There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
because of rusty frames.

You can read all about it here:

<http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>

On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:31:18 +0000, Jeff wrote:

> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts because
> of rusty frames.
>
> You can read all about it here:
>
> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>


Yeah, it's happening.

There was an ad in the local paper: 1996 Toyota Tacoma 4WD pickup, 122,000
miles, passed Toyota rust recall with flying colors! $6,800

This guy's bumming because Toyota didn't buy his truck for $10,000...

Also, the trucks Toyota did buy back in my area had their catalytic
converters cut off in the middle of the night! There's Platinum in them
thar converters!!!

Notice Toyotas offer is based on Kelly Blue book, the price at which
vehicles are trading among dealers and wholesalers, not NADA the price at
which vehicles are trading and selling at retail.

Kelly list a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at $5,125 retail, while
NADA list the same truck at $7,150 a difference in the buy back price of
over $4,500.




"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WkiVj.166$i51.50@trndny09...
> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts because
> of rusty frames.
>
> You can read all about it here:
>
> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>

Toyota is make a smart move with the buy back and junking the trucks, the
REAL saving for Toyota is they will avoid paying the shark lawyers millions
in a class action suit

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
newsviVj.2494$GK4.201@trndny01...
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:31:18 +0000, Jeff wrote:
>
>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
>> because
>> of rusty frames.
>>
>> You can read all about it here:
>>
>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>
>
> Yeah, it's happening.
>
> There was an ad in the local paper: 1996 Toyota Tacoma 4WD pickup, 122,000
> miles, passed Toyota rust recall with flying colors! $6,800
>
> This guy's bumming because Toyota didn't buy his truck for $10,000...
>
> Also, the trucks Toyota did buy back in my area had their catalytic
> converters cut off in the middle of the night! There's Platinum in them
> thar converters!!!
>
>

Mike hunt wrote:
> Notice Toyotas offer is based on Kelly Blue book, the price at which
> vehicles are trading among dealers and wholesalers, not NADA the price at
> which vehicles are trading and selling at retail.

Really? What article are you reading?

The article I cited said, "On the buybacks, Toyota will pay 1.5 times
the suggested retail price for a vehicle in excellent condition as
calculated by Kelley Blue Book." Did you see the word "Retail" in there?

The value for a base 1999 Tacoma with 100,000 from Kelly Blue bock is
$5925. From NADA, I got a range from $5225 to $7150. $5925 fall towards
the middle of the range. And, one would get 150% of the $5925, which is
about $8900.

There is, of course, no requirement that a Tacoma owner sell the truck,
either.

When you get a clue, you won't need to let us know. We will be able to
tell because you actually will start to make sense.

Jeff

> Kelly list a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at $5,125 retail, while
> NADA list the same truck at $7,150 a difference in the buy back price of
> over $4,500.

Do you have
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:WkiVj.166$i51.50@trndny09...
>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts because
>> of rusty frames.
>>
>> You can read all about it here:
>>
>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>
>

What part of, "Kelly lists a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at
$5,125 retail, while NADA list the SAME truck at $7,150 a difference in the
BUY BACK price of over $4,500," did you not understand? LOL


"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
newsDlVj.116$6D1.24@trndny02...
> Mike hunt wrote:
>> Notice Toyotas offer is based on Kelly Blue book, the price at which
>> vehicles are trading among dealers and wholesalers, not NADA the price at
>> which vehicles are trading and selling at retail.
>
> Really? What article are you reading?
>
> The article I cited said, "On the buybacks, Toyota will pay 1.5 times the
> suggested retail price for a vehicle in excellent condition as calculated
> by Kelley Blue Book." Did you see the word "Retail" in there?
>
> The value for a base 1999 Tacoma with 100,000 from Kelly Blue bock is
> $5925. From NADA, I got a range from $5225 to $7150. $5925 fall towards
> the middle of the range. And, one would get 150% of the $5925, which is
> about $8900.
>
> There is, of course, no requirement that a Tacoma owner sell the truck,
> either.
>
> When you get a clue, you won't need to let us know. We will be able to
> tell because you actually will start to make sense.
>
> Jeff
>
>> Kelly list a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at $5,125 retail,
>> while NADA list the same truck at $7,150 a difference in the buy back
>> price of over $4,500.
>
> Do you have
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:WkiVj.166$i51.50@trndny09...
>>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
>>> because of rusty frames.
>>>
>>> You can read all about it here:
>>>
>>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>>

