OT: Spineless president kisses king's ass

#1 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 03:41 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...bia/index.html

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D90MO8C80.html

#2 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

JoeSpareBedroom, 5/16/2008,10:29:45 PM, wrote:

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...bia/index.html
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D90MO8C80.html

If he could get oil, gas, coal production going in the US he wouldn't
have to go begging for more oil from those bastards. Thank the
Democrats and environmentalists for the high price of gas in the US.
We have untold amount of resources that would fuel our economy and
standard of living for hundreds of years.

By the way, you are still a jerk for your behavior in the Philip thread.

#3 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom, 5/16/2008,10:29:45 PM, wrote:
>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...bia/index.html
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D90MO8C80.html
>
> If he could get oil, gas, coal production going in the US he wouldn't
> have to go begging for more oil from those bastards. Thank the
> Democrats and environmentalists for the high price of gas in the US.
> We have untold amount of resources that would fuel our economy and
> standard of living for hundreds of years.

Nonsense.

>
> By the way, you are still a jerk for your behavior in the Philip thread.

If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.

#4 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

badgolferman wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom, 5/16/2008,10:29:45 PM, wrote:
>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...bia/index.html
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D90MO8C80.html
>
> If he could get oil, gas, coal production going in the US he wouldn't
> have to go begging for more oil from those bastards. Thank the
> Democrats and environmentalists for the high price of gas in the US.

Wrong. The high price of crude oil is because India and China are using
more and more of the stuff.

The price of gasoline is determined in large part by the price of crude oil.

The democrats and environmentalists have nothing do with this.

Further, both Democrats and Republicans get lots of money from oil
companies.

> We have untold amount of resources that would fuel our economy and
> standard of living for hundreds of years.

Coal resources, maybe. But not oil resources.

Further, there are major problems with Global Heating.

> By the way, you are still a jerk for your behavior in the Philip thread.

Well, not just that thread.

Jeff

#5 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

JoeSpareBedroom, 5/16/2008,10:45:53 PM, wrote:

> > By the way, you are still a jerk for your behavior in the Philip
> > thread.
>
> If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.

You're going to get my opinion whether you like it or not. You
actually beg for it by starting threads like this.

--
"Things are more like they are now than they have ever been." ~
President Gerald Ford

#6 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

Jeff, 5/16/2008,10:56:24 PM, wrote:

> > If he could get oil, gas, coal production going in the US he
> > wouldn't have to go begging for more oil from those bastards.
> > Thank the Democrats and environmentalists for the high price of gas
> > in the US.
>
> Wrong. The high price of crude oil is because India and China are
> using more and more of the stuff.
>
> The price of gasoline is determined in large part by the price of
> crude oil.

This is true because of the law of supply and demand. The supply is in
our own back yard and we aren't allowed to touch it. If we could drill
for oil on our own territory and refine it locally the demand by the US
would be less on the world market. That would have the effect of
keeping gas prices lower in the US.

> The democrats and environmentalists have nothing do with this.

Sure they do, they are the ones blocking this option. Other than
wanting the US standard of living to drop or create more dependence
upon the government I can't think of any reason why.

> Further, both Democrats and Republicans get lots of money from oil
> companies.

Start ferreting them out, I'm sure the constituents would like to know.

> > We have untold amount of resources that would fuel our economy and
> > standard of living for hundreds of years.
>
> Coal resources, maybe. But not oil resources.

Coal can be made into diesel fuel. We are past the point of market
feasibility for this option.

> Further, there are major problems with Global Heating.

That remains debatable as to whether man has any significant impact
upon that phenomena. There are tons of data indicating the Earth is
significantly cooler now than in previous eons. In fact it appears we
are in cycle where the Earth will be getting much cooler over the next
few hundred years.

--
"You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on
how to cope with heatwaves." ~ Stanislaw J. Lee

#7 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:29:45 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...bia/index.html
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D90MO8C80.html

Like I said before, Joe, it's time to get our own oil. But the Democrats
and the tree huggers stand in the way and file litigation suits that tie
up assest for years or decades.

#8 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 04:45 AM

On Sat, 17 May 2008 03:25:08 +0000, badgolferman wrote:

>> Further, there are major problems with Global Heating.
>
> That remains debatable as to whether man has any significant impact upon
> that phenomena. There are tons of data indicating the Earth is
> significantly cooler now than in previous eons. In fact it appears we are
> in cycle where the Earth will be getting much cooler over the next few
> hundred years.

Hmmmm....where have I heard that before...

#9 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 05:36 AM

On May 16, 10:39*pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom, 5/16/2008,10:29:45 PM, wrote:
> >http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...bia/index.html
>
> >http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D90MO8C80.html
>
> If he could get oil, gas, coal production going in the US he wouldn't
> have to go begging for more oil from those bastards. *Thank the
> Democrats and environmentalists for the high price of gas in the US.
> We have untold amount of resources that would fuel our economy and
> standard of living for hundreds of years.
>
> By the way, you are still a jerk for your behavior in the Philip thread.

Blah blah, drill in Anwar, blah blah, drill in national parks, blah
blah drill off the atlantic coast, blah blah the gulf of mexico.

Kill the internal combustion engine. Shit, do you know how much
research and development 1 TRILLION dollars could buy?

#10 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 07:48 AM

I don't think you realize just how much power OPEC and the Saudis have. You
think he can walk in there, stomp his foot, and demand oil production be
raised? Don't fool yourself. No one can do that unless they do it with a
military.

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