Hi all. I just got a pre-owned 2003 Subaru wagon. I am confused as to
whether it's a regular Outback or a Legacy Outback, however. The
TITLE and dealership I bought it from say it's a Legacy Outback. When
they punched up the VIN for the title, it stated it's a Legacy. But
shouldn't there be a "LEGACY" namebadge on the exterior of the car on
the back? There isn't - all it says is OUTBACK on the back hatch.

It's got the winter package (heated seats, side mirrors and wiper
blades), single CD player, no sun/moonroof, cloth seats (no leather),
and wood grain console trim. I see no mention on the car itself of
LEGACY.

I'd like to know what I got, as I want to order some accessories, and
you have to choose what vehicle you need parts for, and some places
have both Legacy and Outback when I got to 2003 Outback section.

"M. Baker" <thebakersmml@hotmail.com> writes:

> Hi all. I just got a pre-owned 2003 Subaru wagon. I am confused as to
> whether it's a regular Outback or a Legacy Outback, however.

The answer to your either/or question is "yes." :-)

> The TITLE and dealership I bought it from say it's a Legacy
> Outback. When they punched up the VIN for the title, it stated it's
> a Legacy. But shouldn't there be a "LEGACY" namebadge on the
> exterior of the car on the back? There isn't - all it says is
> OUTBACK on the back hatch.
>
> It's got the winter package (heated seats, side mirrors and wiper
> blades), single CD player, no sun/moonroof, cloth seats (no leather),
> and wood grain console trim. I see no mention on the car itself of
> LEGACY.
>
> I'd like to know what I got, as I want to order some accessories, and
> you have to choose what vehicle you need parts for, and some places
> have both Legacy and Outback when I got to 2003 Outback section.

This was confusing to me as well.

Subaru basically made only 2 vehicles that year, a Legacy platform,
and the shorter wheelbase Impreza platform.

Your "Outback" is a higher riding, option rich version of the Legacy
wagon.

The "Outback Sport" is a similar trim packaged vehicle on the impreza
platform. The WRX is also a flavor of impreza, as is the RS.

If you think of "Outback" sort of as a trim line, it makes more
sense. Subaru just dropped Legacy from our vehicle's names for
marketing reasons. But they are Legacy based vehicles.

--
Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA

M. Baker wrote:
> Hi all. I just got a pre-owned 2003 Subaru wagon. I am confused as to
> whether it's a regular Outback or a Legacy Outback, however. The
> TITLE and dealership I bought it from say it's a Legacy Outback. When
> they punched up the VIN for the title, it stated it's a Legacy. But
> shouldn't there be a "LEGACY" namebadge on the exterior of the car on
> the back? There isn't - all it says is OUTBACK on the back hatch.
>
> It's got the winter package (heated seats, side mirrors and wiper
> blades), single CD player, no sun/moonroof, cloth seats (no leather),
> and wood grain console trim. I see no mention on the car itself of
> LEGACY.
>
> I'd like to know what I got, as I want to order some accessories, and
> you have to choose what vehicle you need parts for, and some places
> have both Legacy and Outback when I got to 2003 Outback section.
>

There are TWO Outback lines, one's the Outback based on the Legacy
(full-size) and the Outback Sport based on the Imprezza compact.

Both are just trim/option packages.

On Jan 31, 12:09 pm, sub...@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote:
> "M. Baker" <thebakers...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > Hi all. I just got a pre-owned 2003 Subaru wagon. I am confused as to
> > whether it's a regular Outback or a Legacy Outback, however.
>
> The answer to your either/or question is "yes." :-)
>
> > The TITLE and dealership I bought it from say it's a Legacy
> > Outback. When they punched up the VIN for the title, it stated it's
> > a Legacy. But shouldn't there be a "LEGACY" namebadge on the
> > exterior of the car on the back? There isn't - all it says is
> > OUTBACK on the back hatch.
>
> > It's got the winter package (heated seats, side mirrors and wiper
> > blades), single CD player, no sun/moonroof, cloth seats (no leather),
> > and wood grain console trim. I see no mention on the car itself of
> > LEGACY.
>
> > I'd like to know what I got, as I want to order some accessories, and
> > you have to choose what vehicle you need parts for, and some places
> > have both Legacy and Outback when I got to 2003 Outback section.
>
> This was confusing to me as well.
>
> Subaru basically made only 2 vehicles that year, a Legacy platform,
> and the shorter wheelbase Impreza platform.
>
> Your "Outback" is a higher riding, option rich version of the Legacy
> wagon.
>
> The "Outback Sport" is a similar trim packaged vehicle on the impreza
> platform. The WRX is also a flavor of impreza, as is the RS.
>
> If you think of "Outback" sort of as a trim line, it makes more
> sense. Subaru just dropped Legacy from our vehicle's names for
> marketing reasons. But they are Legacy based vehicles.
>
You're joking? Legacy is still on subaru.com
even for 2008 there is a preview
And if you're to believe the configurator on carsdirect.com
legacy can be even had with a manual for no extra charge :-)

