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Old 10-21-2007, 10:46 AM
houndman@phonom.net
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On 7 Oct, 16:51, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> Was in Pep Boys the other day and looked for the filters for the Sube.
> Do they make a Smaller one?? I looked for longer ones and only found
> one a bit longer, but the threaded hole was smaller. I have a bunch I
> had bought for an old Capri that may fit, but guess I should use a
> Sube part during warranty, since I'll probably be changing my own oil.
>
> My V-6 Chevy has a small filter, but I found one 2X as long that
> works.
>
> VF




Rick,

I can understand what you are saying, but I'd still want bigger if I
can get it. If not I'll probably be changing filters more often. I run
a little keroscene into where oil goes, or the PCV hole on the other
bank of my V-6 to flush out as much dirt or dirty oil that I can. The
oil looks cleaner longer, and I feel better.))

VF

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Old 10-21-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Sube Oil Filters

On 21 Oct 2007 00:58:37 -0700, houndman@phonom.net wrote:

>On 7 Oct, 16:51, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>> Was in Pep Boys the other day and looked for the filters for the Sube.
>> Do they make a Smaller one?? I looked for longer ones and only found
>> one a bit longer, but the threaded hole was smaller. I have a bunch I
>> had bought for an old Capri that may fit, but guess I should use a
>> Sube part during warranty, since I'll probably be changing my own oil.
>>
>> My V-6 Chevy has a small filter, but I found one 2X as long that
>> works.
>>
>> VF

>
>
>
>Rick,
>
>I can understand what you are saying, but I'd still want bigger if I
>can get it. If not I'll probably be changing filters more often. I run
>a little keroscene into where oil goes, or the PCV hole on the other
>bank of my V-6 to flush out as much dirt or dirty oil that I can. The
>oil looks cleaner longer, and I feel better.))
>
>VF

Why not use an old speedometer cable to clean out the oil passages?
Maybe race the engine while a friend slowly pours some Dexron into the
air intake?

You are a one-man disaster. Why do you think you know more than
people who get six figures a year perfecting cutting-edge automobiles?
What makes you think your antique auto sensibilities are at all
relevant in this age of very tight tolerances and EPA gudelines?

When did you lose faith?
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:57 AM
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On 21 Oct, 12:50, David <rick...@knac.com> wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2007 00:58:37 -0700, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 7 Oct, 16:51, hound...@phonom.net wrote:
> >> Was in Pep Boys the other day and looked for the filters for the Sube.
> >> Do they make a Smaller one?? I looked for longer ones and only found
> >> one a bit longer, but the threaded hole was smaller. I have a bunch I
> >> had bought for an old Capri that may fit, but guess I should use a
> >> Sube part during warranty, since I'll probably be changing my own oil.

>
> >> My V-6 Chevy has a small filter, but I found one 2X as long that
> >> works.

>
> >> VF

>
> >Rick,

>
> >I can understand what you are saying, but I'd still want bigger if I
> >can get it. If not I'll probably be changing filters more often. I run
> >a little keroscene into where oil goes, or the PCV hole on the other
> >bank of my V-6 to flush out as much dirt or dirty oil that I can. The
> >oil looks cleaner longer, and I feel better.))

>
> >VF

>
> Why not use an old speedometer cable to clean out the oil passages?
> Maybe race the engine while a friend slowly pours some Dexron into the
> air intake?
>
> You are a one-man disaster. Why do you think you know more than
> people who get six figures a year perfecting cutting-edge automobiles?
> What makes you think your antique auto sensibilities are at all
> relevant in this age of very tight tolerances and EPA gudelines?
>
> When did you lose faith?



WHY would I use a speedometer cable to clean out oil passages, when I
am Flushing Old, Dirty oil out of a crankcase? You sound like you know
Something, but NOT Everything.)))

I won't get into the Dexron thing, since That's a Different story. I
Did Once rod out the return holes on a car that they were completely
plugged and the oil had to spill over into the valley, and Bypass the
oil pump pickup screen that was Sludged Closed, in a car I picked up
that had 100K+ miles and all short trip driving, when it lost oil
pressure. I was ready to replace the oil pump, but didn't feel like
removing the crossmember, so looked for an easier cure. Thinking the
pickup screen may have been plugged with All the sludge that was in
the motor, I drilled a hole through the cup that held the screen that
I could see through the oil drain hole, back flushed it with crankcase
cleaner, with an oil squirt can, till the flush came out as fast as it
went in. replaced the plug, filled it with oil, and drove it for
another 6yrs.

