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Old 04-13-2008, 01:38 AM
Don't Taze Me, Bro!
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upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried for
treason...

of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released that
treasonous book...

He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...

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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried for
> treason...
>
> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released that
> treasonous book...
>
> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...


Why don't you actually support your argument (if you have one) with
evidence and details? You should include exactly what he did that you
think was treason, why it was treason, and details about how the book
was treason. You probably should also look up the word 'treason' in the
dictionary, so it at least looks like you have a clue.

Jeff
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried for
>> treason...
>>
>> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released that
>> treasonous book...
>>
>> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...

>
> Why don't you actually support your argument (if you have one) with
> evidence and details? You should include exactly what he did that you
> think was treason, why it was treason, and details about how the book was
> treason. You probably should also look up the word 'treason' in the
> dictionary, so it at least looks like you have a clue.
>
> Jeff


You mean beyond going to Syria and meeting with the head of a terrorist
state?

What else needs to be said?



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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> newsLbMj.104$SR2.74@trndny03...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried
>>> for treason...
>>>
>>> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released
>>> that treasonous book...
>>>
>>> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...

>>
>> Why don't you actually support your argument (if you have one) with
>> evidence and details? You should include exactly what he did that you
>> think was treason, why it was treason, and details about how the book
>> was treason. You probably should also look up the word 'treason' in
>> the dictionary, so it at least looks like you have a clue.
>>
>> Jeff

>
> You mean beyond going to Syria and meeting with the head of a terrorist
> state?
>
> What else needs to be said?


Why this is treason. Article III of the Constitution of the US states,
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War
against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and
Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony
of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but
no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture
except during the Life of the Person attainted."

IMHO, Carter's actions does not constitute treason.

Please explain why that is any different than Bush's support of Israel
or the support of terrorist regimes that the US has supported in the
past, including both Iran and Iraq during their conflicts.

You may not like what he said in his books or that he is visiting with
terrorist heads of state, but, books and visits do not constistute treason.

jeff
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried for
> treason...
>
> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released that
> treasonous book...
>
> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...


Yeah - and just recently he was described on this ng as "erudite".

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:T0cMj.102$ob2.52@trndny07...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsLbMj.104$SR2.74@trndny03...
>>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>>> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried
>>>> for treason...
>>>>
>>>> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released that
>>>> treasonous book...
>>>>
>>>> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...
>>>
>>> Why don't you actually support your argument (if you have one) with
>>> evidence and details? You should include exactly what he did that you
>>> think was treason, why it was treason, and details about how the book
>>> was treason. You probably should also look up the word 'treason' in the
>>> dictionary, so it at least looks like you have a clue.
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>> You mean beyond going to Syria and meeting with the head of a terrorist
>> state?
>>
>> What else needs to be said?

>
> Why this is treason. Article III of the Constitution of the US states,
> "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War
> against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and
> Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony
> of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."
>


I like the adhering to enemies part, followed by the giving aid part, not to
ignore the giving comfort part.




> The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no
> Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except
> during the Life of the Person attainted."
>
> IMHO, Carter's actions does not constitute treason.
>
> Please explain why that is any different than Bush's support of Israel or
> the support of terrorist regimes that the US has supported in the past,
> including both Iran and Iraq during their conflicts.
>


The official polilcy of the USA is to support Israel, another official
polilcy is that Syria is a terrorist state. In short, Israel is our friend,
Syria is not. Surely even you can see the difference.

Iran and Iraq both denounced their relationship with the USA. Things change.
Iran and Iraq both claim America is their enemy. They can not be our friend
while we are their enemy.


> You may not like what he said in his books or that he is visiting with
> terrorist heads of state, but, books and visits do not constistute
> treason.
>


Actually, the whole aid and comfort stuff comes into play with the
visitation. Jimmy Carter is a disgrace to the country and to the office of
the President.






