Bruce here is my problem (!)

I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.

Being the good liberal (!) that I am....it is wasteful to
leave the damned thing on all the time.

Now I have a strip in there that I just switch on whenever I want some
hot water at the sink.

What I would 'like' to have is a push button that would turn it on
for...say an hour and atomically turn it off.

One of my thoughts was to put timer on the outlet with a bunch of
'off' cycles, but that would be hit or miss for turning the thing off
in an hour.

Any ideas?

--

Scott in Florida

On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:12 -0400, Scott in Florida wrote:

> Bruce here is my problem (!)
>
> I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.

If it's an instant HW heater (and, um, *WHY* are you heating HOT
WATER?!?!) it should only turn on when hot water is demanded. That's the
way it's supposed to work...

On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:25:56 GMT, hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:12 -0400, Scott in Florida wrote:
>
>> Bruce here is my problem (!)
>>
>> I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.
>
>If it's an instant HW heater (and, um, *WHY* are you heating HOT
>WATER?!?!) it should only turn on when hot water is demanded. That's the
>way it's supposed to work...

Sorry, should have spained it a bit better....

It is filtered hot drinking water.

The water supply to the 'instant' hot water heater runs thru the same
filter that goes to the refrigerator for ice and water.



--

Scott in Florida

Did you install the filter to filter out alligators? J

"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message
news:q3ku245gvlupq55q37p824gqbr4bp3go2n@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:25:56 GMT, hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:12 -0400, Scott in Florida wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce here is my problem (!)
>>>
>>> I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.
>>
>>If it's an instant HW heater (and, um, *WHY* are you heating HOT
>>WATER?!?!) it should only turn on when hot water is demanded. That's the
>>way it's supposed to work...
>
> Sorry, should have spained it a bit better....
>
> It is filtered hot drinking water.
>
> The water supply to the 'instant' hot water heater runs thru the same
> filter that goes to the refrigerator for ice and water.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida

On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:12 -0400, Scott in Florida
<MoveOn@outa.here> wrote:

>Bruce here is my problem (!)
>
>I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.
>
>Being the good liberal (!) that I am....it is wasteful to
>leave the damned thing on all the time.
>
>Now I have a strip in there that I just switch on whenever I want some
>hot water at the sink.
>
>What I would 'like' to have is a push button that would turn it on
>for...say an hour and atomically turn it off.
>
>One of my thoughts was to put timer on the outlet with a bunch of
>'off' cycles, but that would be hit or miss for turning the thing off
>in an hour.
>
>Any ideas?

Intermatic 1-hour wind-up timer, the same kind you find on the
bathroom lights or the spa jets at any apartment or condo. They are
rated for 20 Amps resistive load, and they replace a wall switch.

(Also available in 15-minute, 30-Minute, 2 Hour, 6 Hour. For your
purposes getting the one with the 'Hold' feature is OK, for when you
throw a party and want it to stay on all evening. If it's a public
restroom you do NOT want the Hold feature so the lights can't get left
on. They come both ways, read the box.)

Wind the knob and flush through some fresh water through the
Insta-Hot when you get up, and by the time you get out of the shower
and dressed you'll have hot water all ready for tea.

The timers are readily available at any Borg (Home Depot, Lowe's,
True Value, Ace, supply house) but you'll have to put it in a metallic
junction box under the sink.

Hopefully you already have the needed "Split-wired" receptacle under
the sink on the disposal circuit - one side of the duplex receptacle
under the sink is on constantly, and the other side is switched for
the garbage disposal. If not, get it rigged this way along with an
outlet on the dishwasher circuit - and then you'll always have two
"extra" coffee-urn or warming tray circuits with outlets the next time
you throw a big party.

(Just don't try running the dishwasher or disposal till after the
party, or unplug those coffeepots for a few minutes.)

