houndman@phonom.net wrote:
> wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
> leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
> thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
> and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
> working.
>
> VF
>

The big question is WHY?

houndman@phonom.net wrote:
> On 12 Aug, 01:24, "nobody >" <inva...@email.death.by.spam> wrote:
>
>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>
>>> wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
>>>leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
>>>thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
>>>and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
>>>working.
>>
>>>VF
>>
>>The big question is WHY?
>
>
> used to be with nose heavy cars, especially FWD, the rear wheels would
> lock up when braking, and could make the rear come around, So first
> the car co's offered a manual brake fluid proportioning valve, so you
> could cut the fluid or pressure to the rear wheels, that you could
> buy from the parts dept. Guess they didn't have ABS figured out for
> cars, though they did for trucks.
>
> After skiding sideways off a highway, in a large FWD car, when
> hitting the brakes and turning the wheel. The rear wheels locked up
> and the show started. Slid across the opposite shoulder, down a grass
> enbankment, stopping 18" from a 24" dia tree, that was right next to
> me. I wouldn't drive the car any faster than I had to after that, and
> tried to avoid any emergency situations, since there might be a time
> or conditions, that I wouldn't be able to keep the car from doing
> 360's.
>
> All I had done to cause the slide was, decide not to try to continue
> to pass a camaro who wanted to race me when I got next to him, on a 2
> lane through a forrest, when I saw headlights pop up in the distance.
> I leaned on the brakes gently, and started to get back in the lane
> when the Camaro was ahead of me.
>
> I don't want the ABS at all, and would rather take my chances
> without it, and sometimes I Like to be able to lock the brakes, but I
> prefer having the fonts lock, not the rears. With the Subes supposedly
> tail happy, I'm feeling that ABS in the back may be an idea, like they
> did on pickups. I'd rather be to blame for a problem than the machine,
> and I haven't been yet.
>
> Maybe I'll just let some air into the rear brake lines, unless that
> will mess up the ABS system, and have No brakes.
>
> VF
>
>

You might try searching the Brake/Suspension forum at www.nasioc.com
and if no one has done it before, post a question as to how to disable
the front ABS.

Carl
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:

> houndman@phonom.net wrote:
>
>> On 12 Aug, 01:24, "nobody >" <inva...@email.death.by.spam> wrote:
>>
>>> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
>>>> leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
>>>> thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
>>>> and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
>>>> working.
>>>
>>>
>>>> VF
>>>
>>>
>>> The big question is WHY?
>>
>>
>>
>> used to be with nose heavy cars, especially FWD, the rear wheels would
>> lock up when braking, and could make the rear come around, So first
>> the car co's offered a manual brake fluid proportioning valve, so you
>> could cut the fluid or pressure to the rear wheels, that you could
>> buy from the parts dept. Guess they didn't have ABS figured out for
>> cars, though they did for trucks.
>>
>> After skiding sideways off a highway, in a large FWD car, when
>> hitting the brakes and turning the wheel. The rear wheels locked up
>> and the show started. Slid across the opposite shoulder, down a grass
>> enbankment, stopping 18" from a 24" dia tree, that was right next to
>> me. I wouldn't drive the car any faster than I had to after that, and
>> tried to avoid any emergency situations, since there might be a time
>> or conditions, that I wouldn't be able to keep the car from doing
>> 360's.
>>
>> All I had done to cause the slide was, decide not to try to continue
>> to pass a camaro who wanted to race me when I got next to him, on a 2
>> lane through a forrest, when I saw headlights pop up in the distance.
>> I leaned on the brakes gently, and started to get back in the lane
>> when the Camaro was ahead of me.
>>
>> I don't want the ABS at all, and would rather take my chances
>> without it, and sometimes I Like to be able to lock the brakes, but I
>> prefer having the fonts lock, not the rears. With the Subes supposedly
>> tail happy, I'm feeling that ABS in the back may be an idea, like they
>> did on pickups. I'd rather be to blame for a problem than the machine,
>> and I haven't been yet.
>>
>> Maybe I'll just let some air into the rear brake lines, unless that
>> will mess up the ABS system, and have No brakes.
>>
>> VF
>>
>>
>
> You might try searching the Brake/Suspension forum at www.nasioc.com
> and if no one has done it before, post a question as to how to disable
> the front ABS.
>
> Carl
> 1 Lucky Texan
>
>

Yeah, here are 12 threads. If you search inside these 12 for the word
'front' you may find some good info.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sear...rchid=10105489

Also, you might try the Motorsports forum. I bet autox-ers have tried
every ABS modification possible.

