On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:

>
> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are getting
> for millage

I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:25:15 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@ae86.gts>
wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:
>
>>
>> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are getting
>> for millage
>
>I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...
>

Yeah but you didn't have to haul around an electric motor and big
heavy batteries!

On 2008-04-08 07:10:35 -0700, Retired VIP
<jackj.extradots.180@windstream.net> said:

> On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:25:15 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@ae86.gts>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are getting
>>> for millage
>>
>> I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...
>>
>
> Yeah but you didn't have to haul around an electric motor and big
> heavy batteries!

Amazing, huh? Yet another example of the "waste" of the Prius. All
that energy used in the manufacturing of batteries and other needed
devices, and it gets bested by a Tercel at a far lower cost, even when
new. If one is so inclined to buy one, they should compare the "carbon
footprints" (I hate that term) created to make both.

The Emperor truly has no clothes.

--
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A motorcycle with two up will not get 45 MPG, where were you driving at the
time, down a mountain? You certain would not get that kind of mileage
going UP a mountain



"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:fIAKj.7263$qB1.1807@trnddc07...
> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:
>
>>
>> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are
>> getting
>> for millage
>
> I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...
>
>

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:05:56 -0400, "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22@lycos.com>
wrote:

>A motorcycle with two up will not get 45 MPG, where were you driving at the
>time, down a mountain? You certain would not get that kind of mileage
>going UP a mountain
>
>
>
>"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>news:fIAKj.7263$qB1.1807@trnddc07...
>> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are
>>> getting
>>> for millage
>>
>> I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...
>>
>>
>

Back in 1966 to 1968, I used to ride a '64 Honda 160 cc bike to work
and back. A total of just less than 50 miles a day. The bike had a
2.5 gal tank that would last me for 4 days. My figures seem to
indicate that the bike got around 80 mpg running between 45 and 65
mph.

Jack

witfal wrote:
> On 2008-04-08 07:10:35 -0700, Retired VIP
> <jackj.extradots.180@windstream.net> said:
>
> > On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:25:15 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@ae86.gts>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are getting
> >>> for millage
> >>
> >> I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...
> >>
> >
> > Yeah but you didn't have to haul around an electric motor and big
> > heavy batteries!
>
> Amazing, huh? Yet another example of the "waste" of the Prius. All
> that energy used in the manufacturing of batteries and other needed
> devices, and it gets bested by a Tercel at a far lower cost, even when
> new. If one is so inclined to buy one, they should compare the "carbon
> footprints" (I hate that term) created to make both.
>
> The Emperor truly has no clothes.

How much energy is used and pollution generated in the manufacture of
a single conventional car vs. a hybrid, and over the typical lifespan
of each, what are the total energy useage and pollution output of
each?

I'm sure you know the answers; otherwise your pronouncement is overly
bold.

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:05:56 -0400, Mike hunt wrote:

>
> A motorcycle with two up will not get 45 MPG, where were you driving at
> the time, down a mountain? You certain would not get that kind of
> mileage going UP a mountain


Local driving at speeds of 45-70MPH. I get exceptional mileage from all my
cars, I think because the way the roads are here I can get into the most
efficient operating range for the engine easily.

It certainly isn't from keeping my foot out of the throttle...

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:10:35 +0000, Retired VIP wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:25:15 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:46:16 -0700, RonFromNY wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I am getting about 40mpg on average, and wondering what people are
>>> getting for millage
>>
>>I did better than that with a $1400 Tercel. 45MPG w/ an AT and AC...
>>
>>
> Yeah but you didn't have to haul around an electric motor and big heavy
> batteries!

Why, yes, this is ture.

So if it weren't for the electric motor and the batteries, the Prius would
get 60MPG.

From the same engine that was in my Tercel???

I don't yet see the point of a prius or any 'hybrid' yet. When you
consider price and other alternatives (as was mentioned) such as the
corolla which gets equal mileage to the yaris and xd or even better.

The disposal of the prius and it's batteries is another impact on the
environment.. I think people just buy them for the (implied?) cache' .
They are gutless to drive and smaller than the corolla inside.

On 2008-04-08 21:15:16 -0700, pisanochas@webtv.net (Charles Pisano) said:

> I don't yet see the point of a prius or any 'hybrid' yet. When you
> consider price and other alternatives (as was mentioned) such as the
> corolla which gets equal mileage to the yaris and xd or even better.

Thank you.

> The disposal of the prius and it's batteries is another impact on the
> environment.. I think people just buy them for the (implied?) cache' .
> They are gutless to drive and smaller than the corolla inside.

Not to speak of the energy-production cost-to-energy return ratio.

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Lawbreakers are so feared by the cowards in this country that otherwise
intelligent people are reduced to infringing on my rights.