I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
> I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie

Most likely, you need a new head gasket. That's expensive. Like $500 to
$1500. And that's assuming that you didn't damage the bearings. If
that's the case, you're talking more like $2500 to $3500.

Good luck.

Jeff

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
> I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie


Never a good sign. Most likely, a head gasket as another person
mentioned, but it could be a cracked block as well that being remote.

You did not mention if the engine was making any unusual noise, but you
might be ok if you fix the leak, drain and replace the oil and repeat
the oil change in about a thousand miles. That should do it, but it is
an eighty three truck, and anything is possible. Good luck.

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
> I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie


I forgot to mention to check each spark plug for coolant staining. That
might give you a direction to address the leak. If it's on the plug or
plugs, it's probably the head gasket.

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:54:35 -0800, Jamie Mello wrote:

> I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil. I do
> not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie


Any way you slice it, it's not good. As a lot have suggested, it could be
a head gasket. But a head gasket would have given you some warning before
it blew out.

More than likely, the chain has eaten through the engine block. These
engines were notorious for letting the chain rub against the block slowly
and subtley, with the only warning being a slight rasping sound for 2-5
minutes on warm up. They use a hydraulic chain tensioner that takes a few
seconds to tighten up and move the chain away from the block. Over the
years, and especially if you don't change the oil faithfully and sludge
builds up, the tensioners don't do their job and the chain eats through
the block.

If you're *lucky*, it's a head gasket. It's very easy to replace a BHG on
this engine. If you're not so lucky, the chain has gotten you and there
isn't a lot you can do: replace the engine or scrap the truck.

The upside is, these engines were used a LOT, and there are plenty out
there. I would consider replacing the 22R with a 22RE, the injected
version of the engine. They were used in the trucks after 1985 (you'll
have to hunt, for '85 and '86 they were about 50/50), and after '87 they
were the only version installed. They were also installed in the Celica
and Celica GTS from '82 or so.

Unfortunately, I sent a prime example to the junkyard just about a year
ago; $300 out of a wrecked '91 PU with 120,000 miles on it. But, going
with a 22RE means swapping the engine harness and the computer, but it's
not too much more difficult than changing the engine alone. Or, you could
yank the head off your '83 and replace the FI head on a newer motor (but
why would you want to do that?!?!)

Let us know what you find.

Good Luck.

"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
> I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie

Besides the head and head gasket problems that other have mentioned, check
under the front timing cover to make sure nothing has worn through there
from the chain rubbing on something.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:54:35 -0800 (PST), Jamie Mello
<carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
>I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie

Two possibilities - head gasket, or on a high-mileage engine the
timing chain tensioner is long gone and the timing chain flops around
and wears through the timing cover and into a coolant passage.

The timing chain makes lots of noise when the tensioner dies, and a
good mechanic will know to do the timing set work before the disaster.

Either way STOP DRIVING IT until it is diagnosed and fixed. Coolant
is not oil and will quickly wreck the bearings if you keep driving it
with contaminated engine oil. Then it becomes a full engine rebuild.

--<< Bruce >>--

"Bruce L. Bergman" <blnospambergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:54:35 -0800 (PST), Jamie Mello
> <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
>>I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie
>
> Two possibilities - head gasket, or on a high-mileage engine the
> timing chain tensioner is long gone and the timing chain flops around
> and wears through the timing cover and into a coolant passage.
>
> The timing chain makes lots of noise when the tensioner dies, and a
> good mechanic will know to do the timing set work before the disaster.
>
> Either way STOP DRIVING IT until it is diagnosed and fixed. Coolant
> is not oil and will quickly wreck the bearings if you keep driving it
> with contaminated engine oil. Then it becomes a full engine rebuild.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>
If it is indeed a head gasket, with a vehicle that old, I'd be inclined to
put in a bottle of stop leak and see whether it plugged up the head gasket.
I did this some years ago with a Peugeot with a bad gasket, and it held
together for a couple of years until I sold the car.
a lot less expensive than replacing the gasket, IF it works. If it's the
wear from the chain, all bets are off.

I stop driving it the day the all the water went into the oil.It did
not make any sounds like something was wrong. The truck has about 129k
miles on it now. I know it has been getting very bad gas mileage. And
the engine has very little power going up hill.Thanks Jamie

Odds are, you have a blown head gasket.



"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I have 83 toyota pickup 4X4 with a 22R that the water is in with oil.
> I do not know what the problem is. Thanks Jamie