Carl


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houndman@phonom.net wrote:
> On 12 Aug, 13:53, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>
>>Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>
>>>>On 12 Aug, 01:24, "nobody >" <inva...@email.death.by.spam> wrote:
>>
>>>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>
>>>>>>wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
>>>>>>leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
>>>>>>thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
>>>>>>and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
>>>>>>working.
>>
>>>>>>VF
>>
>>>>>The big question is WHY?
>>
>>>>used to be with nose heavy cars, especially FWD, the rear wheels would
>>>>lock up when braking, and could make the rear come around, So first
>>>>the car co's offered a manual brake fluid proportioning valve, so you
>>>>could cut the fluid or pressure to the rear wheels, that you could
>>>>buy from the parts dept. Guess they didn't have ABS figured out for
>>>>cars, though they did for trucks.
>>
>>>> After skiding sideways off a highway, in a large FWD car, when
>>>>hitting the brakes and turning the wheel. The rear wheels locked up
>>>>and the show started. Slid across the opposite shoulder, down a grass
>>>>enbankment, stopping 18" from a 24" dia tree, that was right next to
>>>>me. I wouldn't drive the car any faster than I had to after that, and
>>>>tried to avoid any emergency situations, since there might be a time
>>>>or conditions, that I wouldn't be able to keep the car from doing
>>>>360's.
>>
>>>> All I had done to cause the slide was, decide not to try to continue
>>>>to pass a camaro who wanted to race me when I got next to him, on a 2
>>>>lane through a forrest, when I saw headlights pop up in the distance.
>>>>I leaned on the brakes gently, and started to get back in the lane
>>>>when the Camaro was ahead of me.
>>
>>>> I don't want the ABS at all, and would rather take my chances
>>>>without it, and sometimes I Like to be able to lock the brakes, but I
>>>>prefer having the fonts lock, not the rears. With the Subes supposedly
>>>>tail happy, I'm feeling that ABS in the back may be an idea, like they
>>>>did on pickups. I'd rather be to blame for a problem than the machine,
>>>>and I haven't been yet.
>>
>>>> Maybe I'll just let some air into the rear brake lines, unless that
>>>>will mess up the ABS system, and have No brakes.
>>
>>>>VF
>>
>>>You might try searching the Brake/Suspension forum atwww.nasioc.com
>>>and if no one has done it before, post a question as to how to disable
>>>the front ABS.
>>
>>>Carl
>>>1 Lucky Texan
>>
>>Yeah, here are 12 threads. If you search inside these 12 for the word
>>'front' you may find some good info.http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sear...rchid=10105489
>>
>>Also, you might try the Motorsports forum. I bet autox-ers have tried
>>every ABS modification possible.
>>
>>Carl
>>
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>
>
> You seem to know these Sube's or where to find things.)
>
> Haven't found what I am looking for yet, but learning some things,
> like how ABS works over bumps. Beautiful..(( Been delaying buying an
> 07' wagon, and don't like the 08' 5 door, and wondering what i might
> be getting myself into...
>
> VF
>

More 'book learnin' than experience. In addition to Rick and others that
lurk around here; I occasionally check in at www.nasioc.com and over at
www.ultimatesubaru.org , to get educated. Both good resources though
VERY different from each other.

