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Old 12-13-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default OT Dems and GOP deadlocked as adjournment draws near

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The dims are really dim, LOL The leadership needs replacement as they
are floundering and clearly incompetent.

"Reid sought to portray senior White House adviser Ed Gillespie as an
incarnation of Karl Rove and a mastermind of intransigence."

So now it's Ed Gillespie and not Karl Rove, LOL. Excuses, excuses.

Harry reid needs to find another job, better yet take up gardening, in
his own back yard.



Congress has been brought to a grinding halt by hardening Democratic and
Republican stances on taxes and spending just days before lawmakers
begin leaving Washington for Christmas and New Yearıs.

The two sides are, in some cases, refusing even to speak to each other
about the massive omnibus and an Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) bill.

Senate Republicans refused to meet Democrats Tuesday on spending and
House Democrats rejected the Senateıs AMT ³patch,² preparing a new
version paid for with corporate tax increases.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) countered the majorityıs
plans with a proposal that would require Democrats to accept virtually
all of President Bushıs demands on spending.

McConnell demanded that Democrats also provide $70 billion for the war
with no strings attached.

Frustration boiled over in the Senate, where Majority Leader Harry Reid
(D-Nev.) said Bush ³is impossible ‹ and has been for seven years ‹ to
deal with.²

Reid sought to portray senior White House adviser Ed Gillespie as an
incarnation of Karl Rove and a mastermind of intransigence.

The majority leader disdained McConnellıs proposal, noting that an
earlier Republican effort to increase war funding without restrictions
failed to pass. Reid was not ready to accept an across-the-board funding
cut to pare the omnibus to Bushıs ceiling.

Senate Republicans rejected in advance a proposal from House Ways and
Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) to raise taxes to pay
the $50 billion cost of the AMT patch. Rangel sought a higher tax rate
on offshore deferred compensation. The Senate rejected a Rangel plan
this year that paid for the patch by raising taxes on private equity and
hedge funds.

When asked if Senate Republicans could accept AMT relief accompanied by
tax increases, Sen. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), the Republican whip-elect, replied
simply: ³No.²

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said there was ³zero² chance of the Senate
passing an AMT bill that included tax increases.

Sen. Ron Wyden (Ore.), a Democratic member of the Finance Committee,
said it would be difficult to pass a package with tax increases. The
patch would temporarily protect 23 million American taxpayers from
becoming subject to the AMT.

House Democrats are firm in demanding new taxes to pay for the $50
billion cost of AMT relief. Two leading liberal lawmakers circulated a
letter among colleagues seeking to pressure Democratic leaders.

³As progressive members of the Democratic Caucus, we wish to make clear
our concern with any AMT patch that does not adhere to the House PAYGO
rules,² wrote Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas), a member of Ways and Means,
and Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.). ³We believe House Democrats must remain
united on this principle.²

Mobilization by liberals reinforces a coalition of House Democrats from
across the political spectrum pressing Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)
to stand firm.

More than 30 conservative Blue Dog Democrats signed a letter to Pelosi
and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) urging them to pay for tax
relief.

³Under no circumstance will we vote for any piece of legislation that
does not meet the requirements of PAYGO, nor will we vote to waive the
PAYGO rules to allow for such legislation,² they wrote, referring to
budget rules that require the cost of bills be offset with tax increases
or spending cuts.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the New Democrat
Coalition, also demands an AMT bill that conforms with budget rules. ³I
want AMT paid for. I think the entire Democratic Caucus wants the AMT
paid for. I am very resolved to that.

³Iım very mindful of the number of constituents damaged if we donıt get
this fixed Š [people] also want [tax relief] paid for because they are
deeply concerned about the way the Republicans ran the Congress.²

Federal debt has soared during the Bush presidency. Republicans say
deficit spending was needed after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks
and the ensuing recession.

Tauscher said Senate Republicans need to recognize that a new party
controls Congress, and compromise.

³I would remind them we took the majority and decided we were not going
to run the government as they did, as profligate spenders,² she said.
³They need to be cooperative.²

Democratic House leaders, including Pelosi, Hoyer and Appropriations
Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.), met Tuesday to discuss strategy.
Pelosi also met Reid to discuss spending and taxes.

But they do not appear to have decided how to break the impasse.

Obey has proposed reducing the cost of the omnibus to Bushıs proposal
and cutting all lawmakersı earmarks to spare a variety of programs from
cuts. He hopes rank-and-file Republicans will press their leaders to
accept higher domestic spending to save projects slated for their
districts, said a Democratic aide.

Reid was not embracing that idea when asked about it Tuesday.
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"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers.
We are the president."

Hillary Clinton
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:33 AM
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"dbu." <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
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> <http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...d-as-adjournme
> nt-draws-near-2007-12-12.html>
>
> The dims are really dim, LOL The leadership needs replacement as they
> are floundering and clearly incompetent.



You have to be a real moron to post an article which refutes your claim
about Democrats. Your article blames both parties for being inflexible. You
might've noticed that if you had read more than the first two lines of the
article. But, you have that mysterious reading problem, which we all know is
a complete lie.

Ah ha....here's the explanation:

"Yes, I've tried all that. I find driving and reading white paper is the
worst. I'm not bothered much by it using my cinema display because I
can sit back at least three feet and I don't need to move my eye back and
forth. When I read a book or newspaper it helps to close the right
eyelid, but that only lasts for a short while. I should get a patch as
someone suggested. My vision is still 20-20 but the movement inside
the eye is most distracting."

