Hello everyone,

I'd appreciate your input - I know a lot about bodywork - but not
Cars, lol

I need to buy a used car: 02' - 04
Price range: Under $8,500
MPG: above 34 since I drive about 25,000
miles/y
Reliablitiy: High (of course)

I'd appreciate if you'd give me some feed-back, and let me know about
your experiences.
I'm thinking Toyota, Honda, but they may be a little out of my price
range.

Thanks a lot,
Stay warm and safe
D.

"Doralla" <drsandyridge@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd appreciate your input - I know a lot about bodywork - but not
> Cars, lol
>
> I need to buy a used car: 02' - 04
> Price range: Under $8,500
> MPG: above 34 since I drive about 25,000
> miles/y
> Reliablitiy: High (of course)
>
> I'd appreciate if you'd give me some feed-back, and let me know about
> your experiences.
> I'm thinking Toyota, Honda, but they may be a little out of my price
> range.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Stay warm and safe
> D.

Have you checked out www.Edmonds.com & www.kbb.com (Kelley Blue Book) for
the current private sales & retail prices of the used cars you're interested
in? Both Toyotas & Hondas should be plenty reliable.

Cathy

Doralla wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd appreciate your input - I know a lot about bodywork - but not
> Cars, lol
>
> I need to buy a used car: 02' - 04
> Price range: Under $8,500
> MPG: above 34 since I drive about 25,000
> miles/y
> Reliablitiy: High (of course)
>
> I'd appreciate if you'd give me some feed-back, and let me know about
> your experiences.
> I'm thinking Toyota, Honda, but they may be a little out of my price
> range.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Stay warm and safe
> D.

I don't think that there is a car that gets above 34 in your price
range, except for Toyotas, hondas, and maybe Nissans or Mazdas.

Jeff

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:35:54 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:

>
> "Doralla" <drsandyridge@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8a38d7b4-8ab2-4512-95f4-dba5cf051245@64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'd appreciate your input - I know a lot about bodywork - but not Cars,
>> lol
>>
>> I need to buy a used car: 02' - 04
>> Price range: Under $8,500 MPG:
>> above 34 since I drive about 25,000 miles/y
>> Reliablitiy: High (of course)
>>
>> I'd appreciate if you'd give me some feed-back, and let me know about
>> your experiences.
>> I'm thinking Toyota, Honda, but they may be a little out of my price
>> range.
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>> Stay warm and safe
>> D.
>
> Have you checked out www.Edmonds.com & www.kbb.com (Kelley Blue Book) for
> the current private sales & retail prices of the used cars you're
> interested in? Both Toyotas & Hondas should be plenty reliable.
>
> Cathy


Nah!

Here's a trick: Kelly and Edmonds are geared towards sellers. They always
hi-ball the values. I used to use them all the time to squeeze a few extra
bucks onto the 'window' price (of course, I knew I would sell the car for
much less...)

http://www.nadaguides.com is no-nonsense, this is an honest value for the
car guide.

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:Ns2uj.6449$wG2.6346@trndny09...
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:35:54 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>
>>
>> "Doralla" <drsandyridge@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8a38d7b4-8ab2-4512-95f4-dba5cf051245@64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate your input - I know a lot about bodywork - but not Cars,
>>> lol
>>>
>>> I need to buy a used car: 02' - 04
>>> Price range: Under $8,500 MPG:
>>> above 34 since I drive about 25,000 miles/y
>>> Reliablitiy: High (of course)
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate if you'd give me some feed-back, and let me know about
>>> your experiences.
>>> I'm thinking Toyota, Honda, but they may be a little out of my price
>>> range.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,
>>> Stay warm and safe
>>> D.
>>
>> Have you checked out www.Edmonds.com & www.kbb.com (Kelley Blue Book) for
>> the current private sales & retail prices of the used cars you're
>> interested in? Both Toyotas & Hondas should be plenty reliable.
>>
>> Cathy
>
>
> Nah!
>
> Here's a trick: Kelly and Edmonds are geared towards sellers. They always
> hi-ball the values. I used to use them all the time to squeeze a few extra
> bucks onto the 'window' price (of course, I knew I would sell the car for
> much less...)

Hmmmm... unless thye've changed a lot in the last 3+ years, worked well for
me for the last 2 car sales/trade-ins.

Cathy


>
> http://www.nadaguides.com is no-nonsense, this is an honest value for the
> car guide.
>
>

"Doralla" <drsandyridge@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8a38d7b4-8ab2-4512-95f4-dba5cf051245@64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd appreciate your input - I know a lot about bodywork - but not
> Cars, lol
>
> I need to buy a used car: 02' - 04
> Price range: Under $8,500
> MPG: above 34 since I drive about 25,000
> miles/y
> Reliablitiy: High (of course)
>
> I'd appreciate if you'd give me some feed-back, and let me know about
> your experiences.
> I'm thinking Toyota, Honda, but they may be a little out of my price
> range.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Stay warm and safe
> D.

Up here in Canada, Hondas tend to be driven by ricers and other gang
members.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:24:03 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:

>> Here's a trick: Kelly and Edmonds are geared towards sellers. They
>> always hi-ball the values. I used to use them all the time to squeeze a
>> few extra bucks onto the 'window' price (of course, I knew I would sell
>> the car for much less...)
>
> Hmmmm... unless thye've changed a lot in the last 3+ years, worked well
> for me for the last 2 car sales/trade-ins.
>
> Cathy


(um...you got taken...)