(owner of '03 Outback wagon and '06 WRX wagon)

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On 12 Aug, 21:46, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> > On 12 Aug, 13:53, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>
> >>Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
>
> >>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
> >>>>On 12 Aug, 01:24, "nobody >" <inva...@email.death.by.spam> wrote:
>
> >>>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
> >>>>>>wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
> >>>>>>leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
> >>>>>>thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
> >>>>>>and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
> >>>>>>working.
>
> >>>>>>VF
>
> >>>>>The big question is WHY?
>
> >>>>used to be with nose heavy cars, especially FWD, the rear wheels would
> >>>>lock up when braking, and could make the rear come around, So first
> >>>>the car co's offered a manual brake fluid proportioning valve, so you
> >>>>could cut the fluid or pressure to the rear wheels, that you could
> >>>>buy from the parts dept. Guess they didn't have ABS figured out for
> >>>>cars, though they did for trucks.
>
> >>>> After skiding sideways off a highway, in a large FWD car, when
> >>>>hitting the brakes and turning the wheel. The rear wheels locked up
> >>>>and the show started. Slid across the opposite shoulder, down a grass
> >>>>enbankment, stopping 18" from a 24" dia tree, that was right next to
> >>>>me. I wouldn't drive the car any faster than I had to after that, and
> >>>>tried to avoid any emergency situations, since there might be a time
> >>>>or conditions, that I wouldn't be able to keep the car from doing
> >>>>360's.
>
> >>>> All I had done to cause the slide was, decide not to try to continue
> >>>>to pass a camaro who wanted to race me when I got next to him, on a 2
> >>>>lane through a forrest, when I saw headlights pop up in the distance.
> >>>>I leaned on the brakes gently, and started to get back in the lane
> >>>>when the Camaro was ahead of me.
>
> >>>> I don't want the ABS at all, and would rather take my chances
> >>>>without it, and sometimes I Like to be able to lock the brakes, but I
> >>>>prefer having the fonts lock, not the rears. With the Subes supposedly
> >>>>tail happy, I'm feeling that ABS in the back may be an idea, like they
> >>>>did on pickups. I'd rather be to blame for a problem than the machine,
> >>>>and I haven't been yet.
>
> >>>> Maybe I'll just let some air into the rear brake lines, unless that
> >>>>will mess up the ABS system, and have No brakes.
>
> >>>>VF
>
> >>>You might try searching the Brake/Suspension forum atwww.nasioc.com
> >>>and if no one has done it before, post a question as to how to disable
> >>>the front ABS.
>
> >>>Carl
> >>>1 Lucky Texan
>
> >>Yeah, here are 12 threads. If you search inside these 12 for the word
> >>'front' you may find some good info.http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sear...rchid=10105489
>
> >>Also, you might try the Motorsports forum. I bet autox-ers have tried
> >>every ABS modification possible.
>
> >>Carl
>
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>
> > You seem to know these Sube's or where to find things.)
>
> > Haven't found what I am looking for yet, but learning some things,
> > like how ABS works over bumps. Beautiful..(( Been delaying buying an
> > 07' wagon, and don't like the 08' 5 door, and wondering what i might
> > be getting myself into...
>
> > VF
>
> More 'book learnin' than experience. In addition to Rick and others that
> lurk around here; I occasionally check in atwww.nasioc.comand over atwww.ultimatesubaru.org, to get educated. Both good resources though
> VERY different from each other.
>
> (owner of '03 Outback wagon and '06 WRX wagon)
>
> Carl
>
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how do you like the WRX wagon? I can't decide between the 07' Impreza
2.5i and WRX wagon. Don't like the scoop and stiffness of the WRX,
but not sure the 2.5i is gona be enough power. Have to give it a good
test. Maybe the few mods for the 2.5i will be enough. Don't think
there are many left.