So You think it is Such a Bad thing to flush all the old dirty, acidy
oil you can, and Want a bigger filter ? To each his own. Maybe little
guys like little filters, and BIG guys like Big ones. I heard enough
talk on this NG about how BAD Sube engineering is, with their head
gasket, stop leak cures, and hear about recalls of ALL the mfgs, that
I Wouldn't take Any Bean counters ideas as gospel.

I have a friend who will Only use synthetic oil, and another who
thinks it is a waste of money. I on the other hand consider the
benefits and cost. If I had a turbo I would Definetly use if, but
without.. for Now, I'm debating. From things that I read, and getting
it for 1.50$/qt, I may go with synthetic, and use what I drain from
the Sube in my old Chevy, since I Believe it will be good for More
than 7500 miles, and the Chevy uses a little oil between changes, so
can juggle fresh and old, and have the costs reasonable, even at 5$/
qt.

The head gasket problem gave me some hesitation about buying a Sube,
But the plan was to change More than simple things, but the motor and
maybe Whole drivetrain in the future. I didn't get really interested
in a Sube though I have looked at them for many years, After seeing
the WRX come into europe, because I wanted a High performance station
wagon. What got me into a dealers was seeing a vid of the Leitchfield
T-25 STI. That Really got me thinking. The Wrx liked to break my back
on a 1mi test drive in the city, and the "i" rattled my teeth till I
made it tolerable, SO what the engineers put together didn't and Won't
work for me. I couldn't find out whether a WRX or STI had any stronger
internals than a 2.5i. Sube Wouldn't answer me, and on a forum someone
said that they were told the Rods were Forged Aluminum an the pistons
Cast Iron!!!??? From my contact with Sube they Didn't want to say. I
read that ALL sube cranks are Forged, and All pistions are
hyperutechic. Except for the open deck and higher compression of the
"i" I didn't see that much to gain getting a WRX, if I was thinking of
a Cosworth motor. Especially with injury limitations that make me Not
Able to drive my old Chevy to it's limits often, but Sometimes I Can,
and it gives me hope, so I dream and plan.

Now if I can Never do all I want to, WHY would I Want to mess up a
new car, or Feel that I Might be. I can afford Anything I may want,
but even parking a 16K$ Sube on the city streets has me stressed,
since I don't need to be doing body work to a New car, I did That
enough. I was Trying to wait till I moved out of the city, but Sube
changed the 08' Impreza, and dropped the wagon, and the 5 door looks
like a baby carridge to me, and I wanted a stick. I Amost bought a
mint looking 86' Mustang SVO I went to look at on my way to the last
Sube dealer, but there were a few issues. Could of had had what I've
wanted for 20yrs, for half the price of the Sube. one thing it has is
Much better Recaro seats, so I bought a pair to put in the Sube. Best
of Both Worlds?? The Stang also has a High rear sill, so not as
convient as a wagon, though a hatch is almost as good, but the wagon
has more headroom for hounds.

I have been planning for 20yrs since my injury, and Still don't think
I can physically manage what I want to, living in the country, where I
Would have that Leitchfield, "VF" Like Sube, and an 86' Mustang SVO,
and maybe a Ferrar.... well, a minivan for the hounds, a pickup for
the horses hay, and whatever else I wanted.

Shame I Don't trust engineers, I've Seen and experienced Some of
their mistakes, and try to minimize Or Improve on Their designs so
they FIT ME!! You call it a disaster, and I call it Cooool... Some
people Don't understand or Don't have the info and knowledge I seek.
but Some Do...
So I search, to Do Things Right... the way I want them. I Always Did
and Always Will, or I Wouldn't be satisfied.))

VF







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Old 10-22-2007, 01:55 PM
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:16:38 -0700, houndman@phonom.net wrote:

>
> Shame I Don't trust engineers, I've Seen and experienced Some of
>their mistakes, and try to minimize Or Improve on Their designs so
>they FIT ME!! You call it a disaster, and I call it Cooool... Some
>people Don't understand or Don't have the info and knowledge I seek.
>but Some Do...
>So I search, to Do Things Right... the way I want them. I Always Did
>and Always Will, or I Wouldn't be satisfied.))
>
>VF

I still maintain that injecting solvents into the lubrication system
will do more harm than good.

You obviously didn't do a lot of homework or the Forester would've
been in your little pool of Impreza-esque autos.

Hell, you can't even figure out the damn headlights and you're ready
to redesign the platform.
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