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Old 08-16-2007, 04:05 PM
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Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping out
after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
.. . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is such a
thing?
I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...



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Old 08-16-2007, 05:51 PM
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Care to share with us any of the symptoms which have caused you to ask the
question? Might possibly be a help to somebody and send you in a more
logical direction.

~Brian

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> Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping out
> after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
> . . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is such
> a
> thing?
> I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...
>
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:14 AM
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My shop had the Justy for 5 weeks and could not locate the component that
was 'droppping out'. They replaced the distributor, coil and attached
module, and a few other components.
.. . .The 'check engine' light is usually on, unless it is a very cold
morning. The problem has been isolated to ignition. The code readings are
'fuel mixture solenoid'. I purchased another used one (top half of the
carb) 3 years ago, and it made no difference. I had a foreign vehicle
specialist work on it and he discovered both 'fuel mixture solenoids' were
functioning properly and the 'empty bowl' sensors were also
okay.
Initially, the car starts with no problems. But after running about 12
minutes, it quits. If I park it before it quits, the 'latent' engine heat
is enough to keep it from starting for about 15 minutes. If I try to start
it after it has been parked, after a run, it takes about 15-20 minutes. It
also seems the more I try to start it, unsuccessfully, it prolongs the
'wait' time before it starts. Usually when I get towed home, it starts
about one block from my house.
.. . ..There is a transformer located in the engine compartment, on the right
fender well, that I believe may be a power supply/stablizer for the
computer...Car is 4 speed, and not injected. When it runs, it is a dream...
when it stalls, it is a study in patience.. . .thanks.
*********************
"strchild" <strchild@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Care to share with us any of the symptoms which have caused you to ask the
> question? Might possibly be a help to somebody and send you in a more
> logical direction.
>
> ~Brian
>
> "theChas." <footboarder@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> > Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping

out
> > after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
> > . . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is

such
> > a
> > thing?
> > I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...




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Old 08-17-2007, 05:36 AM
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theChas. wrote:
> My shop had the Justy for 5 weeks and could not locate the component that
> was 'droppping out'. They replaced the distributor, coil and attached
> module, and a few other components.
> . . .The 'check engine' light is usually on, unless it is a very cold
> morning. The problem has been isolated to ignition. The code readings are
> 'fuel mixture solenoid'. I purchased another used one (top half of the
> carb) 3 years ago, and it made no difference. I had a foreign vehicle
> specialist work on it and he discovered both 'fuel mixture solenoids' were
> functioning properly and the 'empty bowl' sensors were also
> okay.
> Initially, the car starts with no problems. But after running about 12
> minutes, it quits. If I park it before it quits, the 'latent' engine heat
> is enough to keep it from starting for about 15 minutes. If I try to start
> it after it has been parked, after a run, it takes about 15-20 minutes. It
> also seems the more I try to start it, unsuccessfully, it prolongs the
> 'wait' time before it starts. Usually when I get towed home, it starts
> about one block from my house.
> . . ..There is a transformer located in the engine compartment, on the right
> fender well, that I believe may be a power supply/stablizer for the
> computer...Car is 4 speed, and not injected. When it runs, it is a dream...
> when it stalls, it is a study in patience.. . .thanks.
> *********************
> "strchild" <strchild@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>Care to share with us any of the symptoms which have caused you to ask the
>>question? Might possibly be a help to somebody and send you in a more
>>logical direction.
>>
>>~Brian
>>
>>"theChas." <footboarder@bresnan.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping

>
> out
>
>>>after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
>>>. . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is

>
> such
>
>>>a
>>>thing?
>>>I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...

>
>
>
>


Hmmm...I can only point you to www.ultimatesubaru.org as another
possible resource for help.

Carl


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Old 08-17-2007, 09:56 AM
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:

>theChas. wrote:
>> My shop had the Justy for 5 weeks and could not locate the component

that
>> was 'droppping out'. They replaced the distributor, coil and attached
>> module, and a few other components.
>> . . .The 'check engine' light is usually on, unless it is a very cold
>> morning. The problem has been isolated to ignition. The code readings

are
>> 'fuel mixture solenoid'. I purchased another used one (top half of

the
>> carb) 3 years ago, and it made no difference. I had a foreign vehicle
>> specialist work on it and he discovered both 'fuel mixture solenoids'

were
>> functioning properly and the 'empty bowl' sensors were also
>> okay.
>> Initially, the car starts with no problems. But after running

about 12
>> minutes, it quits. If I park it before it quits, the 'latent' engine

heat
>> is enough to keep it from starting for about 15 minutes. If I try to

start
>> it after it has been parked, after a run, it takes about 15-20 minutes.


It
>> also seems the more I try to start it, unsuccessfully, it prolongs the
>> 'wait' time before it starts. Usually when I get towed home, it

starts
>> about one block from my house.
>> . . ..There is a transformer located in the engine compartment, on the

right
>> fender well, that I believe may be a power supply/stablizer for the
>> computer...Car is 4 speed, and not injected. When it runs, it is a

dream...
>> when it stalls, it is a study in patience.. . .thanks.
>> *********************
>> "strchild" <strchild@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>Care to share with us any of the symptoms which have caused you to ask

the
>>>question? Might possibly be a help to somebody and send you in a more
>>>logical direction.
>>>
>>>~Brian
>>>
>>>"theChas." <footboarder@bresnan.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping

>>
>> out
>>
>>>>after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
>>>>. . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is

>>
>> such
>>
>>>>a
>>>>thing?
>>>>I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...

>>
>>
>>
>>


>Hmmm...I can only point you to www.ultimatesubaru.org as another
>possible resource for help.


