hi there. i am a first time poster here, but a long time diesel mechanic.
my niece has a 94 tercel. she went shopping, and came out of the store to a
dead car. i finally got the car home today and started troubleshooting it.
i get power to the main lug on the starter, but nothing to the trigger wire
for the solenoid with the key turned to start.
i know nothing about these cars, and she does not have an owners manual or
service manual for it.
i am thinking it has a bad fuse or fusible link, but am at a loss to where i
should even start looking.
i did a search, but could only find crank but no start issues.

if anyone could possibly point me in the proper direction, i would greatly
appreciate it.


thanks in advance,

Tom.

"Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> hi there. i am a first time poster here, but a long time diesel mechanic.
> my niece has a 94 tercel. she went shopping, and came out of the store to
> a dead car. i finally got the car home today and started troubleshooting
> it.
> i get power to the main lug on the starter, but nothing to the trigger
> wire for the solenoid with the key turned to start.
> i know nothing about these cars, and she does not have an owners manual or
> service manual for it.
> i am thinking it has a bad fuse or fusible link, but am at a loss to where
> i should even start looking.
> i did a search, but could only find crank but no start issues.
>
> if anyone could possibly point me in the proper direction, i would greatly
> appreciate it.
>
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Tom.

The contacts for the solenoid may be worn. Look for contacts at a dealer or
local parts store, remove the starter and then the solenoid from the starter
and replace the contacts.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

the problem is not in the solenoid, it is before it. i get no power to
trigger the solenoid.
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:47fe9cca$0$25039$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> hi there. i am a first time poster here, but a long time diesel mechanic.
>> my niece has a 94 tercel. she went shopping, and came out of the store to
>> a dead car. i finally got the car home today and started troubleshooting
>> it.
>> i get power to the main lug on the starter, but nothing to the trigger
>> wire for the solenoid with the key turned to start.
>> i know nothing about these cars, and she does not have an owners manual
>> or service manual for it.
>> i am thinking it has a bad fuse or fusible link, but am at a loss to
>> where i should even start looking.
>> i did a search, but could only find crank but no start issues.
>>
>> if anyone could possibly point me in the proper direction, i would
>> greatly appreciate it.
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>>
>> Tom.
>
> The contacts for the solenoid may be worn. Look for contacts at a dealer
> or local parts store, remove the starter and then the solenoid from the
> starter and replace the contacts.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

Tom wrote:
> the problem is not in the solenoid, it is before it. i get no power to
> trigger the solenoid.
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:47fe9cca$0$25039$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> hi there. i am a first time poster here, but a long time diesel mechanic.
>>> my niece has a 94 tercel. she went shopping, and came out of the store to
>>> a dead car. i finally got the car home today and started troubleshooting
>>> it.
>>> i get power to the main lug on the starter, but nothing to the trigger
>>> wire for the solenoid with the key turned to start.
>>> i know nothing about these cars, and she does not have an owners manual
>>> or service manual for it.
>>> i am thinking it has a bad fuse or fusible link, but am at a loss to
>>> where i should even start looking.
>>> i did a search, but could only find crank but no start issues.
>>>
>>> if anyone could possibly point me in the proper direction, i would
>>> greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Tom.
>> The contacts for the solenoid may be worn. Look for contacts at a dealer
>> or local parts store, remove the starter and then the solenoid from the
>> starter and replace the contacts.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>
>
Maybe the start relay (between the ignition switch and the solenoid,
follow the blk/blu wire I think) or possibly the neutral or clutch
safety start switch.

I think that the location of the start relay is in the junction block on
the drivers side, but I'm not absolutely certain.

