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    sjagadish2001@gmail.com
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    Default Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil

    Hi

    I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    quart. for every 250 miles.

    - no leak
    - no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    - took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    - runs great, no other problems

    please advice

    thanks
    Sai.




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    joe
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil

    On 26 Jul 2006 12:52:05 -0700, sjagadish2001@gmail.com wrote:

    >Hi
    >
    >I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    >quart. for every 250 miles.
    >
    >- no leak
    >- no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    >- took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    >- runs great, no other problems
    >
    >please advice
    >
    >thanks
    >Sai.


    WTF are you doing at a "stone" tire place - a brand with 30+ years of
    proven problems.
    Toyotas do not burn oil <grin>
    j

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    Ray O
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil


    <sjagadish2001@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1153943525.718444.312660@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
    > Hi
    >
    > I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    > quart. for every 250 miles.
    >
    > - no leak
    > - no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    > - took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    > - runs great, no other problems
    >
    > please advice
    >
    > thanks
    > Sai.
    >


    Is there any smoke of any color visible from the exhaust?

    How do yo know that there is no leak? Do you park the car in a garage where
    leaks would be visible on the ground?

    What is the condition of the engine coolant?

    I recommend that you bring the vehicle to a Toyota dealer for diagnosis.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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    sjagadish2001@gmail.com
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil

    Hi Ray,

    I forgot to mention, as a matter of fact I did take the car to a toyota
    dealer he said, that engine is consuming oil but could not tell the
    exact reason why, ( it took two trips to figure that out) he said it
    happens for (1 in 1000) vehicles. The only option he said was to
    replace the engine as there is some problem with it.. i bought this car
    from a private seller who did not tell me anything about this problem.
    I am not sure what to do I have been using the car since 3 months by
    putting oil every 250 miles.

    Is there any solution to it... will cause any problems in the long run
    say for about 15K miles further.

    anythoughts would be appreciated.

    thanks
    Sai

    Ray O wrote:
    > <sjagadish2001@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1153943525.718444.312660@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    > > quart. for every 250 miles.
    > >
    > > - no leak
    > > - no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    > > - took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    > > - runs great, no other problems
    > >
    > > please advice
    > >
    > > thanks
    > > Sai.
    > >

    >
    > Is there any smoke of any color visible from the exhaust?
    >
    > How do yo know that there is no leak? Do you park the car in a garage where
    > leaks would be visible on the ground?
    >
    > What is the condition of the engine coolant?
    >
    > I recommend that you bring the vehicle to a Toyota dealer for diagnosis.
    > --
    >
    > Ray O
    > (correct punctuation to reply)



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    Ray O
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil


    <sjagadish2001@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1153946734.046602.178560@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
    > Hi Ray,
    >
    > I forgot to mention, as a matter of fact I did take the car to a toyota
    > dealer he said, that engine is consuming oil but could not tell the
    > exact reason why, ( it took two trips to figure that out) he said it
    > happens for (1 in 1000) vehicles. The only option he said was to
    > replace the engine as there is some problem with it.. i bought this car
    > from a private seller who did not tell me anything about this problem.
    > I am not sure what to do I have been using the car since 3 months by
    > putting oil every 250 miles.


    The reason it took two trips to determine how much, if any, oil the vehicle
    is using is because time and mileage have to elapse in order to determine
    consusmption.

    The car was probably very badly neglected for it to be using a quart every
    250 miles. With that kind of consusmption, the catalytic converter and/or
    oxygen sensors will probably not last very long.

    > Is there any solution to it... will cause any problems in the long run
    > say for about 15K miles further.
    >
    > anythoughts would be appreciated.
    >
    > thanks
    > Sai


    There is no simple solution when the engine is using that much oil, other
    than to change the engine. These kinds of problems are why one should
    always have a used vehicle checked by an independent technician before
    purchasing.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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    timbirr@mailcity.com
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil


    sjagadish2001@gmail.com wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    > quart. for every 250 miles.
    >
    > - no leak
    > - no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    > - took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    > - runs great, no other problems
    >
    > please advice
    >
    > thanks
    > Sai.


    I should defer to Ray, as I think he knows about 5000 percent more than
    I do. But, it is possible that it could be a bad oil pressure switch.
    Not likley, but maybe.

    Much more like it is burning the oil. Possibly someone badly
    overheated it in the past. Still and all, a quart every 250 miles
    isn't horrible....that's about $2 a pop.

    You could try something like a 20/50W oil and hopefully the heavier oil
    won't get past the rings, if that is indeed the problem. One of the
    snake oil cures such as Restore might also be considered as a last
    resort. http://www.restoreusa.com/faq.html


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    Bruce L. Bergman
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil

    On 26 Jul 2006 12:52:05 -0700, sjagadish2001@gmail.com wrote:

    >I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    >quart. for every 250 miles.
    >
    >- no leak
    >- no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    >- took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    >- runs great, no other problems


    How long ago did you buy the car, and what was the mileage then?

