houndman@phonom.net wrote:

> Picked up the car yesterday. They said the brakes and clutch are OK.
> Drove another before taking it, and it had a slighty firmer pedal, and
> the clutch grabbed a bit higher. Since they said it was fine, I took
> it, figuring I'D have to adjust things, If I could. Read you have to
> go into the computer to open valves in the ABS to bleed the system.
>
> Car was Really noisy on the road. I had driven it a good bit a few
> days ago, and it wasn't loud. Maybe the different roads are the
> reason, or maybe I had a window cracked open. Lots of New fangled
> gizmos to learn how to use.
>
> I live in a big Old city, in a small street, and trying to protect
> the car from all the attacks. Cover I bought doesn't fit, so have to
> find obne that does. This isn't my primary car. Just for some driving
> fun.
>
> VF
>
Dunno what tires shipped on your car, but my Kumhos are noticeably
quieter than the stock Bridgestones were.

have fun but be careful!

Carl (wagons rule!)



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On 30 Aug, 02:39, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> > Picked up the car yesterday. They said the brakes and clutch are OK.
> > Drove another before taking it, and it had a slighty firmer pedal, and
> > the clutch grabbed a bit higher. Since they said it was fine, I took
> > it, figuring I'D have to adjust things, If I could. Read you have to
> > go into the computer to open valves in the ABS to bleed the system.
>
> > Car was Really noisy on the road. I had driven it a good bit a few
> > days ago, and it wasn't loud. Maybe the different roads are the
> > reason, or maybe I had a window cracked open. Lots of New fangled
> > gizmos to learn how to use.
>
> > I live in a big Old city, in a small street, and trying to protect
> > the car from all the attacks. Cover I bought doesn't fit, so have to
> > find obne that does. This isn't my primary car. Just for some driving
> > fun.
>
> > VF
>
> Dunno what tires shipped on your car, but my Kumhos are noticeably
> quieter than the stock Bridgestones were.
>
> have fun but be careful!
>
> Carl (wagons rule!)
>
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It has the Bridgestones. I thought they all came with them.

I have felt that different ties on the different axles of cars
changed the steering and handling, and thought about it for some of
the things I have heard about Sube's, understeer and the rear coming
loose easily, but it mght be different on an AWD car. This weekend I
will give it a good test, in the daytime, where I can see the road
surface better. I was going over a bridge when I noticed it the most,
and coming back over it. I noticed there was road work being done.

Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
one.

Being careful till I know the car, and what it can do, gradually.))

VF

houndman@phonom.net wrote:
> On 30 Aug, 02:39, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
>> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>>> Picked up the car yesterday. They said the brakes and clutch are OK.
>>> Drove another before taking it, and it had a slighty firmer pedal, and
>>> the clutch grabbed a bit higher. Since they said it was fine, I took
>>> it, figuring I'D have to adjust things, If I could. Read you have to
>>> go into the computer to open valves in the ABS to bleed the system.
>>> Car was Really noisy on the road. I had driven it a good bit a few
>>> days ago, and it wasn't loud. Maybe the different roads are the
>>> reason, or maybe I had a window cracked open. Lots of New fangled
>>> gizmos to learn how to use.
>>> I live in a big Old city, in a small street, and trying to protect
>>> the car from all the attacks. Cover I bought doesn't fit, so have to
>>> find obne that does. This isn't my primary car. Just for some driving
>>> fun.
>>> VF
>> Dunno what tires shipped on your car, but my Kumhos are noticeably
>> quieter than the stock Bridgestones were.
>>
>> have fun but be careful!
>>
>> Carl (wagons rule!)
>>
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>
> It has the Bridgestones. I thought they all came with them.
>
> I have felt that different ties on the different axles of cars
> changed the steering and handling, and thought about it for some of
> the things I have heard about Sube's, understeer and the rear coming
> loose easily,

That's rubbish. you'd have to be pushing really really really hard for
that to happen.



but it mght be different on an AWD car. This weekend I
> will give it a good test, in the daytime, where I can see the road
> surface better. I was going over a bridge when I noticed it the most,
> and coming back over it. I noticed there was road work being done.
>
> Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
> one.
>
> Being careful till I know the car, and what it can do, gradually.))
>
> VF
>
>

You appear to be getting too much uninformed advice/comment from some
people who got it from their little ol granny who heard it 3rd hand from
someone else in the rest home