VF

houndman@phonom.net wrote:
> On 12 Aug, 21:46, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>
>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>
>>>On 12 Aug, 13:53, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>>
>>>>Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
>>
>>>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>
>>>>>>On 12 Aug, 01:24, "nobody >" <inva...@email.death.by.spam> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
>>>>>>>>leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
>>>>>>>>thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
>>>>>>>>and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
>>>>>>>>working.
>>
>>>>>>>>VF
>>
>>>>>>>The big question is WHY?
>>
>>>>>>used to be with nose heavy cars, especially FWD, the rear wheels would
>>>>>>lock up when braking, and could make the rear come around, So first
>>>>>>the car co's offered a manual brake fluid proportioning valve, so you
>>>>>>could cut the fluid or pressure to the rear wheels, that you could
>>>>>>buy from the parts dept. Guess they didn't have ABS figured out for
>>>>>>cars, though they did for trucks.
>>
>>>>>>After skiding sideways off a highway, in a large FWD car, when
>>>>>>hitting the brakes and turning the wheel. The rear wheels locked up
>>>>>>and the show started. Slid across the opposite shoulder, down a grass
>>>>>>enbankment, stopping 18" from a 24" dia tree, that was right next to
>>>>>>me. I wouldn't drive the car any faster than I had to after that, and
>>>>>>tried to avoid any emergency situations, since there might be a time
>>>>>>or conditions, that I wouldn't be able to keep the car from doing
>>>>>>360's.
>>
>>>>>>All I had done to cause the slide was, decide not to try to continue
>>>>>>to pass a camaro who wanted to race me when I got next to him, on a 2
>>>>>>lane through a forrest, when I saw headlights pop up in the distance.
>>>>>>I leaned on the brakes gently, and started to get back in the lane
>>>>>>when the Camaro was ahead of me.
>>
>>>>>> I don't want the ABS at all, and would rather take my chances
>>>>>>without it, and sometimes I Like to be able to lock the brakes, but I
>>>>>>prefer having the fonts lock, not the rears. With the Subes supposedly
>>>>>>tail happy, I'm feeling that ABS in the back may be an idea, like they
>>>>>>did on pickups. I'd rather be to blame for a problem than the machine,
>>>>>>and I haven't been yet.
>>
>>>>>> Maybe I'll just let some air into the rear brake lines, unless that
>>>>>>will mess up the ABS system, and have No brakes.
>>
>>>>>>VF
>>
>>>>>You might try searching the Brake/Suspension forum atwww.nasioc.com
>>>>>and if no one has done it before, post a question as to how to disable
>>>>>the front ABS.
>>
>>>>>Carl
>>>>>1 Lucky Texan
>>
>>>>Yeah, here are 12 threads. If you search inside these 12 for the word
>>>>'front' you may find some good info.http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sear...rchid=10105489
>>
>>>>Also, you might try the Motorsports forum. I bet autox-ers have tried
>>>>every ABS modification possible.
>>
>>>>Carl
>>
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>>
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>>
>>>You seem to know these Sube's or where to find things.)
>>
>>> Haven't found what I am looking for yet, but learning some things,
>>>like how ABS works over bumps. Beautiful..(( Been delaying buying an
>>>07' wagon, and don't like the 08' 5 door, and wondering what i might
>>>be getting myself into...
>>
>>>VF
>>
>>More 'book learnin' than experience. In addition to Rick and others that
>>lurk around here; I occasionally check in atwww.nasioc.comand over atwww.ultimatesubaru.org, to get educated. Both good resources though
>>VERY different from each other.
>>
>>(owner of '03 Outback wagon and '06 WRX wagon)
>>
>>Carl
>>
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>
>
> how do you like the WRX wagon? I can't decide between the 07' Impreza
> 2.5i and WRX wagon. Don't like the scoop and stiffness of the WRX,
> but not sure the 2.5i is gona be enough power. Have to give it a good
> test. Maybe the few mods for the 2.5i will be enough. Don't think
> there are many left.
>
> VF
>

Well, my WRX is even stiffer with the pink springs on now!
One Saturday I burned through 3/4 tank of fuel and half my brake pad
material at a local track - the next weekend I was hauling 380 pounds of
landscaping material with it. My 2 favorite cars I owned in the past
were a '69 datsun SRL 311 roadster and an '81 Honda Civic wagon - now I
have both in one vehicle!
I'd say, if you frequently carry a load and/or 2-3 other passengers PLUS
merging onto crazy freeways filled with crazy drivers - get the
WRX.(also, the WRX is gonna need premium fuel, the 2.5i maybe mid or low
grade is OK?)
Also, you check out turbo Forester? - probably rides better than the WRX
with almst the same power. As for beefing up the normally aspirated
engine in the 2.5i - there just isn't gonna be anything. maybe a pony or
2 with a muffler, maybe a pony or 2 with an intake. Then you're looking
at stuff like lightened crank and accessory pulleys, lightened flywheel.
There just isn't much 'modder/tuner' stuff for the engine. Of course,
plenty of suspension and braking bits will go on it.