    Was this a private party sale, from a dealer, or (please say yes) a
    Toyota Certified Used Car from the dealer? Was the first owner of the
    car an owner, or a lessee?

    What state are you in? (There might be a 'Lemon Law' type statute
    if the seller covered up or "failed to mention" a known and obvious
    defect, check with your state DMV.)

    Did the seller provide you with any service records or other
    documentation?

    Or if the prior owner "took it to the local garage for service" can
    the owner of that garage back it up and pull up the service records
    for the car?

    I suspect that the piston rings might be toast, and the oil is going
    past the oil wiper ring on the bottom - if the original owner didn't
    change the oil on a regular basis, the crud in the oil accelerates
    wear. You can burn a lot of oil that way, and the catalytic converter
    will cover up most of the smoke. Until it gets fried.

    There are other possible (and very nasty) problems that can crop up,
    but I won't worry you prematurely. Let's get the answers to the
    questions at the top of the page first.

    --<< Bruce >>--


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    Ray O
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil


    <timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
    news:1153959336.607825.17540@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
    >
    > sjagadish2001@gmail.com wrote:
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    >> quart. for every 250 miles.
    >>
    >> - no leak
    >> - no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    >> - took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    >> - runs great, no other problems
    >>
    >> please advice
    >>
    >> thanks
    >> Sai.

    >
    > I should defer to Ray, as I think he knows about 5000 percent more than
    > I do. But, it is possible that it could be a bad oil pressure switch.
    > Not likley, but maybe.


    A bad oil pressure switch would probably leak oil all over the place.

    >
    > Much more like it is burning the oil. Possibly someone badly
    > overheated it in the past. Still and all, a quart every 250 miles
    > isn't horrible....that's about $2 a pop.
    >
    > You could try something like a 20/50W oil and hopefully the heavier oil
    > won't get past the rings, if that is indeed the problem. One of the
    > snake oil cures such as Restore might also be considered as a last
    > resort. http://www.restoreusa.com/faq.html


    Depending on how the oil is getting into the combustion chamber, detergents
    can sometimes make things worse.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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    Rastus
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil



    If your engine has done over 250,000 Kilometres, Change your PCV Valve for
    a smaller one this will alter the vacuum ratio within the engine internal
    combustion environment reducing the amount of vacuum drawn from the top tube
    of the Valve cover outlet, this should reduce the oil consumption.

    What is probably happening is imbalance of vacuum created by worn engine
    components causing a higher than normal suction from the manifold to Tappet
    cover pipe to be created in the top of the engine, by reducing the size of
    the PCV valve you reduce the suction thus reducing the amount of oil
    consumption I use a number 28 PCV valve in Camry Taxis after 400,000
    kilometres.



    <sjagadish2001@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1153943525.718444.312660@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
    > Hi
    >
    > I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    > quart. for every 250 miles.
    >
    > - no leak
    > - no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    > - took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    > - runs great, no other problems
    >
    > please advice
    >
    > thanks
    > Sai.
    >




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    sjagadish2001@gmail.com
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    Default Re: Engine oil consumption.. 2000 toyota corolla, 67K, every 250 miles need oil

    Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
    > On 26 Jul 2006 12:52:05 -0700, sjagadish2001@gmail.com wrote:
    >
    > >I have strange problem my car is consuming engine oil; I have to add a
    > >quart. for every 250 miles.
    > >
    > >- no leak
    > >- no noticeable black smoke from the exhaust.
    > >- took car to firestone- could not identify the problem
    > >- runs great, no other problems

    >
    > How long ago did you buy the car, and what was the mileage then?


    I bought the about 4 months back, the mileage was 63K

    >
    > Was this a private party sale, from a dealer, or (please say yes) a
    > Toyota Certified Used Car from the dealer? Was the first owner of the
    > car an owner, or a lessee?


    Its from a private party, (not from a dealer and not a Toyota Certified
    used car). I think he was the owner.

    >
    > What state are you in? (There might be a 'Lemon Law' type statute
    > if the seller covered up or "failed to mention" a known and obvious
    > defect, check with your state DMV.)
    >


    state: Michigan, I checked that I think it said: when you buy a car
    from a private party "as is" you cannot do anything. Will have to cross
    check again.


    > Did the seller provide you with any service records or other
    > documentation?


    he did tell he serviced the car regularly but did not provide any
    service records.

    >
    > Or if the prior owner "took it to the local garage for service" can
    > the owner of that garage back it up and pull up the service records
    > for the car?


    Not sure about that.

    > I suspect that the piston rings might be toast, and the oil is going
    > past the oil wiper ring on the bottom - if the original owner didn't
    > change the oil on a regular basis, the crud in the oil accelerates
    > wear. You can burn a lot of oil that way, and the catalytic converter
    > will cover up most of the smoke. Until it gets fried.
    >
    > There are other possible (and very nasty) problems that can crop up,
    > but I won't worry you prematurely. Let's get the answers to the
    > questions at the top of the page first.
    >


    I will try the ENGINE RESTORER & LUBRICANT as mentioned by tim..

    Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions.
    Sai

    > --<< Bruce >>--



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