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>> Curious, just what sort of a load drain does having the lights on have on
>> an alternator so that mileage is reduced?
>>
>
> There isn't. It's like .01 % (1/10,000) of gas consumed per mile. i.e. NO
> measurable impact on gas milage. That "study" went around and got
> completely debunked all over the internet in 1999 or so.
>
> If you care about saving gas, keep your tires inflated, engine and drive
> train fluids changed regularly, take the stupid-gay ass "Thule" rack off
> your roof when you are not using it, and stop driving like a retarded monkey
> in heat and relax a bit. Those things will get you better gas savings than
> keeping the lights off will.
>
> Plus, with the lights on, you are less likely to have to pay for a new car
> cuz someone didn't see your damn fool ass coming at dusk or in the rain.
>
>
I suspected that the savings would be negligible and find lights
on a great idea. I always have them on but especially at dawn &
dusk when driving with the sun behind me so others can see me. But
the 'stupid-gay' Thule rack comment was uncalled for ;-)

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><<XX>:> Buddy

You know, I have nothing against DRL's (although personally, I prefer
not to have them). But some cars that use the high beams with reduced
power still are bright enough to cause a distraction when they are
behind you, even in broad daylight. Where is the safety in that?

I think most states have a 'wipers-on, lights-on' law these days,
which makes good sense.

If you REALLY are concerned about visibility, then you need to add one
of those strobe lights like some school buses have on their roofs. ;-)

Dan D
'99 Impreza 2.5 RS (son's)
Central NJ USA

Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother.net> wrote:

>I always have them on but especially at dawn &
>dusk when driving with the sun behind me so others can see me.

With a light behind you sticking lights on the front is actually
camouflage.
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nospam <nospam@please.invalid> Oct 23, 2007 at 06:02 AM wrote:


>Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother.net> wrote:

>>I always have them on but especially at dawn &
>>dusk when driving with the sun behind me so others can see me.

>With a light behind you sticking lights on the front is actually
>camouflage.
>
>--

Couldn't agree more! My bike or car lights are on most of the time
*except* when the sun's behind me adn *especially* when it's behind me and
low in the sky. Then I want to be as big a dark blob as possible, not a
little light trying to show up against a bloody big one! Cheers


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> nospam <nospam@please.invalid> Oct 23, 2007 at 06:02 AM wrote:
>
>
>> Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother.net> wrote:
>
>>> I always have them on but especially at dawn &
>>> dusk when driving with the sun behind me so others can see me.
>
>> With a light behind you sticking lights on the front is actually
>> camouflage.
>>
>> --
>
> Couldn't agree more! My bike or car lights are on most of the time
> *except* when the sun's behind me adn *especially* when it's behind me and
> low in the sky. Then I want to be as big a dark blob as possible, not a
> little light trying to show up against a bloody big one! Cheers
>
>
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>
I understand about using lights as camouflage, the military
checked it out, but it works at when the object is on the horizon
at some distance. If you want to argue that you are better off not
running lights with the sun behind you (not just a light!) then
you need to pay more attention to the cars coming at you when you
drive into the sun and see whether those with lights are invisible
to you. I'm not 17 and I've made my own observations and disagree
with your's based on personal experience. Cheers!

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><<XX>:> Buddy

Hey Buddy,
I agree with you.
All motor cycles should only drive with the lights on most all the time. If
not for yourself, do it for all those in the cars, as they may accidentally
hit you and kill or hurt you and feel real bad about it. They might get hurt
or killed too, so it's just a good idea. Ones family might not be too happy
either if one got hit.
I choose to drive with my cars headlights on all the time and I like the way
the lights go off when I turn off the engine and I don't have to remember to
turn them on when it rains, as that's the law now around here.
Doing things right, one might live long enough to get some experience and
live to a ripe old age, if one doesn't accidently run into one of those
without the lights on. :O)
--
Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
>>
> I understand about using lights as camouflage, the military checked it
> out, but it works at when the object is on the horizon at some distance.
> If you want to argue that you are better off not running lights with the
> sun behind you (not just a light!) then you need to pay more attention to
> the cars coming at you when you drive into the sun and see whether those
> with lights are invisible to you. I'm not 17 and I've made my own
> observations and disagree with your's based on personal experience.
> Cheers!
>
> --
>
> ><<XX>:> Buddy