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    irwell
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    Default Buying a new car on the internet.

    Any thoughts on this?
    Good idea, or not?



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    hyundaitech
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    Check the reputation of the dealer from which you're purchasing. If it's
    far from your home, an unscrupulous dealer could refuse to do the deal for
    the agreed price once you get there. I know there's been some talk about
    this on the edmunds.com forums. You might check there. I recall seeing
    some positive feedback regarding some of the dealers.

    http://www.carspace.com/csGroups

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    jp103
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    Default Re: Buying a new car on the internet.

    irwell wrote:
    > Any thoughts on this?
    > Good idea, or not?

    The last two cars I bought I used the internet.

    First car Azera Limited - went to the local dealer said here's what I
    want, I can get it for this from a dealer on the internet, match the
    price. After the obligatory trip to the sales manager came back within
    $50 of internet price and we had a deal.

    Second car Elantra Limited - went to the same dealer and he wasn't
    willing/able (he said here's what Hyundai is giving us we can't special
    order what you want)to check surrounding dealers for the color/model we
    wanted so bought on the internet from a dealer 200 miles away. No
    problems got a good deal and was satisfied. So far no service problems
    at the local dealer.

    If you know what you want, have tested one locally and are willing to
    travel you can find a good deal on the internet. Most dealerships are
    set up for internet sales and I've found it painless. I will give the
    local dealer a chance to match in the future but also not hesitate to go
    to the internet if it makes economic sense.

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    DonC
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    "irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:tvsep31v24081j97m16fcicn1v5q4b6lb9@4ax.com...
    > Any thoughts on this?
    > Good idea, or not?


    Used www.autotrader.com to purchase an off-lease Deville DHS with 11000
    miles 92 miles from home.

    Most of my dialog was carried out with the sales rep via email. The price
    was negotiated down during this process. The sale wasn't completed over the
    internet by design. Instead we agreed to the price contingent on our visit
    to the dealers showroom. Ended up having them rebalance the tires and add a
    luggage net and a duplicate set of floor mats at no charge.

    One of the best purchase experiences I've ever had.

    I also negotiated a price for my 2007 Sonata on-line but ended up buying it
    locally using my on-line quote as reference. Think I paid $100 more but it
    saved me a 400 mile round trip.

    The internet will be a "tool" in any of my future purchase processes!



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    Old_Timer
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    On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:28:14 -0600, "hyundaitech"
    <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:

    >Check the reputation of the dealer from which you're purchasing. If it's
    >far from your home, an unscrupulous dealer could refuse to do the deal for
    >the agreed price once you get there. I know there's been some talk about
    >this on the edmunds.com forums. You might check there. I recall seeing
    >some positive feedback regarding some of the dealers.
    >
    >http://www.carspace.com/csGroups


    A KIA dealer in a nearby town had some new leftover 2007 KIA Optimas
    (Sonta's first cousin). He had it advertised as a close out sale in
    the newspaper for $10990. Altho, not particularly in the market for a
    new car I thought this may be too good to pass up.

    I emailed the fleet manager believing I could by- pass some of the
    salesman hassle. I asked do you still have this car for $10990 net.
    He assured me that he did and urged me to come on in saying that he
    would give me the best price and top dollar on my trade if I had one.

    I went to meet him at the dealer ship. After the obligatory test
    drive we sat down at a table at the dealership. The first thing he
    did was bring out the infamous four square worksheet. I told him
    right there that we didn't need the four square worksheet but he
    would not put it aside. That immediately raised my suspicions as I
    had believed I could avoid some of a hassle by going to the fleet
    manager. I told him that there would be no financing, that is would
    be a cash deal. Then the first thing he did was add on an additional
    amount in excess of three thousand dollars explaining that this was
    for a dealer installed alarm system and fabric treatment. I told him
    "No" I was not interested in those extras. He said that they were
    already installed and I had to take them. I told him that they
    installed the alarm and they could take it out. I told him that the
    five year fabric treatment deal was simply a scam. He replied by
    saying that they had to make money in order to stay in business. We
    haggled back and forth. Then he pulled the next infamous dealer
    tactic. He left and sent out another salesperson. I asked this guy
    if he was the sales manager and he said "Yes". I then asked him if he
    had final authority to agree to a price and he said "not exactly".
    He was still trying to do trick me with the four square worksheet by
    giving me a final price without itemizing it. Then I threw the
    Trade-in offer at him. He offered me $1000 on a trade worth far more
    KBB trade value than that. I was ready to walk out. But in the
    meanwhile he had given bank my registration slip (he said he needed
    it when I mentioned a trade) He told me that they would lose money if
    they agreed to my offer. I told him that I would lose money if I
    agreed to his counter offer. Finally after he made several more trips
    back to the real sales manager, who I never saw, I was given back my
    registration slip and left.

    My last word to them before I left was that the so-called fleet
    manager has lured me in with false promise in his email to me.

