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Old 09-24-2008, 01:31 AM
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I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
I get to the destination?

I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
the car, but I just want to be sure.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:31 AM
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>>I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
>> load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
>> I get to the destination?
>>
>> I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
>> the car, but I just want to be sure.

>
> Probably OK.
>
> Just to be on the safe side I'd try to distribute this
> weight so that some of it is between the axles. For
> example couple of bags on the rear seat, rear floor.
> Maybe put the spare tire in the cabin etc.
>
> You should be fine.



Almost forgot, don't fillup the tank too much.
This is where you can save a lot of weight.

M.J.


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<griff.duncan@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
> load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
> I get to the destination?
>
> I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
> the car, but I just want to be sure.


Probably OK.

Just to be on the safe side I'd try to distribute this
weight so that some of it is between the axles. For
example couple of bags on the rear seat, rear floor.
Maybe put the spare tire in the cabin etc.

You should be fine.

M.J.


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Old 09-24-2008, 10:35 AM
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You should also bring some jacks and use it if you are in a long park. maybe for an overnight to get some of the weight off the wheels.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:41 PM
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griff.duncan@gmail.com wrote:
> I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
> load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
> I get to the destination?
>
> I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
> the car, but I just want to be sure.

Hi,
That is roughly the weight of 4 persons. I'd distribute weight around.
Loading some in the front passenger side fllor/seat, back seat/floor and
rear cargo space, etc. And with that weight car will feel different driving.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:41 PM
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griff.duncan@gmail.com wrote:

> I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
> load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
> I get to the destination?
>
> I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
> the car, but I just want to be sure.


As others said - try to load it as far forward as possible.

And make sure you have properly inflated tires, perhaps even 10% above
the recommended. But never more than the sidewall max pressure.

And don't throw your back out loading the out-back!


Carl


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..._.. wrote:
> Water is 8.3 gal per gallon. Gasoline is somewhat lighter than that, so
> figure that's a max.
>
> An enpty gas tank vs full (assuming a 13 gallon tank) is a bit more than 100
> pounds. Depending on how big the bags are you aren't saving a whole lot.
>
> Keep in mind, with a load, gas will go faster than normal so keep an eye on
> the level if the trip is a long one and you use the tank to save on weight.
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>>><griff.duncan@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:n90jd4thcut8bl4o0bv7c4itfvbhm2b9no@4ax.com ...
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>>>
>>>>I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
>>>>load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
>>>>I get to the destination?
>>>>
>>>>I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
>>>>the car, but I just want to be sure.
>>>
>>>Probably OK.
>>>
>>>Just to be on the safe side I'd try to distribute this
>>>weight so that some of it is between the axles. For
>>>example couple of bags on the rear seat, rear floor.
>>>Maybe put the spare tire in the cabin etc.
>>>
>>>You should be fine.

>>
>>
>>Almost forgot, don't fillup the tank too much.
>>This is where you can save a lot of weight.
>>
>>M.J.
>>
>>

>
>
>


I think pilots figure 7lbs. per gallon - car gas is slight heavier I THINK.

carl


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griff.duncan@gmail.com Sep 23, 2008 at 05:55 PM wrote:


>I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
>load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
>I get to the destination?


>I'm guessing it's OK becaus it's like having 3 good-sized adults in
>the car, but I just want to be sure.


Outback wagon? If so, fold the seat, load as many bags as possible right
behind the front seats, then work backwards. Sedan? Two on the rear floor,
four on the rear seat and four in the back should do you. In either case,
run *at least* your recommended pressures for high speed/full load. If it
was me, i'd probably put 36psi in the fronts and 40-42 in the rears.
You're not in danger of exceeding your safe load limit unless you try and
fit 5 people in too Cheers

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Old 09-25-2008, 10:32 AM
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griff.duncan@gmail.com wrote:
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> I need to transport 560 lbs. of cement in my 2000 Outback. Is it OK to
> load up the back with that much and keep it loaded for 24 hours until
> I get to the destination?


Hi,

No need to guess. Read the door sticker! It should give you a maximum
"payload" figure, as well as tire inflation pressures for a "full" load.
Then get out your cheapo $3 calculator and go to work.

For example:

The sticker on my ol' Loyale wagon says max payload's 900 lbs. Ok, 900
lbs minus 210 lbs (me) minus 560 lbs (your cement) equals 130 lbs
"reserve" if we were using my car instead of yours. So there's no need
to lower the fuel load or anything else IF I'm not gonna carry
passengers or equipment on this trip. If you think you need to drop fuel
to "gain" some extra payload, I've always heard 6 lbs/gal for gasoline
(US gal, not the bigger Imperial gal, which is probably closer to the
seven mentioned.)

Below that, my sticker says "regular" (or "light?") load requires 28 psi
frt/rr, while a "full" load requires 28 psi frt, 32 psi rr. I'd add a
couple of psi to that "just cuz" and still be below max on the sidewall.

As for loading, think "weight and balance" as the guys have mentioned.
Since I'm 210, I'd stick as close to that amount in the front passenger
area as I could (100 lbs on the seat, 100 on the floor
perhaps--depending on what weight sacks we have), maybe 100 lbs behind
the rear seat in the luggage area, positioned fore/aft close to the rear
wheels (axle), and split the rest between the two rear passenger
positions (again, part on the seats, part on the floor perhaps.) Tossing
all 560 lbs all the way in the back will probably exceed the rear axle
weight rating, and certainly cause some interesting (if not serious!)
handling issues even it it doesn't.

Leaving the weight in for 24 hours should pose no problem--I've had mine
pretty well loaded up for week long trips and it didn't know any
different at the end of the trips from the beginning. Just remember what
someone's already mentioned: the car WILL feel and handle differently,
especially w/ longer acceleration and braking distances, so drive more
w/ your head than your right foot.

And after all that, maybe there will be willing bodies at your
destination to unload the car for you?

Rick
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:32 PM
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Depends on the API gravity of the gasoline, which varies by grade and
refinery. Usually, regular unleaded gasoline has a gravity of around
58 and a weight per gallon of 6.216 pounds per gallon. Premium
gasoline may have a gravity of 54, or 6.350 pounds per gallon.

and yes the door sticker and calc. oh, look on your tires sidewall for
load psi specs.

or look on the sticker for towing specs and get a trailer, but
shouldn't be a problem hauling that weight in you car.
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