good luck

Carl
1 Lucky Texan

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On 13 Aug, 02:19, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> > On 12 Aug, 21:46, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>
> >>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
> >>>On 12 Aug, 13:53, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>
> >>>>Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
>
> >>>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
> >>>>>>On 12 Aug, 01:24, "nobody >" <inva...@email.death.by.spam> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>wondering if the front ABS can be disconnected on an 07' Impreza
> >>>>>>>>leaving the rear working? I wanted to disconnect it all but got to
> >>>>>>>>thinking the rear will probably lock up like a FWD car without ABS,
> >>>>>>>>and that almost got me killed once, so would like to leave that
> >>>>>>>>working.
>
> >>>>>>>>VF
>
> >>>>>>>The big question is WHY?
>
> >>>>>>used to be with nose heavy cars, especially FWD, the rear wheels would
> >>>>>>lock up when braking, and could make the rear come around, So first
> >>>>>>the car co's offered a manual brake fluid proportioning valve, so you
> >>>>>>could cut the fluid or pressure to the rear wheels, that you could
> >>>>>>buy from the parts dept. Guess they didn't have ABS figured out for
> >>>>>>cars, though they did for trucks.
>
> >>>>>>After skiding sideways off a highway, in a large FWD car, when
> >>>>>>hitting the brakes and turning the wheel. The rear wheels locked up
> >>>>>>and the show started. Slid across the opposite shoulder, down a grass
> >>>>>>enbankment, stopping 18" from a 24" dia tree, that was right next to
> >>>>>>me. I wouldn't drive the car any faster than I had to after that, and
> >>>>>>tried to avoid any emergency situations, since there might be a time
> >>>>>>or conditions, that I wouldn't be able to keep the car from doing
> >>>>>>360's.
>
> >>>>>>All I had done to cause the slide was, decide not to try to continue
> >>>>>>to pass a camaro who wanted to race me when I got next to him, on a 2
> >>>>>>lane through a forrest, when I saw headlights pop up in the distance.
> >>>>>>I leaned on the brakes gently, and started to get back in the lane
> >>>>>>when the Camaro was ahead of me.
>
> >>>>>> I don't want the ABS at all, and would rather take my chances
> >>>>>>without it, and sometimes I Like to be able to lock the brakes, but I
> >>>>>>prefer having the fonts lock, not the rears. With the Subes supposedly
> >>>>>>tail happy, I'm feeling that ABS in the back may be an idea, like they
> >>>>>>did on pickups. I'd rather be to blame for a problem than the machine,
> >>>>>>and I haven't been yet.
>
> >>>>>> Maybe I'll just let some air into the rear brake lines, unless that
> >>>>>>will mess up the ABS system, and have No brakes.
>
> >>>>>>VF
>
> >>>>>You might try searching the Brake/Suspension forum atwww.nasioc.com
> >>>>>and if no one has done it before, post a question as to how to disable
> >>>>>the front ABS.
>
> >>>>>Carl
> >>>>>1 Lucky Texan
>
> >>>>Yeah, here are 12 threads. If you search inside these 12 for the word
> >>>>'front' you may find some good info.http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sear...rchid=10105489
>
> >>>>Also, you might try the Motorsports forum. I bet autox-ers have tried
> >>>>every ABS modification possible.
>
> >>>>Carl
>
> >>>>--
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>
> >>>>- Show quoted text -
>
> >>>You seem to know these Sube's or where to find things.)
>
> >>> Haven't found what I am looking for yet, but learning some things,
> >>>like how ABS works over bumps. Beautiful..(( Been delaying buying an
> >>>07' wagon, and don't like the 08' 5 door, and wondering what i might
> >>>be getting myself into...
>
> >>>VF
>
> >>More 'book learnin' than experience. In addition to Rick and others that
> >>lurk around here; I occasionally check in atwww.nasioc.comandover atwww.ultimatesubaru.org, to get educated. Both good resources though
> >>VERY different from each other.
>
> >>(owner of '03 Outback wagon and '06 WRX wagon)
>
> >>Carl
>
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>
> > how do you like the WRX wagon? I can't decide between the 07' Impreza
> > 2.5i and WRX wagon. Don't like the scoop and stiffness of the WRX,
> > but not sure the 2.5i is gona be enough power. Have to give it a good
> > test. Maybe the few mods for the 2.5i will be enough. Don't think
> > there are many left.
>
> > VF
>
> Well, my WRX is even stiffer with the pink springs on now!
> One Saturday I burned through 3/4 tank of fuel and half my brake pad
> material at a local track - the next weekend I was hauling 380 pounds of
> landscaping material with it. My 2 favorite cars I owned in the past
> were a '69 datsun SRL 311 roadster and an '81 Honda Civic wagon - now I
> have both in one vehicle!
> I'd say, if you frequently carry a load and/or 2-3 other passengers PLUS
> merging onto crazy freeways filled with crazy drivers - get the
> WRX.(also, the WRX is gonna need premium fuel, the 2.5i maybe mid or low
> grade is OK?)
> Also, you check out turbo Forester? - probably rides better than the WRX
> with almst the same power. As for beefing up the normally aspirated
> engine in the 2.5i - there just isn't gonna be anything. maybe a pony or
> 2 with a muffler, maybe a pony or 2 with an intake. Then you're looking
> at stuff like lightened crank and accessory pulleys, lightened flywheel.
> There just isn't much 'modder/tuner' stuff for the engine. Of course,
> plenty of suspension and braking bits will go on it.
>
> good luck
>
> Carl
> 1 Lucky Texan
>
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don't like the Forester much, and don't plan to carry weight, just
bulk, like a few 60 lb hounds, or some big cabinets, maybe. Think I
need to test the 2.5i on the road, to see how it moves at high revs.
Had a Merc Capri with their 75HP Kent engine, that got Netted to 54,
and that was decent on the road when you got the revs up in the higher
gears.It was a lighter car, but 173HP in the Sube should be OK, or
even better. I miss all the options you used to be able to get on Am
cars.

