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01-27-2007, 11:51 PM
| | | Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road Hi all,
Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-oc
Well worth a look
--
Best Regards
Mark
It's time to add some chlorine to the gene pool ! | 
01-27-2007, 11:51 PM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road
On Jan 27, 3:47 am, "Marcus" <A...@GetReal.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching it.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-oc
>
This was available and posted here long before the wizards of business
development
at Ford propagated the same shit into the 500. On the plus side once
you get
stuck you can practice your carmasutra in the spacious trunk. | 
01-27-2007, 11:51 PM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road <isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169901715.830871.84930@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
> On Jan 27, 3:47 am, "Marcus" <A...@GetReal.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching
>> it.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-oc
>>
> This was available and posted here long before the wizards of business
> development
> at Ford propagated the same shit into the 500. On the plus side once
> you get
> stuck you can practice your carmasutra in the spacious trunk.
>
LMAO
Blair | 
01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road
"Marcus" <Asif@GetReal.com> wrote in message news:epfe3l$569$1@aioe.org...
> Hi all,
>
> Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching it.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-oc
Why didn't they disable AWD on the Subaru also.
It would have made the comparison worthwile.
M.J.
>
> Well worth a look
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Mark
> It's time to add some chlorine to the gene pool ! | 
01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road What makes you think the volvo had AWD disabled? Maybe they just
suck?
On Jan 27, 3:34 pm, "M.J." <M...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Marcus" <A...@GetReal.com> wrote in messagenews:epfe3l$569$1@aioe.org...
> > Hi all,
>
> > Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching it.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-ocWhy didn't they disable AWD on the Subaru also.
> It would have made the comparison worthwile.
>
> M.J.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Well worth a look
> > --
> > Best Regards
>
> > Mark
> > It's time to add some chlorine to the gene pool !- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - | 
01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road
<bigjim@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:1169930880.749150.158560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> What makes you think the volvo had AWD disabled? Maybe they just
> suck?
You blind or an idiot?
M.J.
>
> On Jan 27, 3:34 pm, "M.J." <M...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Marcus" <A...@GetReal.com> wrote in messagenews:epfe3l$569$1@aioe.org...
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> > Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching
>> > it.
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-ocWhy didn't they disable AWD on
>> >the Subaru also.
>> It would have made the comparison worthwile.
>>
>> M.J.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Well worth a look
>> > --
>> > Best Regards
>>
>> > Mark
>> > It's time to add some chlorine to the gene pool !- Hide quoted text --
>> > Show quoted text -
> | 
01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road
"M.J." <M.J.@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CuPuh.27462$sR.26317@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et...
> <bigjim@backpacker.com> wrote in message
> news:1169930880.749150.158560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> What makes you think the volvo had AWD disabled? Maybe they just
>> suck?
>
>
> You blind or an idiot?
My apologies I take the idiot back. It seems Volvo is making idiots
out of people claiming their cars have AWD, of sorts. See below
article titled:
How come Volvo can claim they have full time AWD even though primarely
only two wheels are powered? http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/volvo.html
M.J.
>>
>> On Jan 27, 3:34 pm, "M.J." <M...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "Marcus" <A...@GetReal.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews:epfe3l$569$1@aioe.org...
>>> > Hi all,
>>>
>>> > Saw this clip on youtube.com, thought some of you might enjoy watching
>>> > it.
>>>
>>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLgYskj-ocWhy didn't they disable AWD
>>> >on the Subaru also.
>>> It would have made the comparison worthwile.
>>>
>>> M.J.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Well worth a look
>>> > --
>>> > Best Regards
>>>
>>> > Mark
>>> > It's time to add some chlorine to the gene pool !- Hide quoted text --
>>> > Show quoted text -
>>
>
> | 
01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:49:33 GMT, "M.J." <M.J.@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How come Volvo can claim they have full time AWD even though primarely
>only two wheels are powered?
The same way Subaru does?
"It transfers the power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that
grip."
Some Subies use electric friction clutches just like Honda's "Real
Time 4WD. "
Other Subies have real AWD with center diffs and full-time drive. | 
01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road
"Bonehenge" <DwightSchrute@DunderMifflin.com> wrote in message
news:8hinr257da6lbvs6doqfidvatlk2ob12o9@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:49:33 GMT, "M.J." <M.J.@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How come Volvo can claim they have full time AWD even though
>> primarely
>>only two wheels are powered?
>
> The same way Subaru does?
If you look carefully at the video it appears, not definite, but it
appears to me that the Subaru is a manual transmission car-
the guy looks for a brief moment to be shifting a manual gear.
If this were the case the the Subaru would have had a 50/50
torque split between front and rear wheels. The Volvo is 95/5
making it practically a FWD car. Not very good comparison.
This video cannot be judged without hearing and understanding
the commentary.
M.J.
>
> "It transfers the power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that
> grip."
>
> Some Subies use electric friction clutches just like Honda's "Real
> Time 4WD. "
>
> Other Subies have real AWD with center diffs and full-time drive. | 
01-28-2007, 06:59 AM
| | | Re: Legacy Estate Vs Volvo XC70 Estate off road
On Jan 27, 2:08 pm, "M.J." <M...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Bonehenge" <DwightSchr...@DunderMifflin.com> wrote in messagenews:8hinr257da6lbvs6doqfidvatlk2ob12o9@4ax .com...
>
> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:49:33 GMT, "M.J." <M...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> How come Volvo can claim they have full time AWD even though
> >> primarely
> >>only two wheels are powered?
>
> > The same way Subaru does?If you look carefully at the video it appears, not definite, but it
> appears to me that the Subaru is a manual transmission car-
> the guy looks for a brief moment to be shifting a manual gear.
> If this were the case the the Subaru would have had a 50/50
> torque split between front and rear wheels. The Volvo is 95/5
> making it practically a FWD car. Not very good comparison.
>
> This video cannot be judged without hearing and understanding
> the commentary.
>
sure it can be judged as a silent movie.
Haldex is a piece of shit. always have been and still is.
It can be found on audi A3, TT, assorted vulvas and now ford 500.
I think RAV4 and CR-V have something along the same lines
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