http://www.kxmb.com/News/Nation/209747.asp

DEKALB, Ill. - Another person shot when a gunman opened fire at a
lecture hall at Northern Illinois University has died, bringing the
toll to seven, including the gunman, a coroner said Friday.



Investigators and school officials did not immediately know why
the man indiscriminately fired into the crowd with a shotgun and two
handguns Thursday, wounding 15 people and sending panicked students
fleeing for the exits before killing himself.



“We have no motive and I have no way of knowing what the motive
was,” University Police Chief Donald Grady said.


At one time I was very against arming teachers or allowing qualified
students to carry on campus. I’m not any more. These maniacs go to
those schools KNOWING that their’s will be the only gun there - until
police arrive. And that can take minutes.


If you know anything about guns, or ever fire on a range, take any
semi-automatic pistol with, say, two extra loaded magazines, and see
how long it will take you to fire every single round in those
magazines. It doesn’t take but a few seconds. Then imagine firing into
a crowded room filled with unarmed people.


Like shooting fish in a barrel.



This one, like some others before him, even stopped to reload. One
gun. That’s all it would have taken. But that campus, like all the
others, is a “gun free zone”.


To everyone except the killer.
--

Scott in Florida

In article <vefdr39389srgqinoe6ahsrj6kle3tldda@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote:

> http://www.kxmb.com/News/Nation/209747.asp
>
> DEKALB, Ill. - Another person shot when a gunman opened fire at a
> lecture hall at Northern Illinois University has died, bringing the
> toll to seven, including the gunman, a coroner said Friday.
>
>
>
> Investigators and school officials did not immediately know why
> the man indiscriminately fired into the crowd with a shotgun and two
> handguns Thursday, wounding 15 people and sending panicked students
> fleeing for the exits before killing himself.
>
>
>
> “We have no motive and I have no way of knowing what the motive
> was,” University Police Chief Donald Grady said.
>
>
> At one time I was very against arming teachers or allowing qualified
> students to carry on campus. I’m not any more. These maniacs go to
> those schools KNOWING that their’s will be the only gun there - until
> police arrive. And that can take minutes.
>
>
> If you know anything about guns, or ever fire on a range, take any
> semi-automatic pistol with, say, two extra loaded magazines, and see
> how long it will take you to fire every single round in those
> magazines. It doesn’t take but a few seconds. Then imagine firing into
> a crowded room filled with unarmed people.
>
>
> Like shooting fish in a barrel.
>
>
>
> This one, like some others before him, even stopped to reload. One
> gun. That’s all it would have taken. But that campus, like all the
> others, is a “gun free zone”.
>
>
> To everyone except the killer.

It will be interesting to find out how a diagnosed psychopath could get
his hands on guns and how and why he was off his meds.

Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something, to
make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work, like
so many of the liberal idealists ideas.
--


"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message
news:vefdr39389srgqinoe6ahsrj6kle3tldda@4ax.com...
> http://www.kxmb.com/News/Nation/209747.asp
>
> DEKALB, Ill. - Another person shot when a gunman opened fire at a
> lecture hall at Northern Illinois University has died, bringing the
> toll to seven, including the gunman, a coroner said Friday.
>
>
>
> Investigators and school officials did not immediately know why
> the man indiscriminately fired into the crowd with a shotgun and two
> handguns Thursday, wounding 15 people and sending panicked students
> fleeing for the exits before killing himself.
>
>
>
> "We have no motive and I have no way of knowing what the motive
> was," University Police Chief Donald Grady said.
>
>
> At one time I was very against arming teachers or allowing qualified
> students to carry on campus. I'm not any more. These maniacs go to
> those schools KNOWING that their's will be the only gun there - until
> police arrive. And that can take minutes.
>
>
> If you know anything about guns, or ever fire on a range, take any
> semi-automatic pistol with, say, two extra loaded magazines, and see
> how long it will take you to fire every single round in those
> magazines. It doesn't take but a few seconds. Then imagine firing into
> a crowded room filled with unarmed people.
>
>
> Like shooting fish in a barrel.
>
>
>
> This one, like some others before him, even stopped to reload. One
> gun. That's all it would have taken. But that campus, like all the
> others, is a "gun free zone".
>
>
> To everyone except the killer.
> --
>
> Scott in Florida

And the liberals are STILL at it:

ISRA Action Alert - State Ammunition Ban


ISRA Alert:
AMMUNITION BAN BILLS ON THE MOVE IN ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY

A pair of ammunition ban bills are up for hearing in the House
Executive
Committee this week. If enacted, either of these bills would effectively
ban the
purchase of ammunition in Illinois. The bills in question are HB 4269
sponsored
by Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago), and HB 4349 sponsored by Rep. Naomi
Jakobsson
(D-Champaign).