On Apr 11, 7:05*am, "Ph@Boy" <u...@example.net> wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> > the problem is not in the solenoid, it is before it. i get no power to
> > trigger the solenoid.
> > "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> >news:b66dnTOUsM6_VGPanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> "Tom" <tjctransp...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >>news:47fe9cca$0$25039$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >>> hi there. i am a first time poster here, but a long time diesel mechanic.
> >>> my niece has a 94 tercel. she went shopping, and came out of the storeto
> >>> a dead car. i finally got the car home today and started troubleshooting
> >>> it.
> >>> i get power to the main lug on the starter, but nothing to the trigger
> >>> wire for the solenoid with the key turned to start.
> >>> i know nothing about these cars, and she does not have an owners manual
> >>> or service manual for it.
> >>> i am thinking it has a bad fuse or fusible link, but am at a loss to
> >>> where i should even start looking.
> >>> i did a search, but could only find crank but no start issues.
>
> >>> if anyone could possibly point me in the proper direction, i would
> >>> greatly appreciate it.
>
> >>> thanks in advance,
>
> >>> Tom.
> >> The contacts for the solenoid may be worn. *Look for contacts at a dealer
> >> or local parts store, remove the starter and then the solenoid from the
> >> starter and replace the contacts.
> >> --
>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
> Maybe the start relay (between the ignition switch and the solenoid,
> follow the blk/blu wire I think) or possibly the neutral or clutch
> safety start switch.
>
> I think that the location of the start relay is in the junction block on
> the drivers side, but I'm not absolutely certain.

The OP can always visit http://techinfo.toyota.com. It is $10/day to
access but any and everything you generally need can be found there
including TSB's, repair manuals, HOWTO's, etc..

Your $10/day is for a 24 hour period although I will say when I did
it, my login was a good couple days but YMMV.

"Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> the problem is not in the solenoid, it is before it. i get no power to
> trigger the solenoid.

Check battery voltage - the ECM needs something like 11.something volts to
work.

As Ph@Boy suggested, check the neutral start/clutch safety switch for
continuity.

If there is an aftermarket remote starter or security system, check that
stuff out.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

where will i find the N.S.S? i am a diesel mechalic, and know almost nothing
about foreign cars.
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:47ff2701$0$5639$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> the problem is not in the solenoid, it is before it. i get no power to
>> trigger the solenoid.
>
> Check battery voltage - the ECM needs something like 11.something volts to
> work.
>
> As Ph@Boy suggested, check the neutral start/clutch safety switch for
> continuity.
>
> If there is an aftermarket remote starter or security system, check that
> stuff out.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

"Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> where will i find the N.S.S? i am a diesel mechalic, and know almost
> nothing about foreign cars.
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:m4WdnRbE08XPtp3VnZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:47ff2701$0$5639$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> the problem is not in the solenoid, it is before it. i get no power to
>>> trigger the solenoid.
>>
>> Check battery voltage - the ECM needs something like 11.something volts
>> to work.
>>
>> As Ph@Boy suggested, check the neutral start/clutch safety switch for
>> continuity.
>>
>> If there is an aftermarket remote starter or security system, check that
>> stuff out.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>

The neutral safety switch is mounted on the transmission where the shift
cable attaches to the lever on the transmission case. Here is the procedure
to adjust it:

http://tinyurl.com/5dkns7

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us...80/1b/89/72/09
00823d801b8972/repairInfoPages.htm

If none of those links work, go to www.autozone.com, look up the repair
guides for a 1994 Toyota Tercel, go the to the drivetrain link, then under
automatic transaxle.

The instructions are not clear on how to check continuity on the switch, but
with the transmission in park or neutral, unplug the connector and see if
there is continuity between two of the terminals.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

I have gotten a chance to look at the car this morning, and found the 15 amp
AM-2 fuse is blown.
as soon as i turn the key to the run position, it dead shorts this circuit.
so i have gotten a little farther along, but am still dead in the water.

"Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> I have gotten a chance to look at the car this morning, and found the 15
> amp AM-2 fuse is blown.
> as soon as i turn the key to the run position, it dead shorts this
> circuit.
> so i have gotten a little farther along, but am still dead in the water.
Is there an aftermarket remote starter or alarm installed in the car? If
so, check the wiring for that stuff.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)