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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:T0cMj.102$ob2.52@trndny07...
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> newsLbMj.104$SR2.74@trndny03...
>>>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>>>> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and
>>>>> tried for treason...
>>>>>
>>>>> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released
>>>>> that treasonous book...
>>>>>
>>>>> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you actually support your argument (if you have one) with
>>>> evidence and details? You should include exactly what he did that
>>>> you think was treason, why it was treason, and details about how the
>>>> book was treason. You probably should also look up the word
>>>> 'treason' in the dictionary, so it at least looks like you have a clue.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> You mean beyond going to Syria and meeting with the head of a
>>> terrorist state?
>>>
>>> What else needs to be said?

>>
>> Why this is treason. Article III of the Constitution of the US states,
>> "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War
>> against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and
>> Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the
>> Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in
>> open Court."
>>

>
> I like the adhering to enemies part, followed by the giving aid part,
> not to ignore the giving comfort part.
>
>
>
>
>> The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason,
>> but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or
>> Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."
>>
>> IMHO, Carter's actions does not constitute treason.
>>
>> Please explain why that is any different than Bush's support of Israel
>> or the support of terrorist regimes that the US has supported in the
>> past, including both Iran and Iraq during their conflicts.
>>

>
> The official polilcy of the USA is to support Israel, another official
> polilcy is that Syria is a terrorist state. In short, Israel is our
> friend, Syria is not. Surely even you can see the difference.


Please show the law that says visiting Syria's head of state is treason.

You may or may not agree with Carter's actions, but you have yet to show
why going into Syria and visiting the head of state is treason.

> Iran and Iraq both denounced their relationship with the USA. Things
> change. Iran and Iraq both claim America is their enemy. They can not be
> our friend while we are their enemy.


I don't recall the present Iraqi government claiming the US is the
Iraq's enemy. Things change.

None the less, providing weapons to two parties so that they can wage
war against each other is repugnant, IMHO.

>> You may not like what he said in his books or that he is visiting with
>> terrorist heads of state, but, books and visits do not constistute
>> treason.
>>

>
> Actually, the whole aid and comfort stuff comes into play with the
> visitation. Jimmy Carter is a disgrace to the country and to the office
> of the President.


Please explain what aid and comfort Jimmy Carter gave.

And, while the US Gov't considers Syria to be a terror-supporting state,
when was it declared an enemy?

Jeff
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't recall the present Iraqi government claiming the US is the Iraq's
> enemy. Things change.
>


Present government, no. But we are not attacking the present government, we
are building it. As of now, Iraq is our friend because the government that
avowed itself as our enemy is gone.




> None the less, providing weapons to two parties so that they can wage war
> against each other is repugnant, IMHO.
>


I don't remember anybody asking your humble opinion.





>>> You may not like what he said in his books or that he is visiting with
>>> terrorist heads of state, but, books and visits do not constistute
>>> treason.
>>>

>>
>> Actually, the whole aid and comfort stuff comes into play with the
>> visitation. Jimmy Carter is a disgrace to the country and to the office
>> of the President.

>
> Please explain what aid and comfort Jimmy Carter gave.
>


The past Head of State gives lots of aid and comfort just by recognizing the
scumbags that run Syria.



> And, while the US Gov't considers Syria to be a terror-supporting state,
> when was it declared an enemy?
>


When it made the list of terrorist states. Syria has long been an enemy of
the USA. I can not recall that it was ever NOT an enemy of the USA.



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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:36:06 GMT, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!"
<No2Exists1@Earth71.net> wrote:

>upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and tried for
>treason...
>
>of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released that
>treasonous book...
>
>He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...


I don't agree with you too many times, but this is one that I do.

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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4xcMj.2162$vz2.260@trndny05...
>>
>> I don't recall the present Iraqi government claiming the US is the
>> Iraq's enemy. Things change.
>>

>
> Present government, no. But we are not attacking the present government,
> we are building it. As of now, Iraq is our friend because the government
> that avowed itself as our enemy is gone.


