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Old 01-30-2007, 04:53 AM
Harvey
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Model 2000 Legacy Wagon

Can anyone recommend a trunk - rear hatch - mounted rack that will allow the
rear wiper to function with the rack attached? I have checked the Yakima
and Thule web sites and nothing seems to meet my needs.

Thanks,

Harvey


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Old 01-30-2007, 04:53 AM
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"Harvey" <harvey.nospam.123@sasktel.net> writes:

> Model 2000 Legacy Wagon
>
> Can anyone recommend a trunk - rear hatch - mounted rack that will allow the
> rear wiper to function with the rack attached? I have checked the Yakima
> and Thule web sites and nothing seems to meet my needs.


I added a hitch to my vehicle because I wasn't happy with other
options. You can do this yourself actually. You might be shocked at
how easy it is. And then I bought a Thule/Sportworks hitch mounted
rack. I posted details in this article:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...5?dmode=source

Hope that helps some. We have rather similar vehicles.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:24 PM
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Get the roof rack!! I have had all three types and the roof rack is
by far the best. Here's why:
1. Bikes lock securely to rack makimg theft more difficlt.
2. Does not interfere with rear hatch
3. Does not sway and attaches to vehicle better than strapped on
trunck racks.



On Jan 29, 11:44 pm, "Harvey" <harvey.nospam....@sasktel.net> wrote:
> Model 2000 Legacy Wagon
>
> Can anyone recommend a trunk - rear hatch - mounted rack that will allow the
> rear wiper to function with the rack attached? I have checked the Yakima
> and Thule web sites and nothing seems to meet my needs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harvey



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Old 02-01-2007, 10:24 PM
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bigjim@backpacker.com writes:

> Get the roof rack!! I have had all three types and the roof rack is
> by far the best. Here's why:
> 1. Bikes lock securely to rack makimg theft more difficlt.
> 2. Does not interfere with rear hatch
> 3. Does not sway and attaches to vehicle better than strapped on
> trunck racks.


I have both hitch mount and roof racks, and I have an opposite opinion
entirely. Especially with 1 and 3.

Harder to get up there for one, and they're more secure and wind load
the vehicle less on my Sportworks hitch rack vs my Yakima roof rack.
It's more secure on my Sportworks rack too since I can use extremely
secure cable locks --one from the rack to the car chassis, another
through the bikes to the rack.

Interference with the hatch is an inconvenience, but the other options
leave me putting on my hatch rack even if the roof rails are already
up there. I only use the roof rails if I'm moving >2 bikes.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:01 PM
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Roof rack quicker to mount bies to as well

On Feb 1, 4:07 pm, sub...@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote:
> big...@backpacker.com writes:
> > Get the roof rack!! I have had all three types and the roof rack is
> > by far the best. Here's why:
> > 1. Bikes lock securely to rack makimg theft more difficlt.
> > 2. Does not interfere with rear hatch
> > 3. Does not sway and attaches to vehicle better than strapped on
> > trunck racks.

>
> I have both hitch mount and roof racks, and I have an opposite opinion
> entirely. Especially with 1 and 3.
>
> Harder to get up there for one, and they're more secure and wind load
> the vehicle less on my Sportworks hitch rack vs my Yakima roof rack.
> It's more secure on my Sportworks rack too since I can use extremely
> secure cable locks --one from the rack to the car chassis, another
> through the bikes to the rack.
>
> Interference with the hatch is an inconvenience, but the other options
> leave me putting on my hatch rack even if the roof rails are already
> up there. I only use the roof rails if I'm moving >2 bikes.
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Todd H.
> 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
> Chicago, Illinois USA



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Old 02-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Todd,


Thanks for the input - I will look into the hitch option.

Harvey


----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd H." <subaru@toddh.net>
> I added a hitch to my vehicle because I wasn't happy with other
> options. You can do this yourself actually. You might be shocked at
> how easy it is. And then I bought a Thule/Sportworks hitch mounted
> rack. I posted details in this article:
>
>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...5?dmode=source
>
> Hope that helps some. We have rather similar vehicles.





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Old 02-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Todd H. wrote:

> bigjim@backpacker.com writes:
>
>
>>Get the roof rack!! I have had all three types and the roof rack is
>>by far the best. Here's why:
>>1. Bikes lock securely to rack makimg theft more difficlt.
>>2. Does not interfere with rear hatch
>>3. Does not sway and attaches to vehicle better than strapped on
>>trunck racks.