VF

On Aug 12, 2:22 pm, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> On 12 Aug, 13:53, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:

> Haven't found what I am looking for yet, but learning some things,
> like how ABS works over bumps. Beautiful..(( Been delaying

this is one reason to keep abs enabled on all 4.
i have a large(long) speed bump on the entrace to the complex
where i live and abs helps immensely to avoid the back
tires dragging on the speed bump when the front end left
the speed bump but the front tires haven't touched the ground
yet. i know it helps because my other car does not have
abs and the back tires are scraped against the speed bump when i'm
half done going over it. this is the only time when i wish
i had abs on that car though. the brakes on it are
way, way better than they are on my outback sport.

buying an
> 07' wagon, and don't like the 08' 5 door, and wondering what i might
> be getting myself into...
>
i don't recommend the basic impreza. i posted on numerous
occasions explaining why. in your case wrx will have
somewhat better brakes than 2.5i.
07 is 4 pot and 08 is 2 pot. what that does to the stopping
power i don't know. what i do know is that an aftermaket
set would set you back for $2k plus so choose carefully.
try fishing for the words "breaks" in the 08 impreza reviews
and compare the 70-0 stopping distances to 07.
post what you find here, especially if there is a regression
in stopping distance on wrx

On Aug 12, 11:02 pm, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
> don't like the Forester much, and don't plan to carry weight, just
> bulk, like a few 60 lb hounds, or some big cabinets, maybe.

make sure you can stick your cabinets into impreza thru
the tiny rear hatch first. i like the smallness of mine,
but make no mistake:
it's more difficult to shoehorn cargo in it than into a
legacy. fartster should be the easiest of the 3 to load.