Mike hunt wrote:
> What part of, "Kelly lists a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at
> $5,125 retail, while NADA list the SAME truck at $7,150 a difference in the
> BUY BACK price of over $4,500," did you not understand? LOL

I understand what you wrote perfectly well. However, the fact is that
the NADA site lists a range of prices, with the Kelly Blue Book value
actually higher than the lowest NADA price.

Get a clue old man.

Jeff



> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> newsDlVj.116$6D1.24@trndny02...
>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>> Notice Toyotas offer is based on Kelly Blue book, the price at which
>>> vehicles are trading among dealers and wholesalers, not NADA the price at
>>> which vehicles are trading and selling at retail.
>> Really? What article are you reading?
>>
>> The article I cited said, "On the buybacks, Toyota will pay 1.5 times the
>> suggested retail price for a vehicle in excellent condition as calculated
>> by Kelley Blue Book." Did you see the word "Retail" in there?
>>
>> The value for a base 1999 Tacoma with 100,000 from Kelly Blue bock is
>> $5925. From NADA, I got a range from $5225 to $7150. $5925 fall towards
>> the middle of the range. And, one would get 150% of the $5925, which is
>> about $8900.
>>
>> There is, of course, no requirement that a Tacoma owner sell the truck,
>> either.
>>
>> When you get a clue, you won't need to let us know. We will be able to
>> tell because you actually will start to make sense.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> Kelly list a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at $5,125 retail,
>>> while NADA list the same truck at $7,150 a difference in the buy back
>>> price of over $4,500.
>> Do you have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:WkiVj.166$i51.50@trndny09...
>>>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
>>>> because of rusty frames.
>>>>
>>>> You can read all about it here:
>>>>
>>>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>

DUH! As usual, you choose to believe what you want to believe. I could not
care less what you choose to believe.

What I posted is factual, Toyota is offering to pay is 1½ times the KELLY
RETAIL value for a reason. What I pointed to was the difference in the
RETAIL value of the SAME vehicle between Kelly and NADA.

NADA reflects the prices at new dealerships rather than Kelly and that is
why Toyota is using Kelly to save thousands when they do a buy back from the
dummies like you that do not understand the difference.

You can bet your ass the shark lawyers would make them use NADA to settle a
class action. Now go buy a clue

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f4mVj.97$ll1.92@trndny06...
> Mike hunt wrote:
>> What part of, "Kelly lists a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at
>> $5,125 retail, while NADA list the SAME truck at $7,150 a difference in
>> the BUY BACK price of over $4,500," did you not understand? LOL
>
> I understand what you wrote perfectly well. However, the fact is that the
> NADA site lists a range of prices, with the Kelly Blue Book value actually
> higher than the lowest NADA price.
>
> Get a clue old man.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsDlVj.116$6D1.24@trndny02...
>>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>>> Notice Toyotas offer is based on Kelly Blue book, the price at which
>>>> vehicles are trading among dealers and wholesalers, not NADA the price
>>>> at which vehicles are trading and selling at retail.
>>> Really? What article are you reading?
>>>
>>> The article I cited said, "On the buybacks, Toyota will pay 1.5 times
>>> the suggested retail price for a vehicle in excellent condition as
>>> calculated by Kelley Blue Book." Did you see the word "Retail" in there?
>>>
>>> The value for a base 1999 Tacoma with 100,000 from Kelly Blue bock is
>>> $5925. From NADA, I got a range from $5225 to $7150. $5925 fall towards
>>> the middle of the range. And, one would get 150% of the $5925, which is
>>> about $8900.
>>>
>>> There is, of course, no requirement that a Tacoma owner sell the truck,
>>> either.
>>>
>>> When you get a clue, you won't need to let us know. We will be able to
>>> tell because you actually will start to make sense.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> Kelly list a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at $5,125 retail,
>>>> while NADA list the same truck at $7,150 a difference in the buy back
>>>> price of over $4,500.
>>> Do you have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:WkiVj.166$i51.50@trndny09...
>>>>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
>>>>> because of rusty frames.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read all about it here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>>

Mike hunt wrote:
> DUH! As usual, you choose to believe what you want to believe. I could not
> care less what you choose to believe.

