Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
South America.

In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
mail opened and copied.

We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.

<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
> restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
> tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
> have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
> holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
> is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
> South America.
>
> In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
> all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
> mail opened and copied.
>
> We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.


So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
ragheads on bombs? Great.

Are you aware that Hillary has said she will force you to buy health
insurance, and if she finds out you do not have it she will garnish your
wages AND give you a fine for not participating voluntarily?

Whom is the bigger danger to you, one that will never listen to you unless
you place a phone call to Pakistan or the one that will empty your bank
account?

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:XJntj.78$N95.34@trnddc03...
>
> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
>> restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
>> tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
>> have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
>> holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
>> is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
>> South America.
>>
>> In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
>> all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
>> mail opened and copied.
>>
>> We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>
>
> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
> ragheads on bombs? Great.


George H.W. Bush, the former president, socializes in Kennebunkport with
people from a country which is a state sponsor of terrorism. According to
the new rules, George H.W. Bush's phonecalls with those people may (and
probably should) be monitored.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nOntj.4254$7d1.173@news01.roc.ny...
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:XJntj.78$N95.34@trnddc03...
>>
>> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
>>> restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
>>> tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
>>> have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
>>> holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
>>> is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
>>> South America.
>>>
>>> In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
>>> all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
>>> mail opened and copied.
>>>
>>> We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>>
>>
>> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
>> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>
>
> George H.W. Bush, the former president, socializes in Kennebunkport with
> people from a country which is a state sponsor of terrorism. According to
> the new rules, George H.W. Bush's phonecalls with those people may (and
> probably should) be monitored.
>

Okay. Do you care that Bush Daddy is monitored, or do you care that YOU are
monitored?

I don't care that you or he are monitored, I only care that _I_ am
monitored. I avoid being monitored by not calling Pakistan.

There are 300,000,000 Americans. This is far too many to monitor, unless
they focus on a very few -- probably numbering in the tens. I much prefer
these be monitored, than having Her Thankleness tap my checking account
because I do not have health insurance. And, I prefer a few be monitored
instead of counting the HGH shots that Clements got.

On Feb 15, 4:45*pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Here is a very good plan. *When the Democrats get back in power and
> > restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
> > tap all the Bush family phone. *After all the entire family seems to
> > have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. *In fact, Shrub
> > holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. *Daddy Bush
> > is friends with the bin Laden family. *Neil Bush lives part time in
> > South America.
>
> > In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
> > all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
> > mail opened and copied.
>
> > We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>
> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>
> Are you aware that Hillary has said she will force you to buy health
> insurance, and if she finds out you do not have it she will garnish your
> wages AND give you a fine for not participating voluntarily?
>
> Whom is the bigger danger to you, one that will never listen to you unless
> you place a phone call to Pakistan or the one that will empty your bank
> account?

I think we need to leave professional sports figures alone. That is
their livelyhood. Baseball players, hockey players, football
players!!! put their bodies through hell. If the Olympics and the
Tour de france want to test for performance enhancing drugs, fine, but
leave the pros alone. Seeing any of these guys still playing in ther
30's is inspiring. Look at Garcia, QB for Tampa Bay - he is a
monster, still. (We won't talk about the Eagle trading him to protect
McNabb's tender ego.)

Congress is pissing me off. I have sent nastygram emails to Howard
Dean, MoveOn.org and a few other dems telling them to grow a spine.
There is a grass roots effort that says don't get frustrated and stop
voting, run a real dem against a fake dem, challenge our own party.
This refocuses the person in office to get their poop together and
rediscover their progressive principles.

<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b82e2bdd-1183-4d74-8d8a-306a5a547729@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 15, 4:45 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
> > restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
> > tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
> > have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
> > holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
> > is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
> > South America.
>
> > In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
> > all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
> > mail opened and copied.
>
> > We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>
> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>
> Are you aware that Hillary has said she will force you to buy health
> insurance, and if she finds out you do not have it she will garnish your
> wages AND give you a fine for not participating voluntarily?
>
> Whom is the bigger danger to you, one that will never listen to you unless
> you place a phone call to Pakistan or the one that will empty your bank
> account?