>
>
> I have both hitch mount and roof racks, and I have an opposite opinion
> entirely. Especially with 1 and 3.
>
> Harder to get up there for one, and they're more secure and wind load
> the vehicle less on my Sportworks hitch rack vs my Yakima roof rack.
> It's more secure on my Sportworks rack too since I can use extremely
> secure cable locks --one from the rack to the car chassis, another
> through the bikes to the rack.
>
> Interference with the hatch is an inconvenience, but the other options
> leave me putting on my hatch rack even if the roof rails are already
> up there. I only use the roof rails if I'm moving >2 bikes.
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Todd H.
> 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
> Chicago, Illinois USA


My 1UpUSA tilts down with bikes attached should I need to open the hatch
on my WRX wagon.
It's a work of art, but cost as much too!
I think it's been replaced with a Raxter?

Carl



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Old 02-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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I sell a whole list of rack brands at a bicycle shop.

Usually left off of internet rack discussions is the bicycle type and
the personal makeup of the person.

- Got an 17 or 18 pound road bike?

Those are easy to get on the roof, easy to remove the front wheel and
securely lock in a fork mount, and something that grabs the frame might
not be desirable, especially with custom paint or super light tubing.
The lower profile of the handlebars in a fork mount will also cause less
clearance issues with drive-thru's, parking structures, etc...


- Like to ride 45 pound hybrids or downhill or "all-mountain" bikes?

These are much more difficult to get up on top. Through axles are more
of a pain to fit to fork mounts. Upright racks that allow the front
wheel to stay on mean the handlebars are UP THERE, and may fit low
hanging trees, drive-thru's etc... Mountain bikes can be wet, muddy,
etc... after a good ride.

- Are you short or tall, big or small? A 6'2" 220 pound male can easily
put a 35 pound all-mountain bike on top, even on an SUV, because he can
probably stand on an open door, hold his body up with one hand and
one-hand the bike onto the rack. A 5'3" woman will have a much more
difficult time doing the same.

Also keep in mind the following:

- Hitch racks, while easily accessible to smaller people, are usually
HEAVY! If you're planning on a small person installing and removing the
rack, keep that in mind. Some "accessibility features" work better than
others, some move with finger tips, some require serious strength to
operate. TRY IT BEFORE YOU BUY IT, with and without bikes mounted. A
smaller person (or a larger person with a "Pro-cyclist" upper body <G>)
may have difficulty installing a hitch rack alone, as the mass may be
difficult to manuever into the hitch receiver. Roof racks are always
available for use, as they're usually left on the vehicle.

- ALL racks can be outfitted to a similar security level.
- ALL rack security systems are defeatable by someone who really wants
you stuff.
- Empty racks, without locks, get stolen off cars at trail heads and
parking lots.
- BMX and kids bikes add even more things to think about.


Good luck!



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Old 02-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Barry,

Thanks for the input. I think I want a hatch mount rack for my 2000 Legacy
Brighton Wagon. I have a Mongoose Crossway hybrd - weight 30 lbs??

I am looking for a relatively inexpensive solution. There is no roof rail
on the car and I do not have a trailer hitch.

I am a 60+ male, 5ft 10in, 165 bs. realatively good condition, but no
Arnie!

Preferably the hatch mount will allow the rear wiper to work.

Most of the time I will transport to a city park for cycling. Maybe the odd
highway trip,

What suggestions would you have if I were to come in to your shop?

Thanks,

Harvey

"B A R R Y" <beech23pilot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I sell a whole list of rack brands at a bicycle shop.
>
> Usually left off of internet rack discussions is the bicycle type and
> the personal makeup of the person.



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Old 02-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Harvey wrote:
>
> What suggestions would you have if I were to come in to your shop?


How many other bikes would you like to carry? If you're pretty sure
you'll only carry one bike almost all of the time, the most basic Thule
or Yakima will serve you well. The more expensive versions have better
saddles to prevent bikes from swinging and banging together. The most
expensive versions can carry 4 bikes in a very secure fashion.

Many hatch mounts WILL interfere with rear wipers. Most customers look
at it from the standpoint that you probably won't be using the rack on
days you'd need the wiper. Hatch mount racks are very easy to steal and
the woven straps may not like continuous weather exposure, so you might
not want to leave it on all the time. On the other hand, once a rack is
configured for a specific vehicle, you probably may only need to adjust
one strap to install or remove it.

Yakima and Thule both make excellent hatch racks at varying price
points, depending on bike mounting pads, separation, etc... The rack
that fits the most diverse vehicles, including lots of spoiler equipped
sedans, should you buy one in the future, is very well made and
rustproof, but more expensive than the others are the different versions
of Saris Bones.

"Fit guides" can be found at Yakima.com and Thule.com to make sure a
specific model will fit your specific car, as well as provide attachment
details and wiper clearance notes.

If it's one bike all the time, your local bike shop may also have a
generic, inexpensive version that'll work fine.


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