On 30 Aug, 06:56, Bugalugs <bugalug...@netscape.net!> wrote:
> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> > On 30 Aug, 02:39, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky...@swbell.not> wrote:
> >> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> >>> Picked up the car yesterday. They said the brakes and clutch are OK.
> >>> Drove another before taking it, and it had a slighty firmer pedal, and
> >>> the clutch grabbed a bit higher. Since they said it was fine, I took
> >>> it, figuring I'D have to adjust things, If I could. Read you have to
> >>> go into the computer to open valves in the ABS to bleed the system.
> >>> Car was Really noisy on the road. I had driven it a good bit a few
> >>> days ago, and it wasn't loud. Maybe the different roads are the
> >>> reason, or maybe I had a window cracked open. Lots of New fangled
> >>> gizmos to learn how to use.
> >>> I live in a big Old city, in a small street, and trying to protect
> >>> the car from all the attacks. Cover I bought doesn't fit, so have to
> >>> find obne that does. This isn't my primary car. Just for some driving
> >>> fun.
> >>> VF
> >> Dunno what tires shipped on your car, but my Kumhos are noticeably
> >> quieter than the stock Bridgestones were.
>
> >> have fun but be careful!
>
> >> Carl (wagons rule!)
>
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>
> > It has the Bridgestones. I thought they all came with them.
>
> > I have felt that different ties on the different axles of cars
> > changed the steering and handling, and thought about it for some of
> > the things I have heard about Sube's, understeer and the rear coming
> > loose easily,
>
> That's rubbish. you'd have to be pushing really really really hard for
> that to happen.
>
> but it mght be different on an AWD car. This weekend I
>
> > will give it a good test, in the daytime, where I can see the road
> > surface better. I was going over a bridge when I noticed it the most,
> > and coming back over it. I noticed there was road work being done.
>
> > Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
> > one.
>
> > Being careful till I know the car, and what it can do, gradually.))
>
> > VF
>
> You appear to be getting too much uninformed advice/comment from some
> people who got it from their little ol granny who heard it 3rd hand from
> someone else in the rest home - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've been in the rest home long enough to know who to believe when it
comes to things that go, boom chikie boom. Ozwald's hearing aide is
noisy, so can't go by what he says. Hannah hears voices, so can't go
by her. Mickey talks to himself, so he is out, but Rob. He used to
work for Henry, and he knows those Model T's inside out.

FV

houndman@phonom.net wrote:

> Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
> one.
>
> Being careful till I know the car, and what it can do, gradually.))
>
> VF
>
>

When you find an empty parking lot with snow.. the hell with "gradually"!

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:34:27 -0700, houndman@phonom.net wrote:

>On 3 Sep, 20:44, "nobody >" <usenetharves...@aol.com> wrote:
>> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>> > Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
>> > one.
>>
>> > Being careful till I know the car, and what it can do, gradually.))
>>
>> > VF
>>
>> When you find an empty parking lot with snow.. the hell with "gradually"!
>
> I used to practice skidding on ice in empty parking lots after I
>slid through a red light, coming down a hill. Luckily it was 3AM with
>no traffic. I got So good, that I stopped for a light on a crowded,
>icy downhill street, and the car behind me plowed into me. Now I check
>the mirror on all surfaces, and if the car doesn't look like it is
>going to stop, I am looking for an escape.(( I will be trying the Sube
>on all kinds of slick surfaces, to learn what it will do.
>
>VF
I seriously doubt that on slippery ice you can brake better than an
ABS.

On 4 Sep, 13:15, David <rick...@knac.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:34:27 -0700, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> >On 3 Sep, 20:44, "nobody >" <usenetharves...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> >> > Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
> >> > one.
>
> >> > Being careful till I know the car, and what it can do, gradually.))
>
> >> > VF
>
> >> When you find an empty parking lot with snow.. the hell with "gradually"!
>
> > I used to practice skidding on ice in empty parking lots after I
> >slid through a red light, coming down a hill. Luckily it was 3AM with
> >no traffic. I got So good, that I stopped for a light on a crowded,
> >icy downhill street, and the car behind me plowed into me. Now I check
> >the mirror on all surfaces, and if the car doesn't look like it is
> >going to stop, I am looking for an escape.(( I will be trying the Sube
> >on all kinds of slick surfaces, to learn what it will do.
>
> >VF
>
> I seriously doubt that on slippery ice you can brake better than an
> ABS.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

well, I read that you can. I Thought I wanted a switch to turn the ABS
on when icy, but now I'm not sure. Guess I have to Test.))

In cities, every intersection can be ice up when it snows, from
braking and accelerating for traffic lights and stop signs. I often
apply the brakes hard just to see what the traction is, mid block or
getting close to the corner, to figure how fast I should drive, or how
hard it will be to stop. I will brake hard on roads with no one close,
if I can't tell the traction there also. I also like to learn if one
tire will grab better which could cause a spin, or one wheel locks
before the others.

VF

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:07:32 -0700, houndman@phonom.net wrote:

>On 4 Sep, 13:15, David <rick...@knac.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:34:27 -0700, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>> >On 3 Sep, 20:44, "nobody >" <usenetharves...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>> >> > Wagons are great. I have had a full sized one, and now have a sporty
>> >> > one.

> In cities, every intersection can be ice up when it snows, from
>braking and accelerating for traffic lights and stop signs. I often
>apply the brakes hard just to see what the traction is, mid block or
>getting close to the corner, to figure how fast I should drive, or how
>hard it will be to stop. I will brake hard on roads with no one close,
>if I can't tell the traction there also. I also like to learn if one
>tire will grab better which could cause a spin, or one wheel locks
>before the others.
>
>VF
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