Here is what passage of either of these bills would mean to you:
1. Ammunition manufacturers would be required to imprint a
secret code
on cartridge casings so that the purchaser of the ammunition could be
identified.

2. When you purchase ammunition, that secret code would be
registered to
your name.

3. All your ammunition purchases would be registered with the
Illinois
State Police.

4. You would be responsible for all eternity for ammunition
registered
to you.

5. It would be in your best interest to destroy all expended
ammunition
casings because an unaccounted for empty casing could be used to frame
you for a
crime you did not commit.

6. You would have to surrender all unregistered ammunition you
now own
to the Illinois State Police.

7. Reloading would be banned.

8. The Illinois Department of Revenue would be authorized to
place a tax
on ammunition and raise that tax any time for any reason.

9. Taxes and increased manufacturing costs would raise the price
of a
box of .45 ammo to $200 or more.

10. Gun ownership would become too costly for most people.


WHAT YOU MUST DO TO HELP SAVE YOUR GUN RIGHTS:

1. Call Rep. Monique Davis' office at (217) 782-0010 and
POLITELY tell
the person that answers that you are a law-abiding gun owner and you
would
oppose Rep. Davis' attempt to ban ammunition.

2. Call Rep. Naomi Jakobsson's offce at (217) 558-1009 and
POLITELY tell
the person that answers that you are a law-abiding gun owner and you
would
oppose Rep. Jakobsson's attempt to ban ammunition.

3. Call each of the following members of the House Executive
Committee
and POLITELY tell whoever answers the phone that you OPPOSE HB4269 and
HB4349
and that you would like them to vote against those bills in the
Executive
Committee. Remember, you represent the gun owners of this state, so BE
POLITE:

Rep. Dan Burke (D-Chicago) (217) 782-1117
Rep Joseph Lyons (D-Chicago) (217) 782-8400
Rep. Dan Brady (R-Bloomington) (217) 782-1118
Rep. Eddie Acevedo (D-Chicago) (217) 782-2855
Rep. Maria Antonia Berrios (D-Chicago) (217) 558-1032
Rep. Bob Biggins (R-Elmhurst) (217) 782-6578
Rep Michael Bradley (D-Chicago) (217) 782-8117
Rep. Brent Hassert (R-Romeoville) (217) 782-4179
Rep. Jim Meyer (R-Naperville) (217) 782-8028
Rep. Robert Molaro (D-Chicago) (217) 782-5280
Rep. Bob Rita (D-Crestwood) (217) 558-1000
Rep. Angelo Saviano (R-River Grove) (217) 782-3374
Rep. Arthur Turner (D-Chicago) (217) 782-8116

4. Please pass this alert along to all your gun-owning friends
and ask
them to make calls as well.

5. Please post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin
boards to
which you may belong.

Remember - gun control is a disease, you are the cure!

Click here for a version of this alert designed for printing (pdf,
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On 2008-02-16 04:27:13 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:

> Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something, to
> make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work, like
> so many of the liberal idealists ideas.

Kind of like denying people guns that YOU don't think they should own,
right dbu?

"dbu" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-FB684E.06271316022008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...


>
> It will be interesting to find out how a diagnosed psychopath could get
> his hands on guns and how and why he was off his meds.

The system is broken. You should sit face to face with your elected
Washington barnacle and find out what they intend to do about it. Also ask
about the immense problems involved with stopping lunatics from owning guns.

You won't do this, but I thought it would be fun to suggest.



> Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something, to
> make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work, like
> so many of the liberal idealists ideas.


You're right. They're stupid. But, so is any legal gun owner who obeys those
no-guns-allowed rules. If you're carrying concealed PROPERLY, there's only
one way your gun will be discovered: When you use it to stop a senseless
attack. Then you'll be a hero and nobody will care that you broke their
silly rule.

