Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with Camry,
Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.

Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they want
to lose Camry vs. Accord either.

Then again Toyota is making so much money around the world that US
market might not mean that much to them as it used to.

In article <ug5ip3h9ckide971d5gnjqeoi6opfmljbg@4ax.com>,
Doctor Chen <phdchen@google.com> wrote:

> Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with Camry,
> Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.
>
> Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they want
> to lose Camry vs. Accord either.
>
> Then again Toyota is making so much money around the world that US
> market might not mean that much to them as it used to.

You should post that in the NG where it matters, Honda NG.

On Jan 24, 4:51 pm, Doctor Chen <phdc...@google.com> wrote:
> Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with Camry,
> Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.
>
> Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they want
> to lose Camry vs. Accord either.

Dunno. I had my pick of many civics and corollas parked side by
side to compare. I ended up going with the corolla.
I couldn't adapt to the dark "goth" interiors on the civic.
Too gloomy and somewhat cheap looking.
I also liked the higher seating platform of the corolla.
Makes it feel bigger than it is, and is safer in a crash to
small extent.
Yes, the car is somewhat gay looking from the rear, but I sit in the
inside, not the outside. :/
BTW, I'm not anti honda either.. Said corolla replaced an older
accord.
Also, I saw the commercials of the new accord, and didn't look too
special to me.. Basically just another typical Sazuhondayota as far
as
I could tell... :/
MK

"Doctor Chen" <phdchen@google.com> wrote in message
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>
> Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with Camry,
> Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.
>
> Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they want
> to lose Camry vs. Accord either.
>
> Then again Toyota is making so much money around the world that US
> market might not mean that much to them as it used to.
>

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The rear tail lights look
like the tail lights from a 2000 Sable.
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Ray O
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"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>
> wrote:
>> "Doctor Chen" <phdc...@google.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ug5ip3h9ckide971d5gnjqeoi6opfmljbg@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with Camry,
>> > Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.
>>
>> > Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they want
>> > to lose Camry vs. Accord either.
>>
>> > Then again Toyota is making so much money around the world that US
>> > market might not mean that much to them as it used to.
>>
>> I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The rear tail lights look
>> like the tail lights from a 2000 Sable.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
> And Honda has to come up with a hybrid to compete with the Camry. They
> do have a coupe which is winner by default =)

The Solara is the coupe version of the Camry.
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Ray O
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In article <obydnR1yKsUY7QTanZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Their '04 & '05 tail
> lights were butt ugly, too. A friend said it looked like the lights from a
> Buick.

He was 100% correct on THAT one.

In article <obydnR1yKsUY7QTanZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote:

> New Accords are too
> big.. More power from the same 2.4 engine and gas mileage goes down. What
> is Honda thinking?! (And this is coming from an Accord owner).

sigh. You aren't paying a BIT of attention to the EPA gas mileage
ratings, are you.

We'll be fighting this misperception for years. OK, here goes: the EPA
reformulated how it figures gas mileage. As a result, the reported
figures overall went down for 2008.

That's right. Even for cars that stayed exactly the same between 07 and
08 showed 08 stickers with lower gas mileage figures.

That the 08 Honda showed lower gas mileage isn't Honda's doing. It
simply shows a different formulated number than it would have under the
old formula, the one used in 07 and earlier.

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Doctor Chen" <phdchen@google.com> wrote in message
> news:ug5ip3h9ckide971d5gnjqeoi6opfmljbg@4ax.com...
>>
>> Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with Camry,
>> Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.
>>
>> Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they
>> want
>> to lose Camry vs. Accord either.
>>
>> Then again Toyota is making so much money around the world that US
>> market might not mean that much to them as it used to.
>>
>
> I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The rear tail lights
> look like the tail lights from a 2000 Sable.

The first time I saw the TV ad for the new 4 Door Accord, I thought it
was a Saturn Aura, i.e., DULL. However, the new 2 Door Accord is very
attractive. Unfortunately they must not be particularly eye catching -
I don't recall seeing either a new 4 door or 2 door Accord on the
local roads, but then it might be hard to pick them out when I am
surrounded by thousands of Camrys.

Ed

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ae6d5f61-44d2-4d7c-881d-cec6118996b6@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>
>> wrote:
>>> "Doctor Chen" <phdc...@google.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ug5ip3h9ckide971d5gnjqeoi6opfmljbg@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Just when Toyota thinks they dominated the sedan market with
>>> > Camry,
>>> > Honda comes out with the brand new Accord to make a challenge.
>>>
>>> > Toyota already loses the Civic vs. Corolla war, not sure if they
>>> > want
>>> > to lose Camry vs. Accord either.
>>>
>>> > Then again Toyota is making so much money around the world that
>>> > US
>>> > market might not mean that much to them as it used to.
>>>
>>> I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The rear tail
>>> lights look
>>> like the tail lights from a 2000 Sable.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>> And Honda has to come up with a hybrid to compete with the Camry.
>> They
>> do have a coupe which is winner by default =)
>
> The Solara is the coupe version of the Camry.


Like he said, the Accord coupe is a winner by default

Ed

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
<snippws>

> I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The rear tail lights
>> look like the tail lights from a 2000 Sable.
>
> The first time I saw the TV ad for the new 4 Door Accord, I thought it was
> a Saturn Aura, i.e., DULL. However, the new 2 Door Accord is very
> attractive. Unfortunately they must not be particularly eye catching - I
> don't recall seeing either a new 4 door or 2 door Accord on the local
> roads, but then it might be hard to pick them out when I am surrounded by
> thousands of Camrys.
>
> Ed
Now that you mention it, the new 4 Dr. Accord and Saturn Aura do look very
similar. There are a few Accords running around the northwest suburbs of
Chicago, and one is parked in the lot at my office.

I haven't seen any new Accord coupes, but from the photos on their web site,
the nose looks like a Scion tC to me.
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Ray O
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