I see the key words: "only lasts for a short while". This explains why you
don't read past the headlines or maybe a paragraph, if you're lucky. Based
on what YOU SAID, you shouldn't be posting news articles unless you first
have someone read them to you. Save yourself some embarrassment, ya know?


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Old 12-13-2007, 03:41 AM
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In article <da%7j.359$7d1.189@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "dbu." <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> news:nospam-6E6749.18302912122007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > <http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...d-as-adjournme
> > nt-draws-near-2007-12-12.html>
> >
> > The dims are really dim, LOL The leadership needs replacement as they
> > are floundering and clearly incompetent.

>
>
> You have to be a real moron to post an article which refutes your claim
> about Democrats. Your article blames both parties for being inflexible. You
> might've noticed that if you had read more than the first two lines of the
> article. But, you have that mysterious reading problem, which we all know is
> a complete lie.
>
> Ah ha....here's the explanation:
>
> "Yes, I've tried all that. I find driving and reading white paper is the
> worst. I'm not bothered much by it using my cinema display because I
> can sit back at least three feet and I don't need to move my eye back and
> forth. When I read a book or newspaper it helps to close the right
> eyelid, but that only lasts for a short while. I should get a patch as
> someone suggested. My vision is still 20-20 but the movement inside
> the eye is most distracting."
>
> I see the key words: "only lasts for a short while". This explains why you
> don't read past the headlines or maybe a paragraph, if you're lucky. Based
> on what YOU SAID, you shouldn't be posting news articles unless you first
> have someone read them to you. Save yourself some embarrassment, ya know?


Let's impeach Bush now, why wait. The congress can't get up off their
lame asses that's why. Poor leadership. They need replacement.
--
"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers.
We are the president."

Hillary Clinton
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:37 AM
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"dbu." <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
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> In article <da%7j.359$7d1.189@news01.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "dbu." <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
>> news:nospam-6E6749.18302912122007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > <http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...d-as-adjournme
>> > nt-draws-near-2007-12-12.html>
>> >
>> > The dims are really dim, LOL The leadership needs replacement as they
>> > are floundering and clearly incompetent.

>>
>>
>> You have to be a real moron to post an article which refutes your claim
>> about Democrats. Your article blames both parties for being inflexible.
>> You
>> might've noticed that if you had read more than the first two lines of
>> the
>> article. But, you have that mysterious reading problem, which we all know
>> is
>> a complete lie.
>>
>> Ah ha....here's the explanation:
>>
>> "Yes, I've tried all that. I find driving and reading white paper is the
>> worst. I'm not bothered much by it using my cinema display because I
>> can sit back at least three feet and I don't need to move my eye back and
>> forth. When I read a book or newspaper it helps to close the right
>> eyelid, but that only lasts for a short while. I should get a patch as
>> someone suggested. My vision is still 20-20 but the movement inside
>> the eye is most distracting."
>>
>> I see the key words: "only lasts for a short while". This explains why
>> you
>> don't read past the headlines or maybe a paragraph, if you're lucky.
>> Based
>> on what YOU SAID, you shouldn't be posting news articles unless you first
>> have someone read them to you. Save yourself some embarrassment, ya know?

>
> Let's impeach Bush now, why wait. The congress can't get up off their
> lame asses that's why. Poor leadership. They need replacement.



Change of subject. You are such a little pussy.


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Old 12-13-2007, 10:17 AM
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In article <rV28j.331$Sa1.118@news02.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "dbu." <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> news:nospam-B52B45.20122012122007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <da%7j.359$7d1.189@news01.roc.ny>,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "dbu." <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> >> news:nospam-6E6749.18302912122007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > <http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...d-as-adjournme
> >> > nt-draws-near-2007-12-12.html>
> >> >
> >> > The dims are really dim, LOL The leadership needs replacement as they
> >> > are floundering and clearly incompetent.
> >>
> >>
> >> You have to be a real moron to post an article which refutes your claim
> >> about Democrats. Your article blames both parties for being inflexible.
> >> You
> >> might've noticed that if you had read more than the first two lines of
> >> the
> >> article. But, you have that mysterious reading problem, which we all know
> >> is
> >> a complete lie.
> >>
> >> Ah ha....here's the explanation:
> >>
> >> "Yes, I've tried all that. I find driving and reading white paper is the
> >> worst. I'm not bothered much by it using my cinema display because I
> >> can sit back at least three feet and I don't need to move my eye back and
> >> forth. When I read a book or newspaper it helps to close the right
> >> eyelid, but that only lasts for a short while. I should get a patch as
> >> someone suggested. My vision is still 20-20 but the movement inside
> >> the eye is most distracting."
> >>
> >> I see the key words: "only lasts for a short while". This explains why
> >> you
> >> don't read past the headlines or maybe a paragraph, if you're lucky.
> >> Based
> >> on what YOU SAID, you shouldn't be posting news articles unless you first
> >> have someone read them to you. Save yourself some embarrassment, ya know?

> >
> > Let's impeach Bush now, why wait. The congress can't get up off their
> > lame asses that's why. Poor leadership. They need replacement.

>
>
> Change of subject. You are such a little pussy.


And your bedding needs changing more than once a day.
--
"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers.
We are the president."

Hillary Clinton
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:46 PM
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dbu., 12/12/2007,7:30:29 PM, wrote:

> Congress has been brought to a grinding halt by hardening Democratic
> and Republican stances on taxes and spending just days before
> lawmakers begin leaving Washington for Christmas and New Year's.


This is not necessarily bad.

--
“The more things change, the more they remain the same.” ~ Alphonse Karr
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