Get two "cord grip" clamps and a 6' 12-gauge grounded extension
cord. You cut the cord in the middle, put the ends through the cord
grip into the box and cinch them down. Black wires go to "Line" and
"Load" of the timer, white wires get spliced with a yellow wire nut.
The Green wires get T-spliced (strip one wire longer than the other)
with a bare barrel crimp "ground splice" and the 1" longer end of one
ground lead goes into a crimp spade lug. The spade lug is bonded to
the metallic box with a 10-32 ground screw.

--<< Bruce >>--

No....the giant snakes that are moving north....LOL



On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:39:45 -0400, "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22@lycos.com>
wrote:

>Did you install the filter to filter out alligators? J
>
>"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message
>news:q3ku245gvlupq55q37p824gqbr4bp3go2n@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:25:56 GMT, hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:12 -0400, Scott in Florida wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce here is my problem (!)
>>>>
>>>> I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.
>>>
>>>If it's an instant HW heater (and, um, *WHY* are you heating HOT
>>>WATER?!?!) it should only turn on when hot water is demanded. That's the
>>>way it's supposed to work...
>>
>> Sorry, should have spained it a bit better....
>>
>> It is filtered hot drinking water.
>>
>> The water supply to the 'instant' hot water heater runs thru the same
>> filter that goes to the refrigerator for ice and water.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>
--

Scott in Florida

On Sat, 17 May 2008 17:03:57 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
<blnospambergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:12 -0400, Scott in Florida
><MoveOn@outa.here> wrote:
>
>>Bruce here is my problem (!)
>>
>>I put in an instant hot water heater in my sink.
>>
>>Being the good liberal (!) that I am....it is wasteful to
>>leave the damned thing on all the time.
>>
>>Now I have a strip in there that I just switch on whenever I want some
>>hot water at the sink.
>>
>>What I would 'like' to have is a push button that would turn it on
>>for...say an hour and atomically turn it off.
>>
>>One of my thoughts was to put timer on the outlet with a bunch of
>>'off' cycles, but that would be hit or miss for turning the thing off
>>in an hour.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
> Intermatic 1-hour wind-up timer, the same kind you find on the
>bathroom lights or the spa jets at any apartment or condo. They are
>rated for 20 Amps resistive load, and they replace a wall switch.
>
> (Also available in 15-minute, 30-Minute, 2 Hour, 6 Hour. For your
>purposes getting the one with the 'Hold' feature is OK, for when you
>throw a party and want it to stay on all evening. If it's a public
>restroom you do NOT want the Hold feature so the lights can't get left
>on. They come both ways, read the box.)
>
> Wind the knob and flush through some fresh water through the
>Insta-Hot when you get up, and by the time you get out of the shower
>and dressed you'll have hot water all ready for tea.
>
> The timers are readily available at any Borg (Home Depot, Lowe's,
>True Value, Ace, supply house) but you'll have to put it in a metallic
>junction box under the sink.
>
> Hopefully you already have the needed "Split-wired" receptacle under
>the sink on the disposal circuit - one side of the duplex receptacle
>under the sink is on constantly, and the other side is switched for
>the garbage disposal. If not, get it rigged this way along with an
>outlet on the dishwasher circuit - and then you'll always have two
>"extra" coffee-urn or warming tray circuits with outlets the next time
>you throw a big party.
>
> (Just don't try running the dishwasher or disposal till after the
>party, or unplug those coffeepots for a few minutes.)
>
> Get two "cord grip" clamps and a 6' 12-gauge grounded extension
>cord. You cut the cord in the middle, put the ends through the cord
>grip into the box and cinch them down. Black wires go to "Line" and
>"Load" of the timer, white wires get spliced with a yellow wire nut.
>The Green wires get T-spliced (strip one wire longer than the other)
>with a bare barrel crimp "ground splice" and the 1" longer end of one
>ground lead goes into a crimp spade lug. The spade lug is bonded to
>the metallic box with a 10-32 ground screw.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--

THANK YOU, Bruce!

Sounds like a great plan.

Yes, I already have the split receptacle under the sink.

--

Scott in Florida