Of course! If you agreed to the Kelley price!
If you had stuck them with the NADA price, you probably could have saved a
few hundred, at least!
More like >$1,000...

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:gm6uj.12063$MY2.208@trndny07...
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:24:03 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>
>>> Here's a trick: Kelly and Edmonds are geared towards sellers. They
>>> always hi-ball the values. I used to use them all the time to squeeze a
>>> few extra bucks onto the 'window' price (of course, I knew I would sell
>>> the car for much less...)
>>
>> Hmmmm... unless thye've changed a lot in the last 3+ years, worked well
>> for me for the last 2 car sales/trade-ins.
>>
>> Cathy
>
>
> (um...you got taken...)

Nope. See below.

>
> Of course! If you agreed to the Kelley price!
> If you had stuck them with the NADA price, you probably could have saved a
> few hundred, at least!
> More like >$1,000...

Ah, but I was on the (private) seller's and trade-in end - I was getting rid
of my old car & buying a new car each time. Yes, I know that you'd said you
think those 2 sources are skewed on the seller's end.

OTOH, one has to assume the Toyota dealership knew the trade-in prices for
used Toyotas, & for the other deal my buyer had done their own research,
so... IOW, the numbers appeared to match up on both sides. Of course, I will
add in this 3rd source for future reference, & then next time I'm
researching prices, will likely see how they all line up with each other.

Cathy

"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:gm6uj.12063$MY2.208@trndny07...
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:24:03 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>>
>>>> Here's a trick: Kelly and Edmonds are geared towards sellers. They
>>>> always hi-ball the values. I used to use them all the time to squeeze a
>>>> few extra bucks onto the 'window' price (of course, I knew I would sell
>>>> the car for much less...)
>>>
>>> Hmmmm... unless thye've changed a lot in the last 3+ years, worked well
>>> for me for the last 2 car sales/trade-ins.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> (um...you got taken...)
>
> Nope. See below.
>
>>
>> Of course! If you agreed to the Kelley price!
>> If you had stuck them with the NADA price, you probably could have saved
>> a
>> few hundred, at least!
>> More like >$1,000...
>
> Ah, but I was on the (private) seller's and trade-in end - I was getting
> rid of my old car & buying a new car each time. Yes, I know that you'd
> said you think those 2 sources are skewed on the seller's end.
>
> OTOH, one has to assume the Toyota dealership knew the trade-in prices for
> used Toyotas, & for the other deal my buyer had done their own research,
> so... IOW, the numbers appeared to match up on both sides. Of course, I
> will add in this 3rd source for future reference, & then next time I'm
> researching prices, will likely see how they all line up with each other.
>
> Cathy

Cathy, the KBB prices are always on the high end, plus.
so the dealer can show the book and show how his car is selling "UNDER" blue
book! wow.
It reminds me of the story of the little kid who was taking his new dog
for a walk. Another kid asked "What'd you pay for him?"
and the kid replied "A thousand dollars."
"What? Where'd you get a thousand dollars?"
"I didn't pay cash, but I traded two five hundred dollar cats for
him........."

"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
> news:GaOdnYT7EYqtayXa4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:gm6uj.12063$MY2.208@trndny07...
>>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:24:03 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Here's a trick: Kelly and Edmonds are geared towards sellers. They
>>>>> always hi-ball the values. I used to use them all the time to squeeze
>>>>> a
>>>>> few extra bucks onto the 'window' price (of course, I knew I would
>>>>> sell
>>>>> the car for much less...)
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm... unless thye've changed a lot in the last 3+ years, worked well
>>>> for me for the last 2 car sales/trade-ins.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> (um...you got taken...)
>>
>> Nope. See below.
>>
>>>
>>> Of course! If you agreed to the Kelley price!
>>> If you had stuck them with the NADA price, you probably could have saved
>>> a
>>> few hundred, at least!
>>> More like >$1,000...
>>
>> Ah, but I was on the (private) seller's and trade-in end - I was getting
>> rid of my old car & buying a new car each time. Yes, I know that you'd
>> said you think those 2 sources are skewed on the seller's end.
>>
>> OTOH, one has to assume the Toyota dealership knew the trade-in prices
>> for used Toyotas, & for the other deal my buyer had done their own
>> research, so... IOW, the numbers appeared to match up on both sides. Of
>> course, I will add in this 3rd source for future reference, & then next
>> time I'm researching prices, will likely see how they all line up with
>> each other.
>>
>> Cathy
>
> Cathy, the KBB prices are always on the high end, plus.
> so the dealer can show the book and show how his car is selling "UNDER"
> blue book! wow.

For all three prospects? Trade-in, private sale, & retail? The last time I
checked both the KBB & Edmonds for a used car's value(s), they were only
~$50 apart - & I don't remember which one was the higher & which the lower.

Cathy




> It reminds me of the story of the little kid who was taking his new dog
> for a walk. Another kid asked "What'd you pay for him?"
> and the kid replied "A thousand dollars."
> "What? Where'd you get a thousand dollars?"
> "I didn't pay cash, but I traded two five hundred dollar cats for
> him........."

I uised a combo of the Kelley Blue Book & Edmonds. They were only ~$50
aopaprt.
>
>