I think we need to leave professional sports figures alone. That is
their livelyhood. Baseball players, hockey players, football
players!!! put their bodies through hell. If the Olympics and the
Tour de france want to test for performance enhancing drugs, fine, but
leave the pros alone. Seeing any of these guys still playing in ther
30's is inspiring. Look at Garcia, QB for Tampa Bay - he is a
monster, still. (We won't talk about the Eagle trading him to protect
McNabb's tender ego.)

Congress is pissing me off. I have sent nastygram emails to Howard
Dean, MoveOn.org and a few other dems telling them to grow a spine.
There is a grass roots effort that says don't get frustrated and stop
voting, run a real dem against a fake dem, challenge our own party.
This refocuses the person in office to get their poop together and
rediscover their progressive principles.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:P2otj.86$N95.27@trnddc03...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:nOntj.4254$7d1.173@news01.roc.ny...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:XJntj.78$N95.34@trnddc03...
>>>
>>> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
>>>> restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
>>>> tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
>>>> have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
>>>> holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
>>>> is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
>>>> South America.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
>>>> all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
>>>> mail opened and copied.
>>>>
>>>> We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
>>> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>>
>>
>> George H.W. Bush, the former president, socializes in Kennebunkport with
>> people from a country which is a state sponsor of terrorism. According to
>> the new rules, George H.W. Bush's phonecalls with those people may (and
>> probably should) be monitored.
>>
>
> Okay. Do you care that Bush Daddy is monitored, or do you care that YOU
> are monitored?
>
> I don't care that you or he are monitored, I only care that _I_ am
> monitored. I avoid being monitored by not calling Pakistan.
>
> There are 300,000,000 Americans. This is far too many to monitor, unless
> they focus on a very few -- probably numbering in the tens. I much prefer
> these be monitored, than having Her Thankleness tap my checking account
> because I do not have health insurance. And, I prefer a few be monitored
> instead of counting the HGH shots that Clements got.


All I care about is that the constitution is not stepped on. As you know
(but are hoping nobody will mention), the law has already been broken in the
name of "patriotism and safety". We can't let that continue.

You cannot amend the Constitution with persistent evasion.
-Mario Cuomo

<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b82e2bdd-1183-4d74-8d8a-306a5a547729@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 15, 4:45 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
> > restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
> > tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
> > have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
> > holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
> > is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
> > South America.
>
> > In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
> > all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
> > mail opened and copied.
>
> > We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>
> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>
> Are you aware that Hillary has said she will force you to buy health
> insurance, and if she finds out you do not have it she will garnish your
> wages AND give you a fine for not participating voluntarily?
>
> Whom is the bigger danger to you, one that will never listen to you unless
> you place a phone call to Pakistan or the one that will empty your bank
> account?

I think we need to leave professional sports figures alone. That is
their livelyhood. Baseball players, hockey players, football
players!!! put their bodies through hell. If the Olympics and the
Tour de france want to test for performance enhancing drugs, fine, but
leave the pros alone. Seeing any of these guys still playing in ther
30's is inspiring. Look at Garcia, QB for Tampa Bay - he is a
monster, still. (We won't talk about the Eagle trading him to protect
McNabb's tender ego.)

Congress is pissing me off. I have sent nastygram emails to Howard
Dean, MoveOn.org and a few other dems telling them to grow a spine.
There is a grass roots effort that says don't get frustrated and stop
voting, run a real dem against a fake dem, challenge our own party.
This refocuses the person in office to get their poop together and
rediscover their progressive principles.


<JS>
I do not agree, completely. Pro-sports players should be governed by their
respective sport. If baseball wants to have juiced players, or turn a blind
eye to them, then that is baseball's choice. Football, basketball, and so on
are all the same.

Players on juice are bad, but more for the player than anybody else. And,
bad for the sport, which is why the sport should deal with these guys. In
any case, juiced players is not a congressional issue.
</JS>

