I read an article about a new technology discovered using different tubes in
Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in electric
and hybrids...

"Mr4701" <NoExists@Earth.net> wrote in message
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>I read an article about a new technology discovered using different tubes
>in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
>ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in electric
>and hybrids...

It would be helpful if you cited the article so that readers would know what
you are talking about. ;-)

Is this is the battery you are talking about?
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm

This battery's biggest advantage appears to be a rapid recharge time and
long life cycle.

The challenge for using lithium-ion batteries in Hybrid and plug-in vehicles
is a shorter life cycle than nickel metal hydride batteries; the heat
generated by lithium-ion batteries; cost; and manufacturing capacity. The
Toshiba Scib battery appears to address one or two of those factors, but
Toyota already has a stake in Panasonic batteries, and it is unlikely to
change suppliers this late in their development.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

err this one http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16129/885/




"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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> "Mr4701" <NoExists@Earth.net> wrote in message
> news:m_clj.19304$9t4.694@trnddc08...
>>I read an article about a new technology discovered using different tubes
>>in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
>>ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in
>>electric and hybrids...
>
> It would be helpful if you cited the article so that readers would know
> what you are talking about. ;-)
>
> Is this is the battery you are talking about?
> http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm
>
> This battery's biggest advantage appears to be a rapid recharge time and
> long life cycle.
>
> The challenge for using lithium-ion batteries in Hybrid and plug-in
> vehicles is a shorter life cycle than nickel metal hydride batteries; the
> heat generated by lithium-ion batteries; cost; and manufacturing capacity.
> The Toshiba Scib battery appears to address one or two of those factors,
> but Toyota already has a stake in Panasonic batteries, and it is unlikely
> to change suppliers this late in their development.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

"Mr4701" <NoExists@Earth.net> wrote in message
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>I read an article about a new technology discovered using different tubes
>in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
>ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in electric
>and hybrids...
>

Fuck hybrid cars. I want AA rechargable batteries that actually produce 1.5
volts, even after being charged and then stored for 3 weeks.

On Jan 21, 10:43 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote in message
>
> news:m_clj.19304$9t4.694@trnddc08...
>
> >I read an article about a new technology discovered using different tubes
> >in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
> >ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in electric
> >and hybrids...
>
> Fuck hybrid cars. I want AA rechargable batteries that actually produce 1.5
> volts, even after being charged and then stored for 3 weeks.


http://www.rayovac.com/recharge/index.shtml
This is what I use on my digital camera. When I saw the RayO name I
bought it immediately even if I didn't have a use for it at that time
=)

"Mr4701" <NoExists@Earth.net> wrote in message
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> err this one http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16129/885/
>

Interesting! If everything in the article and what the developer says is
correct, just about everything that uses a battery will enjoy much longer
useful life!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 21, 10:43 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:m_clj.19304$9t4.694@trnddc08...
>>
>> >I read an article about a new technology discovered using different
>> >tubes
>> >in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
>> >ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in
>> >electric
>> >and hybrids...
>>
>> Fuck hybrid cars. I want AA rechargable batteries that actually produce
>> 1.5
>> volts, even after being charged and then stored for 3 weeks.
>
>
> http://www.rayovac.com/recharge/index.shtml
> This is what I use on my digital camera. When I saw the RayO name I
> bought it immediately even if I didn't have a use for it at that time
> =)


Have you measured their voltage after charging? Do they ***REALLY*** produce
just over 1.5 like a normal AA battery? I read rave reviews about Panasonic
rechargables a couple of years ago, but they turned out to be a farce.

On Jan 21, 11:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> > On Jan 21, 10:43 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:m_clj.19304$9t4.694@trnddc08...
>
> >> >I read an article about a new technology discovered using different
> >> >tubes
> >> >in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
> >> >ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in
> >> >electric
> >> >and hybrids...
>
> >> Fuck hybrid cars. I want AA rechargable batteries that actually produce
> >> 1.5
> >> volts, even after being charged and then stored for 3 weeks.
>
> >http://www.rayovac.com/recharge/index.shtml
> > This is what I use on my digital camera. When I saw the RayO name I
> > bought it immediately even if I didn't have a use for it at that time
> > =)
>

> Have you measured their voltage after charging?
No I didn't measure anything. Should I? I just plug them in and they
work as I expected. No more rushing to the store to get new batteries.
On what highly sensitive electronic device do you need an exact 1.5V?
Your blood pressure monitor? =)

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> On Jan 21, 11:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8b242fa0-0c33-4eca-9e0d-e0929f7e479f@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 21, 10:43 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:m_clj.19304$9t4.694@trnddc08...
>>
>> >> >I read an article about a new technology discovered using different
>> >> >tubes
>> >> >in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times
>> >> >the
>> >> >ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in
>> >> >electric
>> >> >and hybrids...
>>
>> >> Fuck hybrid cars. I want AA rechargable batteries that actually
>> >> produce
>> >> 1.5
>> >> volts, even after being charged and then stored for 3 weeks.
>>
>> >http://www.rayovac.com/recharge/index.shtml
>> > This is what I use on my digital camera. When I saw the RayO name I
>> > bought it immediately even if I didn't have a use for it at that time
>> > =)
>>
>
>> Have you measured their voltage after charging?
> No I didn't measure anything. Should I? I just plug them in and they
> work as I expected. No more rushing to the store to get new batteries.
> On what highly sensitive electronic device do you need an exact 1.5V?
> Your blood pressure monitor? =)


A portable shortwave radio which shuts down below 1.2 volts. The Panasonic
rechargables read 1.4 when fully charged.

A Sennheiser wireless musical instrument transmitter reads low battery when
it sees 1.3 volts, and starts blinking at 1.1 volts. I don't need that
nonsense when I'm halfway through a two hour set on stage.

Neither device behaves this way with Duracell batteries, even when they read
the same low voltage as the rechargables. Interesting, and I can't explain
it.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Mr4701" <NoExists@Earth.net> wrote in message
> news:m_clj.19304$9t4.694@trnddc08...
>
>>I read an article about a new technology discovered using different tubes
>>in Li-Ion batteries that could supercharge the batteries to 10 times the
>>ammount of time... I wonder if this tech, could one day be used in electric
>>and hybrids...
>
>Fuck hybrid cars.
>
No.
>
>I want AA rechargable batteries that actually produce 1.5
> volts, even after being charged and then stored for 3 weeks.
>
You probably would have hated the original type non-hydride nickel-
hydrogen cells use in old satellites since they would lose 90% of
their charge in 24 hours. But last year, Panasonic and another major
battery maker introduced NiMH cells that, while they still put out
only about 1.25V, can retain 80% of their initial charge capacity for
a year.

Here's some more information about electric car technology:

http://www.acpropulsion.com/media/Sw...0issue%201.pdf