. Procedure below:
    >
    > Document ID# 777012
    > 2003 Chevrolet TrailBlazer - 2WD
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Air Conditioning (A/C) Low Pressure Switch Replacement
    > Tools Required
    > J 39400-A Halogen Leak Detector
    >
    > Removal Procedure
    > Disconnect the A/C low pressure switch electrical connector.
    > Remove the A/C low pressure switch (2) from the accumulator (1).
    > Remove and discard the O-ring seal from the A/C low pressure switch port
    > on the accumulator.
    >
    > Installation Procedure
    > Install the new O-ring seal. Refer to O-Ring Replacement .
    >
    > Notice
    > Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners
    > must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring
    > replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or
    > sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints,
    > lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint
    > surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint
    > clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening
    > sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid
    > damage to parts and systems.
    >
    > Install the A/C low pressure switch (2) to the accumulator (1). Tighten
    > Tighten the A/C low pressure switch to 4.8 Nm (42 lb in).
    >
    > Connect the A/C low pressure switch electrical connector.
    > Leak test the fittings of the components using the J 39400-A .
    >
    > "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > newsf2dnbiCwePmE27ZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >> Thanks for the info, Silver Surfer.
    >>
    >> Anyone out there sure before I blow my gas all over the garage? It's a
    >> 2003 Trailblazer LTZ if that's of any help. Read somewhere else that
    >> when unscrewing you should hear a short "hiss" then the valve closes.
    >> Right now I'm chicken to try it without some reasonably sure advice.
    >>
    >> Any input would be most appreciated!
    >>
    >> Tom
    >> "Silver Surfer" <h.mcguffinspamouflage@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >> news:XfmdnSKp_8hqFG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
    >>>I "think" that the switch can be replaced without losing any refrigerant.
    >>>My experience is that these switches are screwed on to a Schrader type
    >>>valve. The valve closes off when the switch is unscrewed. The experts
    >>>on here can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.
    >>>
    >>> "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:ceCdndf0p8kTHm7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >>>> Woody,
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks for advice. Was afraid this might be the case. Why can
    >>>> nothing be simple?
    >>>>
    >>>> Appreciate the help much!
    >>>>
    >>>> Tom
    >>>>
    >>>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
    >>>> news:RsJIg.3966$yO7.3900@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
    >>>>> It isn't a 10 minute operation as the system will have to be purged
    >>>>> and then filled. Get an estimate from the dealer and several good
    >>>>> independent AC shops.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Tom T" <tthirkell3@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:fcqdnVcJf5vDhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
    >>>>>> Found GM Service Bulletin # 03D-J-128 which ID's a probable cause to
    >>>>>> be the Low Pressure Cycling Switch. Trying to pin it down now.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If this is ID'd as being the cause, it looks like a simple
    >>>>>> replacement job. My question is, when I remove the old switch will I
    >>>>>> lose Gas? If so, will use the dealer who will probably turn a 10
    >>>>>> minute operation into a 10 hour diagnostic marathon at a
    >>>>>> bunch-of-bucks per hour rate!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks for any help you can give!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




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