    Old_Timer

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    Old_Timer
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    On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:33:00 -0600, "hyundaitech"
    <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:

    >In most states, this is illegal. If they still have the advertised car,
    >they're required to sell it to you at the advertised price or lower. (Of
    >course, if *you* want to add things at additional expense, that's your
    >prerogative).


    The dealer claimed he had himself covered for legality. When I
    protested the Alarm and Fabric Treatment add-ons the dealers pointed
    out the small print in his ad. In fine print it said Tax and license
    additional. Also printed was - All dealer installed items will be
    sold at retail price. His take on this was that they were already
    installed so the add-ons were covered by the fine print. I have
    doubts as to how well that would hold up in court but I am not the one
    to take him to court.
    His ad did read $10990 NET.

    I have fond memories of the days when I negotiated directly with a
    party that was authorized to agree on a price and close the deal.

    Some years ago a friend of mine closed a deal on a car and the person
    he was dealing with was the brother-in-law of the owner. It seems
    that the brother-in-law agreed on a price and signed a contract that
    the owner did not agree with, The dealer tried to squirm out of the
    deal but my friend threatened to take him to court and did get the car
    as agreed upon.

    Old_Timer



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    Old_Timer
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    Default Re: Buying a new car on the internet.

    On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:33:00 -0600, "hyundaitech"
    <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:

    >In most states, this is illegal. If they still have the advertised car,
    >they're required to sell it to you at the advertised price or lower. (Of
    >course, if *you* want to add things at additional expense, that's your
    >prerogative).


    The dealer claimed he had himself covered for legality. When I
    protested the Alarm and Fabric Treatment add-ons the dealers pointed
    out the small print in his ad. In fine print it said Tax and license
    additional. Also printed was - All dealer installed items will be
    sold at retail price. His take on this was that they were already
    installed so the add-ons were covered by the fine print. I have
    doubts as to how well that would hold up in court but I am not the one
    to take him to court.
    His ad did read $10990 NET.

    I have fond memories of the days when I negotiated directly with a
    party that was authorized to agree on a price and close the deal.

    Some years ago a friend of mine closed a deal on a car and the person
    he was dealing with was the brother-in-law of the owner. It seems
    that the brother-in-law agreed on a price and signed a contract that
    the owner did not agree with, The dealer tried to squirm out of the
    deal but my friend threatened to take him to court and did get the car
    as agreed upon.

    Old_Timer



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    hyundaitech
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    Default Re: Buying a new car on the internet.

    Ahh, yes. The old fine print. I haven't seen that one yet. The ones
    making their way around here indicate something like "price includes trade
    of $xxxx." In other words, you need to add $xxxx back on to the advertised
    price to get the real price.

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    Edwin Pawlowski
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    <Old_Timer> wrote in message
    >
    > I have fond memories of the days when I negotiated directly with a
    > party that was authorized to agree on a price and close the deal.
    >


    In many dealerships you never see that person. My best experience was when
    my daughter was buying her first car, a Ford Escort. She went to a dealer
    on her own and was given a price $100 off sticker of $6300. I was going to
    have the final say since I was making the downpayment as part of a
    graduation gift. She wanted the car and wanted to pay that. I went back
    with her to finalize a deal and was given the same BS. We walked. Daughter
    was upset since she was going to make the payments, etc.

    Half hour later I took her to another dealer in the area. Saleswoman
    (owner's daughter) came out and asked if we wanted to test drive the car we
    were looking at. I said no, just give me a price I'm comfortable with and
    I'll buy it. Five minutes later we bought the car for $600 less than the
    first dealer.

    Daughter is now very capable of negotiating a decent price on her cars.



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    Raoul
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    On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:28:06 -0600, "Rev. Tom Wenndt"
    <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote:

    >Good point, Mr. HyundaiTech.
    >
    >I wish there were enough of us on this site to start posting where the
    >"good" dealers are. I have seen enough of both that I am getting a real
    >feel for it where I live. But I have little optimism that, where I live, my
    >dealerships could help hardly anyone else on this site, as I don't live near
    >a major metropolis.
    >
    >But since others have found good dealerships - and bad - especially for
    >Hyundais, I would like to think that this could be good information to
    >share. I believe Hyundai to be THE best overall vehicle value in the US,
    >especially in 2008. One of the ways to forward this is to try to keep
    >people rolling into the good and reputable dealerships, whomever they may
    >be.
    >
    >Thoughts anyone?
    >


    I'm not sure how valid it would be. The Hyundai dealership near where
    i work changed hands in the past 2 years. They may be OK now, but I'd
    hate to brand them with the sleaziness of their predecessors.

    When I went in while buying my 03 Accent, they had rustproofing,
    fabric protection and paint sealant for a total of $900 extra. I ended
    up going through carsdirect.com and got a decent price. I'm not a very
    good negotiator, or poker player, so that option worked best for me.

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