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b9otj.4217$Sa1.305@news02.roc.ny...
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:P2otj.86$N95.27@trnddc03...
>>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:nOntj.4254$7d1.173@news01.roc.ny...
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XJntj.78$N95.34@trnddc03...
>>>>
>>>> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
>>>>> restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
>>>>> tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
>>>>> have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
>>>>> holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
>>>>> is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
>>>>> South America.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to have
>>>>> all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and usps
>>>>> mail opened and copied.
>>>>>
>>>>> We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
>>>> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>>>
>>>
>>> George H.W. Bush, the former president, socializes in Kennebunkport with
>>> people from a country which is a state sponsor of terrorism. According
>>> to the new rules, George H.W. Bush's phonecalls with those people may
>>> (and probably should) be monitored.
>>>
>>
>> Okay. Do you care that Bush Daddy is monitored, or do you care that YOU
>> are monitored?
>>
>> I don't care that you or he are monitored, I only care that _I_ am
>> monitored. I avoid being monitored by not calling Pakistan.
>>
>> There are 300,000,000 Americans. This is far too many to monitor, unless
>> they focus on a very few -- probably numbering in the tens. I much prefer
>> these be monitored, than having Her Thankleness tap my checking account
>> because I do not have health insurance. And, I prefer a few be monitored
>> instead of counting the HGH shots that Clements got.
>
>
> All I care about is that the constitution is not stepped on. As you know
> (but are hoping nobody will mention), the law has already been broken in
> the name of "patriotism and safety". We can't let that continue.
>

FISA is not unconstitutional. Yes, FISA has been broken and that's a bad
thing. But banks have been robbed and that's a bad thing. Are you suggesting
we scrap the bank-robbery laws because they have been broken already? That's
absurd.

You are suggesting we scrap FISA because it was broken. Indeed, you are
applauding the end of FISA, will you cheer just as enthusiastically when
bank-robber laws are scrapped?

It is notable that you do not protest Hillary's plan to go into your
checkbook and grab your money.

Where do you draw the line on what the government can do to you?

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:biotj.90$N95.87@trnddc03...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:b9otj.4217$Sa1.305@news02.roc.ny...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:P2otj.86$N95.27@trnddc03...
>>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nOntj.4254$7d1.173@news01.roc.ny...
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:XJntj.78$N95.34@trnddc03...
>>>>>
>>>>> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9e3a57dd-b9d9-47d9-bb6c-fd1f808f5567@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Here is a very good plan. When the Democrats get back in power and
>>>>>> restore the constitution, they can follow the letter of the law and
>>>>>> tap all the Bush family phone. After all the entire family seems to
>>>>>> have a large number of Islamic terrorist friends. In fact, Shrub
>>>>>> holds hands with a few every time he is in their company. Daddy Bush
>>>>>> is friends with the bin Laden family. Neil Bush lives part time in
>>>>>> South America.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, the entire Bush administration past and present needs to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> all phone calls and internet traffic recorded, and all emails and
>>>>>> usps
>>>>>> mail opened and copied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We owe it to ourselves to ferret out the collaborators in our midst.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, you would rather Congress go after sports figures on steroids than
>>>>> ragheads on bombs? Great.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> George H.W. Bush, the former president, socializes in Kennebunkport
>>>> with people from a country which is a state sponsor of terrorism.
>>>> According to the new rules, George H.W. Bush's phonecalls with those
>>>> people may (and probably should) be monitored.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay. Do you care that Bush Daddy is monitored, or do you care that YOU
>>> are monitored?
>>>
>>> I don't care that you or he are monitored, I only care that _I_ am
>>> monitored. I avoid being monitored by not calling Pakistan.
>>>
>>> There are 300,000,000 Americans. This is far too many to monitor, unless
>>> they focus on a very few -- probably numbering in the tens. I much
>>> prefer these be monitored, than having Her Thankleness tap my checking
>>> account because I do not have health insurance. And, I prefer a few be
>>> monitored instead of counting the HGH shots that Clements got.
>>
>>
>> All I care about is that the constitution is not stepped on. As you know
>> (but are hoping nobody will mention), the law has already been broken in
>> the name of "patriotism and safety". We can't let that continue.
>>
>
> FISA is not unconstitutional. Yes, FISA has been broken and that's a bad
> thing. But banks have been robbed and that's a bad thing. Are you
> suggesting we scrap the bank-robbery laws because they have been broken
> already? That's absurd.
>
> You are suggesting we scrap FISA because it was broken. Indeed, you are
> applauding the end of FISA, will you cheer just as enthusiastically when
> bank-robber laws are scrapped?
>
> It is notable that you do not protest Hillary's plan to go into your
> checkbook and grab your money.
>
> Where do you draw the line on what the government can do to you?


First of all, you will immediately eject your health plan comments and
questions from this discussion, since they are not related to electronical
surveillance. I will not address the issue here, so you're only adding
clutter.

Capisce?