You are a piece of work.

> What I posted is factual, Toyota is offering to pay is 1½ times the KELLY
> RETAIL value for a reason. What I pointed to was the difference in the
> RETAIL value of the SAME vehicle between Kelly and NADA.

Yet NADA lists a range of prices. And the Kelly retail price is above
the low end of the range.

> NADA reflects the prices at new dealerships rather than Kelly

I didn't know that Kelly sold cars.

> and that is
> why Toyota is using Kelly to save thousands when they do a buy back from the
> dummies like you that do not understand the difference.

Name calling! Ready for kindergarten, I see.

I totally understand the difference.

I also understand that Toyota is making an offer. No one is required to
accept it.

> You can bet your ass the shark lawyers would make them use NADA to settle a
> class action. Now go buy a clue

Wow! Great comeback.

Jeff

> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f4mVj.97$ll1.92@trndny06...
>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>> What part of, "Kelly lists a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at
>>> $5,125 retail, while NADA list the SAME truck at $7,150 a difference in
>>> the BUY BACK price of over $4,500," did you not understand? LOL
>> I understand what you wrote perfectly well. However, the fact is that the
>> NADA site lists a range of prices, with the Kelly Blue Book value actually
>> higher than the lowest NADA price.
>>
>> Get a clue old man.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> newsDlVj.116$6D1.24@trndny02...
>>>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>>>> Notice Toyotas offer is based on Kelly Blue book, the price at which
>>>>> vehicles are trading among dealers and wholesalers, not NADA the price
>>>>> at which vehicles are trading and selling at retail.
>>>> Really? What article are you reading?
>>>>
>>>> The article I cited said, "On the buybacks, Toyota will pay 1.5 times
>>>> the suggested retail price for a vehicle in excellent condition as
>>>> calculated by Kelley Blue Book." Did you see the word "Retail" in there?
>>>>
>>>> The value for a base 1999 Tacoma with 100,000 from Kelly Blue bock is
>>>> $5925. From NADA, I got a range from $5225 to $7150. $5925 fall towards
>>>> the middle of the range. And, one would get 150% of the $5925, which is
>>>> about $8900.
>>>>
>>>> There is, of course, no requirement that a Tacoma owner sell the truck,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> When you get a clue, you won't need to let us know. We will be able to
>>>> tell because you actually will start to make sense.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>> Kelly list a 1999 base model, with average mileage, at $5,125 retail,
>>>>> while NADA list the same truck at $7,150 a difference in the buy back
>>>>> price of over $4,500.
>>>> Do you have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:WkiVj.166$i51.50@trndny09...
>>>>>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
>>>>>> because of rusty frames.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can read all about it here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>
>

On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:58:23 -0400, Mike hunt wrote:

> Toyota is make a smart move with the buy back and junking the trucks, the
> REAL saving for Toyota is they will avoid paying the shark lawyers
> millions in a class action suit

This is true, and probably why they started the program.



>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> newsviVj.2494$GK4.201@trndny01...
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:31:18 +0000, Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> There was some discussion about the supposed Toyota Tacoma buyouts
>>> because
>>> of rusty frames.
>>>
>>> You can read all about it here:
>>>
>>> <http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/toyota-offers-to-buy-back-rusty-tacomas/#more-456>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, it's happening.
>>
>> There was an ad in the local paper: 1996 Toyota Tacoma 4WD pickup,
>> 122,000 miles, passed Toyota rust recall with flying colors! $6,800
>>
>> This guy's bumming because Toyota didn't buy his truck for $10,000...
>>
>> Also, the trucks Toyota did buy back in my area had their catalytic
>> converters cut off in the middle of the night! There's Platinum in them
>> thar converters!!!
>>
>>
>>