Hi Group,

I'm coming due for my timing belt replacement soon on my 2000 Sonata
GLS. Since I'll probably have another car to drive in the meantime,
I'm thinking I'll try to do it myself. Is there a guide anywhere on
how to remove and replace it?
Any tips or tricks on getting to it? Looks like it'd be easiest to
get access by taking off the right front wheel and splash panel and
getting at it that way.

HMS has some good info, but a guide with pictures and not just
difficult-to-interpret sketches would probably be best.

I haven't done much work inside of engines before but I do have a
timing light and all the necessary tools.

A couple other questions, while on the topic, first...is it worth it
to do the water pump at the same time on the GLS? Also, is there
really a difference in quality between different brands of belts? I
see one kit @ Advance Auto for $183.95...and for a belt and a couple
of tensioners I can't help but think how much of that is really
margin. I mean...it's just a piece of rubber and a couple of molded
metal circles. I saw another kit on ebay for $85, which, while still
expensive for what it is, is not nearly as much of a hit. Is there a
considerable difference in reliability & life expectancy?


Thanks

Fred

<fpocai@gmail.com> wrote in message
> A couple other questions, while on the topic, first...is it worth it
> to do the water pump at the same time on the GLS?

Your choice, but if you have to do the water pump next month or next year,
you have to do the exact same labor to get to the pump. I'd replace it now.


Also, is there
> really a difference in quality between different brands of belts? I
> see one kit @ Advance Auto for $183.95...and for a belt and a couple
> of tensioners I can't help but think how much of that is really
> margin. I mean...it's just a piece of rubber and a couple of molded
> metal circles.

Just a piece of rubber? Do the math. The engine has probably gone around
150 million revolutions so that is how many rotations of the belt? Why not
just get a comparable sized belt from the lawnmower service outfit and use
that so you can save even more money. After all, it is just a piece of
molded rubber. Maybe the elastic from your underwear will work.

fpocai@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I'm coming due for my timing belt replacement soon on my 2000 Sonata
> GLS. Since I'll probably have another car to drive in the meantime,
> I'm thinking I'll try to do it myself. Is there a guide anywhere on
> how to remove and replace it?
> Any tips or tricks on getting to it? Looks like it'd be easiest to
> get access by taking off the right front wheel and splash panel and
> getting at it that way.
>
> HMS has some good info, but a guide with pictures and not just
> difficult-to-interpret sketches would probably be best.
>
> I haven't done much work inside of engines before but I do have a
> timing light and all the necessary tools.
>
> A couple other questions, while on the topic, first...is it worth it
> to do the water pump at the same time on the GLS? Also, is there
> really a difference in quality between different brands of belts? I
> see one kit @ Advance Auto for $183.95...and for a belt and a couple
> of tensioners I can't help but think how much of that is really
> margin.
> I mean...it's just a piece of rubber and a couple of molded
> metal circles.
If that's your idea of a timing belt, I'll recommend that you stay at
least 2 feet away from your engine.
Let the pro's dealt with it, you'll blow-up your engine.

> I saw another kit on ebay for $85, which, while still
> expensive for what it is, is not nearly as much of a hit. Is there a
> considerable difference in reliability& life expectancy?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Fred
>

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>
> You're right Ed, after thinking about it some more it probably isn't
> worth it to skimp on the belt...it's just that it seems like a lot of
> money for a belt, when considering that it probably only costs about
> $15 tops to manufacture the whole kit. I understand quality is
> important and I will be going for a more recognized name, but thinking
> about how much of that is margin is just sickening. I guess that's
> the case with most long-term maintenance parts though.

You have to let go of that margin hangup. That's the way of the world.
Think of it this way - how much markup is there in what you do for a living?


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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

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>
> Would still like to find a more graphical guide than the HMAService
> one. That's mainly what I'm looking for

I'm not aware of one, but then again, I've never really looked for one.
It's a pretty straight forward job though, and more detail isn't really all
that necessary. Remove everything you have to in order to get to the front
of the engine, remove the front of the engine, replace the belt, the
tensioner, the water pump, and put it all back together. Remember that
completing the job and discovering 20% extra fasteners left over is
considered proper.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

<fpocai@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> You're right Ed, after thinking about it some more it probably isn't
> worth it to skimp on the belt...it's just that it seems like a lot of
> money for a belt, when considering that it probably only costs about
> $15 tops to manufacture the whole kit. I understand quality is
> important and I will be going for a more recognized name, but thinking
> about how much of that is margin is just sickening. I guess that's
> the case with most long-term maintenance parts though.

Most items retail for at least 4X the cost of manufacture. Then you have to
look at people paying $2 for a bottle of water.

I'd consider using a belt made by any of GoodYear, Gates, or Dayco, or a
factory belt. Never heard of whatever company you saw on e-bay. Wouldn't
touch that with a ten foot pole. Not for something as important as a
timing belt on an interference engine.

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> I'd consider using a belt made by any of GoodYear, Gates, or Dayco, or a
> factory belt. Never heard of whatever company you saw on e-bay. Wouldn't
> touch that with a ten foot pole. Not for something as important as a
> timing belt on an interference engine.
>
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Oops. I'm new to the group, and only read it because I rather like
Hyundais, based on renting one a few years ago. I didn't realize that
Hyundais are interference engines....are they ALL interference in all
models? If so, my ardor for Hyundais is rapidly fading......
>

"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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>> I'd consider using a belt made by any of GoodYear, Gates, or Dayco, or a
>> factory belt. Never heard of whatever company you saw on e-bay.
>> Wouldn't
>> touch that with a ten foot pole. Not for something as important as a
>> timing belt on an interference engine.
>>
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>
> Oops. I'm new to the group, and only read it because I rather like
> Hyundais, based on renting one a few years ago. I didn't realize that
> Hyundais are interference engines....are they ALL interference in all
> models? If so, my ardor for Hyundais is rapidly fading......
>>
>
>

I think the new Sonata's have a timing chain, but the rule of thumb for a
Hyundai is timing belt and interference engine. And I agree with
you...unless there is a really good excuse for an interference engine I
don't see any reason to buy one. As far as I can tell, the Hyundai
interference engines are not vastly superior to other non- interference
engines that are available. So, one has to wonder why Hyundai has so many
interference designs. It is clearly not what the people want, although most
probably don't realize they don't want it when they buy the car, only later
when it breaks or when the bill comes for the recommended maintenance.
Comments?

"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
> news:b6a3f1938850f5b5902e8c8282d5bf85@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> I'd consider using a belt made by any of GoodYear, Gates, or Dayco, or a
>> factory belt. Never heard of whatever company you saw on e-bay.
>> Wouldn't
>> touch that with a ten foot pole. Not for something as important as a
>> timing belt on an interference engine.
>>
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>
> Oops. I'm new to the group, and only read it because I rather like
> Hyundais, based on renting one a few years ago. I didn't realize that
> Hyundais are interference engines....are they ALL interference in all
> models? If so, my ardor for Hyundais is rapidly fading......
>>

The Sonata and 6 cylinder SantaFe are timing chain, not belt. I'm not sure
of some of the others. What model are you interested in?