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    frshippen@gmail.com
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    Default 2004 Forester rear differential shudder/chatter

    Hi- just got a 2004 Forester 2.5X w/ 20k miles, runs great, but noticed
    that when I shift into drive and apply gas immediately (within 2-3
    secs) there's a pronouced shudder from what feels like the rear end.
    I'm guessing it's the AWD system getting the rear differential in snyc,
    I've never had an AWD car, and I need to know if this is normal or
    not???

    pls email as well as post- makeitwork@comcast.net

    thanks!
    Reid




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    Carl 1 Lucky Texan
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    frshippen@gmail.com wrote:
    > Hi- just got a 2004 Forester 2.5X w/ 20k miles, runs great, but noticed
    > that when I shift into drive and apply gas immediately (within 2-3
    > secs) there's a pronouced shudder from what feels like the rear end.
    > I'm guessing it's the AWD system getting the rear differential in snyc,
    > I've never had an AWD car, and I need to know if this is normal or
    > not???
    >
    > pls email as well as post- makeitwork@comcast.net
    >
    > thanks!
    > Reid
    >

    I assume it an automatic. Very frist thing to do, is make certain all
    4 tires are the same brand, style and size. Try so slow tight
    circles/figure 8s in a parking lot. Jerkiness is sign of moderate to
    very expensive transmission work required. (center differential)

    Carl


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    Porgy Tirebiter
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    "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn@swbell.not> wrote in message
    news:ACFPg.3278$6S3.1878@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
    > frshippen@gmail.com wrote:
    >> Hi- just got a 2004 Forester 2.5X w/ 20k miles, runs great, but noticed
    >> that when I shift into drive and apply gas immediately (within 2-3
    >> secs) there's a pronouced shudder from what feels like the rear end.
    >> I'm guessing it's the AWD system getting the rear differential in snyc,
    >> I've never had an AWD car, and I need to know if this is normal or
    >> not???
    >>
    >> pls email as well as post- makeitwork@comcast.net
    >>
    >> thanks!
    >> Reid
    >>

    > I assume it an automatic. Very frist thing to do, is make certain all 4
    > tires are the same brand, style and size. Try so slow tight circles/figure
    > 8s in a parking lot. Jerkiness is sign of moderate to very expensive
    > transmission work required. (center differential)
    >
    > Carl
    > to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)


    A 2 year old car...with a measly 20K miles...makes you really wonder
    about Subaru's poor design.
    Unless someone beat this car like a stray coyote, this should not happen...




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    Carl 1 Lucky Texan
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    Porgy Tirebiter wrote:
    > "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn@swbell.not> wrote in message
    > news:ACFPg.3278$6S3.1878@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
    >
    >>frshippen@gmail.com wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi- just got a 2004 Forester 2.5X w/ 20k miles, runs great, but noticed
    >>>that when I shift into drive and apply gas immediately (within 2-3
    >>>secs) there's a pronouced shudder from what feels like the rear end.
    >>>I'm guessing it's the AWD system getting the rear differential in snyc,
    >>>I've never had an AWD car, and I need to know if this is normal or
    >>>not???
    >>>
    >>>pls email as well as post- makeitwork@comcast.net
    >>>
    >>>thanks!
    >>>Reid
    >>>

    >>
    >> I assume it an automatic. Very frist thing to do, is make certain all 4
    >>tires are the same brand, style and size. Try so slow tight circles/figure
    >>8s in a parking lot. Jerkiness is sign of moderate to very expensive
    >>transmission work required. (center differential)
    >>
    >>Carl
    >>to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)

    >
    >
    > A 2 year old car...with a measly 20K miles...makes you really wonder
    > about Subaru's poor design.
    > Unless someone beat this car like a stray coyote, this should not happen...
    >
    >
    >


    If the design were poor, THOUSANDS would be posting about the problem,
    and Subaru would no longer exist. The problem he is ahving may very well
    have been caused by ignorance/abuse and if it isn't - may be covered
    under warranty.

    Do you know anything about the AWD system in a Subaru? Do you know why I
    wrote what I did?

    Please enlighten us as to Subaru's poor design. We're waiting for your
    expertise in the matter.