By the way, next time you're at a mall, read the posted rules and report
back to us about what those rules REALLY say about carrying a gun in the
mall.

On 2008-02-16 05:48:09 -0800, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> said:

> If you're carrying concealed PROPERLY, there's only
> one way your gun will be discovered: When you use it to stop a senseless
> attack. Then you'll be a hero and nobody will care that you broke their
> silly rule.

Exactly. But dbu doesn't think people should own guns that HE thinks
are unnecessary. He's proclaimed himself to be the arbiter of what
consitutes an evil or useful weapon. It's got a pistol grip and a 20
round magazine??!!??? No way you should own one, caliber be damned.

Talk about a liberal mindset.

In article <fp6p2s$1ii$1@news.albasani.net>, witfal <nospam@all4.me>
wrote:

> On 2008-02-16 04:27:13 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:
>
> > Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something, to
> > make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work, like
> > so many of the liberal idealists ideas.
>
> Kind of like denying people guns that YOU don't think they should own,
> right dbu?

Look stupid, I don't think crooks and psychopaths should own guns. If
you think they have some God given right then maybe you are one of them.
--


"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

On 2008-02-16 06:45:40 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:

> In article <fp6p2s$1ii$1@news.albasani.net>, witfal <nospam@all4.me>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2008-02-16 04:27:13 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:
>>
>>> Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something, to
>>> make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work, like
>>> so many of the liberal idealists ideas.
>>
>> Kind of like denying people guns that YOU don't think they should own,
>> right dbu?
>
> Look stupid

Yes, you do.

> I don't think crooks and psychopaths should own guns. If
> you think they have some God given right then maybe you are one of them.

Neither do I. But that opinion is not what I was referring to. Your
previous posts on guns YOU feel should be restricted from everyone is
what I was mentioning. No backpedaling allowed, dbu.

Do try to keep up.

In article <fp6t6r$aqk$1@news.albasani.net>, witfal <nospam@all4.me>
wrote:

> On 2008-02-16 06:45:40 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:
>
> > In article <fp6p2s$1ii$1@news.albasani.net>, witfal <nospam@all4.me>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-02-16 04:27:13 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:
> >>
> >>> Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something, to
> >>> make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work, like
> >>> so many of the liberal idealists ideas.
> >>
> >> Kind of like denying people guns that YOU don't think they should own,
> >> right dbu?
> >
> > Look stupid
>
> Yes, you do.
>
> > I don't think crooks and psychopaths should own guns. If
> > you think they have some God given right then maybe you are one of them.
>
> Neither do I. But that opinion is not what I was referring to. Your
> previous posts on guns YOU feel should be restricted from everyone is
> what I was mentioning. No backpedaling allowed, dbu.
>
> Do try to keep up.

Put your little pointed hat on and sit in a corner. You haven't the
slightest idea of what's going on.
--


"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

"dbu" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-9553FF.08555216022008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <fp6t6r$aqk$1@news.albasani.net>, witfal <nospam@all4.me>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2008-02-16 06:45:40 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:
>>
>> > In article <fp6p2s$1ii$1@news.albasani.net>, witfal <nospam@all4.me>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2008-02-16 04:27:13 -0800, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> said:
>> >>
>> >>> Gun free zones are stupid. Another liberal idea to "do" something,
>> >>> to
>> >>> make it appear they are really doing something. It doesn't work,
>> >>> like
>> >>> so many of the liberal idealists ideas.
>> >>
>> >> Kind of like denying people guns that YOU don't think they should own,
>> >> right dbu?
>> >
>> > Look stupid
>>
>> Yes, you do.
>>
>> > I don't think crooks and psychopaths should own guns. If
>> > you think they have some God given right then maybe you are one of
>> > them.
>>
>> Neither do I. But that opinion is not what I was referring to. Your
>> previous posts on guns YOU feel should be restricted from everyone is
>> what I was mentioning. No backpedaling allowed, dbu.
>>
>> Do try to keep up.
>
> Put your little pointed hat on and sit in a corner. You haven't the
> slightest idea of what's going on.


Au contraire. witfal's referring to comments you've made in the past about
how certain weapons shouldn't be available to us.

Of course, that wouldn't have mattered in the most recent incident, since
the weapons you're opposed to were not the kind used by the shooter.