Interesting how you delete your claim "Iran and Iraq both claim America
is their enemy." (See my original reply below.) Could you please explain
what you meant by this? One would hope that you know that the US is in
Iraq trying to secure the peace, something that the US had no plan for
when it invaded Iraq in 2003.

>> None the less, providing weapons to two parties so that they can wage
>> war against each other is repugnant, IMHO.
>>

>
> I don't remember anybody asking your humble opinion.


Great comeback! You should print it out so you can remember it!

Obviously, you have no way to support the US's support of two warring
parties so they kill each other.

>>>> You may not like what he said in his books or that he is visiting
>>>> with terrorist heads of state, but, books and visits do not
>>>> constistute treason.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, the whole aid and comfort stuff comes into play with the
>>> visitation. Jimmy Carter is a disgrace to the country and to the
>>> office of the President.

>>
>> Please explain what aid and comfort Jimmy Carter gave.
>>

>
> The past Head of State gives lots of aid and comfort just by recognizing
> the scumbags that run Syria.


The US gov't recognizes the heads of state of Syria. They don't like
them, but they recognize them.

Please show the law that was broken.

>> And, while the US Gov't considers Syria to be a terror-supporting
>> state, when was it declared an enemy?
>>

>
> When it made the list of terrorist states. Syria has long been an enemy
> of the USA. I can not recall that it was ever NOT an enemy of the USA.


Then you need to read the history of the area. Syria was declared a
terrorist supporting state in 1979. Just who was the President at the
time? Hint: He has a Noble Peace Prize.

Have a great evening!

Jeff

My previous message:

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:T0cMj.102$ob2.52@trndny07...
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message

newsLbMj.104$SR2.74@trndny03...
>>>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>>>> upon his return to the United States, he should be arrested and

tried for treason...
>>>>>
>>>>> of course, he should have been tried for treason when he released

that treasonous book...
>>>>>
>>>>> He is a typical Klan Dragon in liberal clothing...
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you actually support your argument (if you have one)

with evidence and details? You should include exactly what he did that
you think was treason, why it was treason, and details about how the
book was treason. You probably should also look up the word 'treason' in
the dictionary, so it at least looks like you have a clue.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> You mean beyond going to Syria and meeting with the head of a

terrorist state?
>>>
>>> What else needs to be said?

>>
>> Why this is treason. Article III of the Constitution of the US

states, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying War
>> against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and

Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony
of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."
>>

>
> I like the adhering to enemies part, followed by the giving aid part,

not to ignore the giving comfort part.
>
>
>
>
>> The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason,

but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or
Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."
>>
>> IMHO, Carter's actions does not constitute treason.
>>
>> Please explain why that is any different than Bush's support of

Israel or the support of terrorist regimes that the US has supported in
the past, including both Iran and Iraq during their conflicts.
>>

>
> The official polilcy of the USA is to support Israel, another

official polilcy is that Syria is a terrorist state. In short, Israel is
our friend, Syria is not. Surely even you can see the difference.

Please show the law that says visiting Syria's head of state is treason.

You may or may not agree with Carter's actions, but you have yet to show
why going into Syria and visiting the head of state is treason.

> Iran and Iraq both denounced their relationship with the USA. Things

change. Iran and Iraq both claim America is their enemy. They can not be
our friend while we are their enemy.

I don't recall the present Iraqi government claiming the US is the
Iraq's enemy. Things change.

None the less, providing weapons to two parties so that they can wage
war against each other is repugnant, IMHO.

>> You may not like what he said in his books or that he is visiting

with terrorist heads of state, but, books and visits do not constistute
treason.
>>

>
> Actually, the whole aid and comfort stuff comes into play with the

visitation. Jimmy Carter is a disgrace to the country and to the office
of the President.

Please explain what aid and comfort Jimmy Carter gave.

And, while the US Gov't considers Syria to be a terror-supporting state,
when was it declared an enemy?

Jeff
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