What's nice is that by default there are no splash guards on Legacy.
On a legacy based outback I believe you'd get those and would have
to remove. Small beans but $100 wasted.

M. Baker wrote:

> Hi all. I just got a pre-owned 2003 Subaru wagon. I am confused as to
> whether it's a regular Outback or a Legacy Outback, however. The
> TITLE and dealership I bought it from say it's a Legacy Outback. When
> they punched up the VIN for the title, it stated it's a Legacy. But
> shouldn't there be a "LEGACY" namebadge on the exterior of the car on
> the back? There isn't - all it says is OUTBACK on the back hatch.
>
> It's got the winter package (heated seats, side mirrors and wiper
> blades), single CD player, no sun/moonroof, cloth seats (no leather),
> and wood grain console trim. I see no mention on the car itself of
> LEGACY.
>
> I'd like to know what I got, as I want to order some accessories, and
> you have to choose what vehicle you need parts for, and some places
> have both Legacy and Outback when I got to 2003 Outback section.
>

you might enjoy looking around at www.cars101.com

Carl


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So, I DO have a Legacy Outback wagon then? So if forced to choose, I
would look under Legacy Products rather than Outback Products (as it's
separated on subaru-parts.com)?

When I looked in the owners manual (which was for both Legacy/Outback,
so that didn't tell me anything substansive either), it had the specs
for each car. It said the Legacy Wagon has a shorter ground clearance
and shorter overhall height than the Outback Wagon. So judging from
that, they are TWO different things - an Outback Wagon, or a Legacy
Outback Wagon - isn't there an easy way for me to tell, by the color
and/or options I have, etc.? If I measure ground cleance, where do I
measure to on the car, the bottom of the side/bumper moldings?

I still don't get why, if I do have a Legacy, my car doesn't have the
LEGACY namebadge anywhere on it.

Todd H. wrote:
>
> I didn't say the Legacy didn't exist. I said "dropped Legacy from our
> vehicles' names." And the OP and I own Outbacks.

My 2001 OBW was registered by the dealer as, wait for it...

A 2001 Subaru Legacy Station Wagon. <G>

It said Outback on the outside, but Legacy on the manual cover.

B A R R Y <beech23pilot@yahoo.com> writes:

> Todd H. wrote:
> > I didn't say the Legacy didn't exist. I said "dropped Legacy from
> > our
> > vehicles' names." And the OP and I own Outbacks.
>
> My 2001 OBW was registered by the dealer as, wait for it...
>
> A 2001 Subaru Legacy Station Wagon. <G>
>
> It said Outback on the outside, but Legacy on the manual cover.

Yes indeed.

Interesting that Legacy is left out of all marketing materials though,
and hence the confusion.

--
Todd H.
2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
Chicago, Illinois USA

Todd H. wrote:

>
> Interesting that Legacy is left out of all marketing materials though,
> and hence the confusion.

Agreed!

I had a very interesting conversation once with the owner of a 2001
Legacy GT wagon. This guy SWORE his car was totally different than my
'01 OBW. We had identical owner's manuals in our respective gloveboxes.
<G>

On Feb 1, 11:32 am, B A R R Y <beech23pi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Todd H. wrote:
>
> > Interesting that Legacy is left out of all marketing materials though,
> > and hence the confusion.
>
> Agreed!
>
> I had a very interesting conversation once with the owner of a 2001
> Legacy GT wagon. This guy SWORE his car was totally different than my
> '01 OBW. We had identical owner's manuals in our respective gloveboxes.
> <G>

Yes - it's very confusing. The title says Legacy - that's how it
punched up when they put the VIN in at the dealer. But the car says
Legacy on it nowhere.

So....do I look under "Legacy Products" or "Outback Products"?