Think I
> need to test the 2.5i on the road, to see how it moves at high revs.

at high revs it moves okay with the engine sounding like a file
going over some metal. the problem is that the displacement
is relatively large and (therefore?) it takes a long
long time to get that engine to the high revs
which pisses me off a lot in city driving.
wrx should start to pull sooner and irritate the driver
less. but by all means see if the basic 2.5i will suit your
needs. maybe you are just not as irritable as i am

> Had a Merc Capri with their 75HP Kent engine, that got Netted to 54,
> and that was decent on the road when you got the revs up in the higher
> gears.It was a lighter car, but 173HP in the Sube should be OK,

back in 05 the 5th gear was very, very tall and automatic
is probably even worse and 06/07 is likely no better,
so i very very much doubt
you'd ever get close to extracting 173hp in 5th even when you
get close to the (drag limited) top speed.

not a problem for me since i'm used to the chess game of
lane changes on the freeway, but if you like muscle your
way in 300-style get a rex
(reportedly there is enough passing power in 5th on a rex from 06 on).

the 2.5i is geared so much towards economy that those 2.5
liters on freeway feel as if there is a two cylinder deactivation
installed on that car. if you cruise at 65 that is.
if you typically go around 80-90 the 5th should feel just
about right, but i get mentally f&#ed by my wife over
a possible leo-in-hibernation-by-the-roadside issue when i
do that, so i don't remember how cruising at
decent speed feels like.

it looks like the gearbox on imprezas
is tailored to the rex and the basic
impreza gets the same ratios despite having a completely
different engine. get the owners manual for 07 and 08
and see if the gearing specs for 2.5i and wrx are even
there at all. that should help eliminating buyer's remorse
along the lines of:
f&*ck! i got the car in the wrong trim!

On 13 Aug, 17:00, isq...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 12, 11:02 pm, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > don't like the Forester much, and don't plan to carry weight, just
> > bulk, like a few 60 lb hounds, or some big cabinets, maybe.
>
> make sure you can stick your cabinets into impreza thru
> the tiny rear hatch first. i like the smallness of mine,
> but make no mistake:
> it's more difficult to shoehorn cargo in it than into a
> legacy. fartster should be the easiest of the 3 to load.
>
> Think I
>
> > need to test the 2.5i on the road, to see how it moves at high revs.
>
> at high revs it moves okay with the engine sounding like a file
> going over some metal. the problem is that the displacement
> is relatively large and (therefore?) it takes a long
> long time to get that engine to the high revs
> which pisses me off a lot in city driving.
> wrx should start to pull sooner and irritate the driver
> less. but by all means see if the basic 2.5i will suit your
> needs. maybe you are just not as irritable as i am
>
> > Had a Merc Capri with their 75HP Kent engine, that got Netted to 54,
> > and that was decent on the road when you got the revs up in the higher
> > gears.It was a lighter car, but 173HP in the Sube should be OK,
>
> back in 05 the 5th gear was very, very tall and automatic
> is probably even worse and 06/07 is likely no better,
> so i very very much doubt
> you'd ever get close to extracting 173hp in 5th even when you
> get close to the (drag limited) top speed.
>
> not a problem for me since i'm used to the chess game of
> lane changes on the freeway, but if you like muscle your
> way in 300-style get a rex
> (reportedly there is enough passing power in 5th on a rex from 06 on).
>
> the 2.5i is geared so much towards economy that those 2.5
> liters on freeway feel as if there is a two cylinder deactivation
> installed on that car. if you cruise at 65 that is.
> if you typically go around 80-90 the 5th should feel just
> about right, but i get mentally f&#ed by my wife over
> a possible leo-in-hibernation-by-the-roadside issue when i
> do that, so i don't remember how cruising at
> decent speed feels like.
>
> it looks like the gearbox on imprezas
> is tailored to the rex and the basic
> impreza gets the same ratios despite having a completely
> different engine. get the owners manual for 07 and 08
> and see if the gearing specs for 2.5i and wrx are even
> there at all. that should help eliminating buyer's remorse
> along the lines of:
> f&*ck! i got the car in the wrong trim!

I like the smallness of the Impreza's, and the interior will only fit
2 dog crates if turned sideways, which would be hard getting them
into, and out of, but 2 will usually go into one crate, and can get a
bigger crate, that is if I crate them. The cabinet I want to carry
will fit, as will telescopes.

Will have to drive the car on the road for sure now.

VF