{OT} aclu says panhandling is free speech

#1 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia is
promising a legal challenge if Richmond City Council approves an
ordinance tonight that would ban panhandling. The proposed ordinance
would prohibit people from soliciting money in the Central Business
District and near outdoor restaurants and ATMs. The ACLU sent a letter
to council members over the weekend saying the proposed ban violates
the Constitution's guarantee of free speech. The group says it will
offer legal representation to panhandlers affected by the ordinance.
ACLU of Virginia executive director Kent Willis says the city has a
right to regulate panhandlers to make sure they aren't intimidating
people, but it can't just ban the practice outright.

http://www.wtvr.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=menu79_2

#2 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia is
> promising a legal challenge if Richmond City Council approves an
> ordinance tonight that would ban panhandling. The proposed ordinance
> would prohibit people from soliciting money in the Central Business
> District and near outdoor restaurants and ATMs. The ACLU sent a letter
> to council members over the weekend saying the proposed ban violates
> the Constitution's guarantee of free speech. The group says it will
> offer legal representation to panhandlers affected by the ordinance.
> ACLU of Virginia executive director Kent Willis says the city has a
> right to regulate panhandlers to make sure they aren't intimidating
> people, but it can't just ban the practice outright.
>
> http://www.wtvr.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=menu79_2

What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling is free
speech?

#3 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,3:37:54 PM, wrote:

> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0eto8qtgigxt004@news.readfreenews.net...
> > RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia
> > is promising a legal challenge if Richmond City Council approves an
> > ordinance tonight that would ban panhandling. The proposed ordinance
> > would prohibit people from soliciting money in the Central Business
> > District and near outdoor restaurants and ATMs. The ACLU sent a
> > letter to council members over the weekend saying the proposed ban
> > violates the Constitution's guarantee of free speech. The group
> > says it will offer legal representation to panhandlers affected by
> > the ordinance. ACLU of Virginia executive director Kent Willis
> > says the city has a right to regulate panhandlers to make sure they
> > aren't intimidating people, but it can't just ban the practice
> > outright.
> >
> > http://www.wtvr.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=menu79_2
>
>
> What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling is
> free speech?

I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court and
exercise their free speech.

#4 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:38:25 -0500, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,3:37:54 PM, wrote:
>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0eto8qtgigxt004@news.readfreenews.net...
>> > RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia
>> > is promising a legal challenge if Richmond City Council approves an
>> > ordinance tonight that would ban panhandling. The proposed ordinance
>> > would prohibit people from soliciting money in the Central Business
>> > District and near outdoor restaurants and ATMs. The ACLU sent a
>> > letter to council members over the weekend saying the proposed ban
>> > violates the Constitution's guarantee of free speech. The group
>> > says it will offer legal representation to panhandlers affected by
>> > the ordinance. ACLU of Virginia executive director Kent Willis
>> > says the city has a right to regulate panhandlers to make sure they
>> > aren't intimidating people, but it can't just ban the practice
>> > outright.
>> >
>> > http://www.wtvr.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=menu79_2
>>
>>
>> What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling is
>> free speech?
>
>I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court and
>exercise their free speech.

LOL....

--

Scott in Florida

#5 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,3:37:54 PM, wrote:
>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0eto8qtgigxt004@news.readfreenews.net...
>> > RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia
>> > is promising a legal challenge if Richmond City Council approves an
>> > ordinance tonight that would ban panhandling. The proposed ordinance
>> > would prohibit people from soliciting money in the Central Business
>> > District and near outdoor restaurants and ATMs. The ACLU sent a
>> > letter to council members over the weekend saying the proposed ban
>> > violates the Constitution's guarantee of free speech. The group
>> > says it will offer legal representation to panhandlers affected by
>> > the ordinance. ACLU of Virginia executive director Kent Willis
>> > says the city has a right to regulate panhandlers to make sure they
>> > aren't intimidating people, but it can't just ban the practice
>> > outright.
>> >
>> > http://www.wtvr.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=menu79_2
>>
>>
>> What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling is
>> free speech?
>
> I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court and
> exercise their free speech.

Good. You didn't use the stock answer I expected.

#6 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,4:41:33 PM, wrote:

> > > What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling is
> > > free speech?
> >
> > I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court
> > and exercise their free speech.
>
> Good. You didn't use the stock answer I expected.

And what would that be?

--
"I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always
oppressive." ~ Thomas Jefferson

#7 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,4:41:33 PM, wrote:
>
>> > > What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling is
>> > > free speech?
>> >
>> > I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court
>> > and exercise their free speech.
>>
>> Good. You didn't use the stock answer I expected.
>
> And what would that be?

Don't be silly. I'm not going to help you.

#8 (**permalink**) 11-13-2006, 10:09 PM

JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,4:46:58 PM, wrote:

> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0etoblb6xqvit003@news.readfreenews.net...
> > JoeSpareBedroom, 11/13/2006,4:41:33 PM, wrote:
> >
> >>> > What will you say if the Supreme Court agrees that panhandling
> is >>> > free speech?
> > > >
> >>> I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme
> Court >>> and exercise their free speech.
> > >
> > > Good. You didn't use the stock answer I expected.
> >
> > And what would that be?
>
> Don't be silly. I'm not going to help you.

How can you help me? I am not the of the cookie cutter mold as you
are. I actually have a mind that thinks for itself. You are getting
your opinions fed to you by somebody who is insane.

#9 (**permalink**) 11-14-2006, 11:17 PM

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:38:25 -0500, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court and
>>exercise their free speech.
>
> LOL....
>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>

And they wonder why I refer to the ACLU as the American Communist Liberation
Union?

Charles of Schaumburg.

#10 (**permalink**) 11-14-2006, 11:17 PM

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
> news:bhphl296vpphppr0at52spluicqqlc6kdv@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:38:25 -0500, "badgolferman"
>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I would say that panhandlers should stand outside the Supreme Court and
>>>exercise their free speech.
>>
>> LOL....
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>>
>
> And they wonder why I refer to the ACLU as the American Communist
> Liberation Union?
>
> Charles of Schaumburg.

Communism is an economic theory. Why are you using it in connection with a
free speech issue?