    Carl


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    Eric Cartman
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    >> A 2 year old car...with a measly 20K miles...makes you really wonder
    >> about Subaru's poor design.
    >> Unless someone beat this car like a stray coyote, this should not
    >> happen...
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > If the design were poor, THOUSANDS would be posting about the problem, and
    > Subaru would no longer exist. The problem he is ahving may very well have
    > been caused by ignorance/abuse and if it isn't - may be covered under
    > warranty.
    >
    > Do you know anything about the AWD system in a Subaru? Do you know why I
    > wrote what I did?
    >
    > Please enlighten us as to Subaru's poor design. We're waiting for your
    > expertise in the matter.
    >
    > Carl

    I would imagine he is referring to the cooling system, the fuel rails, the
    electrical system, the crappy paint, the stereo amps that catch fire...thats
    just for starts....
    maybe thats what he is referring to.....



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    Edward Hayes
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    Gee: I guess I am the lucky ONE. 111,000 miles and to date I have
    replaced the following. One head light bulb, one over head clock, one
    set of brake pads, 5 sets of wiper blades, 3 sets of tires. I'm sure
    I've forgotten something but, what the heck, maybe my next Subaru will
    be trouble free. Eddie



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    Carl 1 Lucky Texan
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    Eric Cartman wrote:

    >>>A 2 year old car...with a measly 20K miles...makes you really wonder
    >>>about Subaru's poor design.
    >>>Unless someone beat this car like a stray coyote, this should not
    >>>happen...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>If the design were poor, THOUSANDS would be posting about the problem, and
    >>Subaru would no longer exist. The problem he is ahving may very well have
    >>been caused by ignorance/abuse and if it isn't - may be covered under
    >>warranty.
    >>
    >>Do you know anything about the AWD system in a Subaru? Do you know why I
    >>wrote what I did?
    >>
    >>Please enlighten us as to Subaru's poor design. We're waiting for your
    >>expertise in the matter.
    >>
    >>Carl

    >
    > I would imagine he is referring to the cooling system, the fuel rails, the
    > electrical system, the crappy paint, the stereo amps that catch fire...thats
    > just for starts....
    > maybe thats what he is referring to.....
    >
    >


    I know of no brand that does not exhibit those same failures plus more.

    I own 2 Subarus have yet to experience any of those on your list.

    Still waiting for his expertise.

    Carl


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    bigjim@backpacker.com
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    Default Re: 2004 Forester rear differential shudder/chatter

    Try not giving gas as quick andsee what happens. My 04 OBW does
    something similar when I put it in drive and hit the gas immediately.
    It feels an awful lot like the rear wheels are engaging like in the
    snow. Remember the rear wheels are only getting 10% or so of the power
    normslly sand a quick start shift the weight of the car causing AWD to
    engage.

    frshippen@gmail.com wrote:
    > Hi- just got a 2004 Forester 2.5X w/ 20k miles, runs great, but noticed
    > that when I shift into drive and apply gas immediately (within 2-3
    > secs) there's a pronouced shudder from what feels like the rear end.
    > I'm guessing it's the AWD system getting the rear differential in snyc,
    > I've never had an AWD car, and I need to know if this is normal or
    > not???
    >
    > pls email as well as post- makeitwork@comcast.net
    >
    > thanks!
    > Reid



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    frshippen@gmail.com
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    new news- took it to subaru and they found some problem with the
    tranny, so they replaced it. seemed to fix the prob. then it did it
    again- once. i wasn't able to replicate it like i was before, but
    today i found that if i reverse on a hill, shift to drive and drive up
    the hill, it shudders. not heavy gas, not immediately gassing it when
    i shift, it's definately a fault. i've had the car to subaru as well
    as an indie mechanic and no one seems to think it's the tires although
    tommorrow morning i'll double-check.

    since it's under warranty i might just have them replace the whole
    drivetrain, what the hell. this may soon turn into a referendum on how
    good subaru's warranty service actually is.

    or i might just try to return it to carmax. i don't think i'll be
    shopping there again.

    reid


    bigjim@backpacker.com wrote:
    > Try not giving gas as quick andsee what happens. My 04 OBW does
    > something similar when I put it in drive and hit the gas immediately.
    > It feels an awful lot like the rear wheels are engaging like in the
    > snow. Remember the rear wheels are only getting 10% or so of the power
    > normslly sand a quick start shift the weight of the car causing AWD to
    > engage.
    >
    > frshippen@gmail.com wrote:
    > > Hi- just got a 2004 Forester 2.5X w/ 20k miles, runs great, but noticed
    > > that when I shift into drive and apply gas immediately (within 2-3
    > > secs) there's a pronouced shudder from what feels like the rear end.
    > > I'm guessing it's the AWD system getting the rear differential in snyc,
    > > I've never had an AWD car, and I need to know if this is normal or
    > > not???
    > >
    > > pls email as well as post- makeitwork@comcast.net
    > >
    > > thanks!
    > > Reid



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