>Carl


Probably no help but if I had an old Saab 900 doing something like this
I'd be substituting the fuel pump relay; but being a Justy I don't even
know if it has one! Cheers

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Old 08-17-2007, 09:56 AM
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hippo wrote:
> Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
>
>> theChas. wrote:
>>> My shop had the Justy for 5 weeks and could not locate the component

> that
>>> was 'droppping out'. They replaced the distributor, coil and attached
>>> module, and a few other components.
>>> . . .The 'check engine' light is usually on, unless it is a very cold
>>> morning. The problem has been isolated to ignition. The code readings

> are
>>> 'fuel mixture solenoid'. I purchased another used one (top half of

> the
>>> carb) 3 years ago, and it made no difference. I had a foreign vehicle
>>> specialist work on it and he discovered both 'fuel mixture solenoids'

> were
>>> functioning properly and the 'empty bowl' sensors were also
>>> okay.
>>> Initially, the car starts with no problems. But after running

> about 12
>>> minutes, it quits. If I park it before it quits, the 'latent' engine

> heat
>>> is enough to keep it from starting for about 15 minutes. If I try to

> start
>>> it after it has been parked, after a run, it takes about 15-20 minutes.

>
> It
>>> also seems the more I try to start it, unsuccessfully, it prolongs the
>>> 'wait' time before it starts. Usually when I get towed home, it

> starts
>>> about one block from my house.
>>> . . ..There is a transformer located in the engine compartment, on the

> right
>>> fender well, that I believe may be a power supply/stablizer for the
>>> computer...Car is 4 speed, and not injected. When it runs, it is a

> dream...
>>> when it stalls, it is a study in patience.. . .thanks.
>>> *********************
>>> "strchild" <strchild@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Care to share with us any of the symptoms which have caused you to ask

> the
>>>> question? Might possibly be a help to somebody and send you in a more
>>>> logical direction.
>>>>
>>>> ~Brian
>>>>
>>>> "theChas." <footboarder@bresnan.net> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping
>>> out
>>>
>>>>> after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
>>>>> . . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is
>>> such
>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> thing?
>>>>> I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>> Hmmm...I can only point you to www.ultimatesubaru.org as another
>> possible resource for help.

>
>> Carl

>
> Probably no help but if I had an old Saab 900 doing something like this
> I'd be substituting the fuel pump relay; but being a Justy I don't even
> know if it has one! Cheers
>

My thoughts too

With the symptoms you described have you checked the fuel filter and the
flow from fuel pump.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:37 PM
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Bugalugs wrote:
> hippo wrote:
>
>> Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
>>
>>
>>> theChas. wrote:
>>>
>>>> My shop had the Justy for 5 weeks and could not locate the component

>>
>> that
>>
>>>> was 'droppping out'. They replaced the distributor, coil and attached
>>>> module, and a few other components.
>>>> . . .The 'check engine' light is usually on, unless it is a very cold
>>>> morning. The problem has been isolated to ignition. The code readings

>>
>> are
>>
>>>> 'fuel mixture solenoid'. I purchased another used one (top half of

>>
>> the
>>
>>>> carb) 3 years ago, and it made no difference. I had a foreign vehicle
>>>> specialist work on it and he discovered both 'fuel mixture solenoids'

>>
>> were
>>
>>>> functioning properly and the 'empty bowl' sensors were also
>>>> okay.
>>>> Initially, the car starts with no problems. But after running

>>
>> about 12
>>
>>>> minutes, it quits. If I park it before it quits, the 'latent' engine

>>
>> heat
>>
>>>> is enough to keep it from starting for about 15 minutes. If I try to

>>
>> start
>>
>>>> it after it has been parked, after a run, it takes about 15-20 minutes.

>>
>>
>> It
>>
>>>> also seems the more I try to start it, unsuccessfully, it prolongs the
>>>> 'wait' time before it starts. Usually when I get towed home, it

>>
>> starts
>>
>>>> about one block from my house.
>>>> . . ..There is a transformer located in the engine compartment, on the

>>
>> right
>>
>>>> fender well, that I believe may be a power supply/stablizer for the
>>>> computer...Car is 4 speed, and not injected. When it runs, it is a

>>
>> dream...
>>
>>>> when it stalls, it is a study in patience.. . .thanks.
>>>> *********************
>>>> "strchild" <strchild@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Care to share with us any of the symptoms which have caused you to ask

>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> question? Might possibly be a help to somebody and send you in a more
>>>>> logical direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> "theChas." <footboarder@bresnan.net> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there an electroic component in a '89 Justy that could be dropping
>>>>
>>>> out
>>>>
>>>>>> after about a quarter of an hour of running time?
>>>>>> . . . .Or such a component on the computer power supply, is there is
>>>>
>>>> such
>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> thing?
>>>>>> I hate to take freon and go looking for the beast. TIA...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>> Hmmm...I can only point you to www.ultimatesubaru.org as another
>>> possible resource for help.

>>
>>
>>> Carl

>>
>>
>> Probably no help but if I had an old Saab 900 doing something like this
>> I'd be substituting the fuel pump relay; but being a Justy I don't even
>> know if it has one! Cheers
>>

> My thoughts too
>
> With the symptoms you described have you checked the fuel filter and the
> flow from fuel pump.


Good points. Um - after it warms up and fails, are you missing fuel or
'fire'?


Carl


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Old 08-17-2007, 03:52 PM
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Electric fuel pump, and filter (located underside of car under drivers
seat), are not the problem...it is strickly ignition electronics. Not vapor
locking either.
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> Good points. Um - after it warms up and fails, are you missing fuel or
> 'fire'?
> Carl




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