I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
if you can help before the car's properly broken in.

The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
should avoid any long highway trip.

What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.

Bow Wow, 5/10/2008,2:19:20 AM, wrote:

> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
> drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
> want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
> if you can help before the car's properly broken in.
>
> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
> should avoid any long highway trip.
>
> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
> off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.

I think that used to be true of older cars but today's cars are built
with such high tolerances that it is not true anymore.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:19:20 -0600, Bow Wow <Bow@Wow.com> wrote:

>I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
>trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
>drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
>want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
>if you can help before the car's properly broken in.
>
>The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
>happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
>should avoid any long highway trip.
>
>What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
>off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.

Well that is complete crap.

Take it on the trip!

Just vary the speed and don't use cruise.....

--

Scott in Florida

Bow Wow wrote:
> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
> drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
> want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
> if you can help before the car's properly broken in.
>
> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
> should avoid any long highway trip.
>
> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
> off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.

Are you getting a Pilot or a Highlander? Why are you asking the same
question in different newsgroups about different trucks?

Jeff

"Bow Wow" <Bow@Wow.com> wrote in message
news:2ifa249t14r74p5f703dk85306ae58c03h@4ax.com...
>I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
> drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
> want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
> if you can help before the car's properly broken in.
>
> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
> should avoid any long highway trip.
>
> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
> off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.

(Also posted in alt.autos.lexus)

I've taken 50 or 60 new cars and driven them for roughly 12,000 miles of
mostly highway driving with no problems. The nature of our business was
most of the people in our office also had to drive mostly highway miles.
Figure 30 people get 4 new cars a year for 120 new cars a year, x my 15
years experience for 18,000 cars with no ill effects of driving mostly
highway miles from the time they are put into service. Many of those cars
were bought by employees, relatives, and friends afterwards and they did not
experience any problems related to how the vehicles were broken in.

Enjoy your trip in your new ride!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:
> "Bow Wow" <Bow@Wow.com> wrote in message
> news:2ifa249t14r74p5f703dk85306ae58c03h@4ax.com...
>> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
>> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
>> drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
>> want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
>> if you can help before the car's properly broken in.
>>
>> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
>> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
>> should avoid any long highway trip.
>>
>> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
>> off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.
>
> (Also posted in alt.autos.lexus)
>
> I've taken 50 or 60 new cars and driven them for roughly 12,000 miles of
> mostly highway driving with no problems. The nature of our business was
> most of the people in our office also had to drive mostly highway miles.
> Figure 30 people get 4 new cars a year for 120 new cars a year, x my 15
> years experience for 18,000 cars with no ill effects of driving mostly
> highway miles from the time they are put into service.

15 x 120 = 1800, not 18,000

> Many of those cars
> were bought by employees, relatives, and friends afterwards and they did not
> experience any problems related to how the vehicles were broken in.
>
> Enjoy your trip in your new ride!

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PwhVj.248$za1.228@trndny07...
> Ray O wrote:
>> "Bow Wow" <Bow@Wow.com> wrote in message
>> news:2ifa249t14r74p5f703dk85306ae58c03h@4ax.com...
>>> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
>>> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
>>> drive and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't
>>> want to drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount
>>> if you can help before the car's properly broken in.
>>>
>>> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
>>> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
>>> should avoid any long highway trip.
>>>
>>> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
>>> off the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.
>>
>> (Also posted in alt.autos.lexus)
>>
>> I've taken 50 or 60 new cars and driven them for roughly 12,000 miles of
>> mostly highway driving with no problems. The nature of our business was
>> most of the people in our office also had to drive mostly highway miles.
>> Figure 30 people get 4 new cars a year for 120 new cars a year, x my 15
>> years experience for 18,000 cars with no ill effects of driving mostly
>> highway miles from the time they are put into service.
>
> 15 x 120 = 1800, not 18,000
>

Doh! My bad, good catch!

--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:19:20 -0600, Bow Wow wrote:

> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile drive
> and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't want to
> drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount if you can
> help before the car's properly broken in.
>
> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you should
> avoid any long highway trip.
>
> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put off
> the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.

I'm old-school. I drive a car 1500 miles and then do the first oil change.
Then I do the next one at 3000 miles, and every 3-3500 after that.

I also had 3 cars go over 250,000 miles without burning oil.

Five-hundred miles is approx 8 hours. I would prbably go pretty easy for
the first 1,000 miles, secondary roads and short stretches on the highway
around cities. This will do two things; allow the machine to run at
something other than wide open, and force variations in load and speed
like the manual says to do.

It seems I can tell when a car was broken in properly or not. On cars I
had had new, they don't tend to develop 'notches' at certain speeds. By
this I mean, on cars other than ones I bought new, I can notice that the
car seems to hit a stride ~45-50 MPH, and another ~70 MPH. What I assume
is that the person that bought the car new had two driving modes:
secondary roads (45 MPH) and highway (70 MPH). I have noticed this on a
few used cars I have owned.

On cars I bought new and broke in properly, there weren't any 'notches',
everything was fairly even across the range.

You will hit speeds and conditions on any car, no matter how it was broken
in due to engine and mechanical efficiencies. On most 4 cylinder Toyotas I
have owned, they seem to hit their stride 70~75 MPH, since I assume this
is the engine's most efficient mode. I have noticed this on 4 or 5 Toyotas
I have owned. Always got the best economy at about 72 MPH in 5th gear.

Of course, with newer cars and a V6, things are different now, but I would
still take it pretty easy for the first 1500 miles, and stop and have the
oil changed.

Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:19:20 -0600, Bow Wow wrote:
>
>> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
>> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile drive
>> and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't want to
>> drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount if you can
>> help before the car's properly broken in.
>>
>> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
>> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you should
>> avoid any long highway trip.
>>
>> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put off
>> the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.
>
> I'm old-school. I drive a car 1500 miles and then do the first oil change.
> Then I do the next one at 3000 miles, and every 3-3500 after that.
>
> I also had 3 cars go over 250,000 miles without burning oil.
>
> Five-hundred miles is approx 8 hours. I would prbably go pretty easy for
> the first 1,000 miles, secondary roads and short stretches on the highway
> around cities. This will do two things; allow the machine to run at
> something other than wide open, and force variations in load and speed
> like the manual says to do.
>
> It seems I can tell when a car was broken in properly or not. On cars I
> had had new, they don't tend to develop 'notches' at certain speeds. By
> this I mean, on cars other than ones I bought new, I can notice that the
> car seems to hit a stride ~45-50 MPH, and another ~70 MPH. What I assume
> is that the person that bought the car new had two driving modes:
> secondary roads (45 MPH) and highway (70 MPH). I have noticed this on a
> few used cars I have owned.
>
> On cars I bought new and broke in properly, there weren't any 'notches',
> everything was fairly even across the range.
>
> You will hit speeds and conditions on any car, no matter how it was broken
> in due to engine and mechanical efficiencies. On most 4 cylinder Toyotas I
> have owned, they seem to hit their stride 70~75 MPH, since I assume this
> is the engine's most efficient mode. I have noticed this on 4 or 5 Toyotas
> I have owned. Always got the best economy at about 72 MPH in 5th gear.

How do you know that the speeds that the cars were driven at had
anything to do with these "strides"? And why would driving a car a
particular speed cause this?

I think you don't know what you're talking about.

From the owner's manual for a 2008 Pilot:

"Help assure your vehicle’s future
reliability and performance by paying
extra attention to how you drive
during the first 600 miles (1,000 km).
During this period:
Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid
acceleration.
Do not change the oil until the
scheduled maintenance time.
Avoid hard braking for the first
200 miles (300 km).
Do not tow a trailer.
You should also follow these
recommendations with an
overhauled or exchanged engine, or
when the brakes are replaced."

Note what the manual says about the first oil change.



> Of course, with newer cars and a V6, things are different now, but I would
> still take it pretty easy for the first 1500 miles, and stop and have the
> oil changed.
>

Jeff wrote:
> Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:19:20 -0600, Bow Wow wrote:
>>
>>> I was planning on taking my soon to take possession Highlander V6 on a
>>> trip which will consist mostly of highway driving of about 3000mile
>>> drive
>>> and been told that that's not such a good idea because you don't want to
>>> drive a brand new car on the highway for any extended amount if you can
>>> help before the car's properly broken in.
>>>
>>> The seals, rings and the machine just needs to set in properly, which
>>> happens during the break in period and before that, I was told you
>>> should
>>> avoid any long highway trip.
>>>
>>> What do you guys think? If this was your car, would you do it or put
>>> off
>>> the trip until after the car's broken in properly? Thanks.
>>
>> I'm old-school. I drive a car 1500 miles and then do the first oil
>> change.
>> Then I do the next one at 3000 miles, and every 3-3500 after that.
>>
>> I also had 3 cars go over 250,000 miles without burning oil.
>> Five-hundred miles is approx 8 hours. I would prbably go pretty easy for
>> the first 1,000 miles, secondary roads and short stretches on the highway
>> around cities. This will do two things; allow the machine to run at
>> something other than wide open, and force variations in load and speed
>> like the manual says to do.
>>
>> It seems I can tell when a car was broken in properly or not. On cars I
>> had had new, they don't tend to develop 'notches' at certain speeds. By
>> this I mean, on cars other than ones I bought new, I can notice that the
>> car seems to hit a stride ~45-50 MPH, and another ~70 MPH. What I assume
>> is that the person that bought the car new had two driving modes:
>> secondary roads (45 MPH) and highway (70 MPH). I have noticed this on a
>> few used cars I have owned.
>>
>> On cars I bought new and broke in properly, there weren't any 'notches',
>> everything was fairly even across the range.
>> You will hit speeds and conditions on any car, no matter how it was
>> broken
>> in due to engine and mechanical efficiencies. On most 4 cylinder
>> Toyotas I
>> have owned, they seem to hit their stride 70~75 MPH, since I assume this
>> is the engine's most efficient mode. I have noticed this on 4 or 5
>> Toyotas
>> I have owned. Always got the best economy at about 72 MPH in 5th gear.
>
> How do you know that the speeds that the cars were driven at had
> anything to do with these "strides"? And why would driving a car a
> particular speed cause this?
>
> I think you don't know what you're talking about.
>
> From the owner's manual for a 2008 Pilot:
>
> "Help assure your vehicle’s future
> reliability and performance by paying
> extra attention to how you drive
> during the first 600 miles (1,000 km).
> During this period:
> Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid
> acceleration.
> Do not change the oil until the
> scheduled maintenance time.
> Avoid hard braking for the first
> 200 miles (300 km).
> Do not tow a trailer.
> You should also follow these
> recommendations with an
> overhauled or exchanged engine, or
> when the brakes are replaced."
>
> Note what the manual says about the first oil change.
>
>
>
>> Of course, with newer cars and a V6, things are different now, but I
>> would
>> still take it pretty easy for the first 1500 miles, and stop and have the
>> oil changed.



what??? read the manual??? no freakin' chance buddy! we're all going
to have a retardation contest here on usenet and take the words of
nameless idiots with our new multi-thousand dollar investments, not the
experts that researched, designed and manufactured the freakin' thing!

imagine these guys in aerospace: "yeah, but this guy said those cracks
didn't matter".