North Korea dismantled a nuke plant on Friday.

I don't know if the 6-Party Talks is the reason, but it is easy to think the
Bush strategy played a role in Kim Jung Il's decision. It is interesting to
note that North Korea kept this our of their own news reports AND made
statements of America's hostility toward the shut-off country.

Bush said what he would do and did what he said, and now North Korea is
taking apart a huge part of the program that makes it dangerous to her
neighbors. This is the hallmark of a good President.

I'd like to say, for the record, that I did not post the same thing three
times.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:g4941i$jrh$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> I'd like to say, for the record, that I did not post the same thing three
> times.

Yeah, you did. ;-) Or at least your server did.

Cathy

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> North Korea dismantled a nuke plant on Friday.
>
> I don't know if the 6-Party Talks is the reason, but it is easy to think the
> Bush strategy played a role in Kim Jung Il's decision.

Nonsense. If anything, GW Bush's practices delayed the settlement by
several years and risked a nuclear-armed North Korea.

China must be credited for resolving this problem because they have
more influence over North Korea than anybody else does -- they're both
ruthless Communist dictatorships, China provides major aid, China is
North Korea's biggest trading partner, by far, and only China
encouraged North Korea to fight the war over a half-century ago.

The administration originally did agree to 2-party talks -- a promise
made by then Secretary of State Colin Powell himself, and when the
neocons broke that promise, North Korea was infuriated. And it didn't
help that GW Bush's Axis of Evil® speech mentioned North Korea and he
called Kim Il Jong a midget.

Before GW Bush became President, negotiations with North Korea were
resolving the crisis, but he changed their direction completely,
either because he didn't like them, didn't like Clinton, didn't like
his own father, was brainwashed by Cheney and the neocons, or simply
decided he needed to swagger like John Wayne. That accomplished
nothing, and calmer heads eventually got him to go along with the
original Clinton plans -- give North Korea money in exchange for their
dismantling of its nuclear program, and that is what is being
implemented and is resolving the problem.

Frankly, I expected better from you, Jeff, than a rehash of the
Republican National Committee's talking points.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:40:26 -0700 (PDT), "larry moe 'n curly"
<larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote:

>
>
>Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
>> North Korea dismantled a nuke plant on Friday.
>>
>> I don't know if the 6-Party Talks is the reason, but it is easy to think the
>> Bush strategy played a role in Kim Jung Il's decision.

Tell us about Billy Bob Blow Job Klintoon's Korean fiasco, again...


You libs never ever want to admit it, but George W. Bush did a great
job.


>
>Nonsense. If anything, GW Bush's practices delayed the settlement by
>several years and risked a nuclear-armed North Korea.
>

--

Scott in Florida

edspyhill01@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Jun 30, 9:40�am, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com>
> wrote:

> > Jeff Strickland wrote:

> > > North Korea dismantled a nuke plant on Friday.
> >
> > > I don't know if the 6-Party Talks is the reason, but it is easy to think the
> > > Bush strategy played a role in Kim Jung Il's decision.
> >
> > Nonsense. If anything, GW Bush's practices delayed the settlement by
> > several years and risked a nuclear-armed North Korea.
> >
> > China must be credited for resolving this problem because they have
> > more influence over North Korea than anybody else does -- they're both
> > ruthless Communist dictatorships, China provides major aid, China is
> > North Korea's biggest trading partner, by far, and only China
> > encouraged North Korea to fight the war over a half-century ago.
> >
> > The administration originally did agree to 2-party talks -- a promise
> > made by then Secretary of State Colin Powell himself, and when the
> > neocons broke that promise, North Korea was infuriated. �And it didn't
> > help that GW Bush's Axis of Evil� speech mentioned North Korea and he
> > called Kim Il Jong a midget.
> >
> > Before GW Bush became President, negotiations with North Korea were
> > resolving the crisis, but he changed their direction completely,
> > either because he didn't like them, didn't like Clinton, didn't like
> > his own father, was brainwashed by Cheney and the neocons, or simply
> > decided he needed to swagger like John Wayne. �That accomplished
> > nothing, and calmer heads eventually got him to go along with the
> > original Clinton plans -- give North Korea money in exchange for their
> > dismantling of its nuclear program, and that is what is being
> > implemented and is resolving the problem.
> >
> > Frankly, I expected better from you, Jeff, than a rehash of the
> > Republican National Committee's talking points.
>
> And why isn't this the policy of appeasement???? I guess dubya was
> talking about himself in the speech given in Israel not too long ago.

Dubya is OK with appeasement, so long as it's not with Nazis
(exception made for his grandfather and Nazi sympathizer, Prescott
Bush).

Clinton knew that North Korea was on the decline and policy should be
an end game strategy. OTOH GW Bush thought Kim Il Jong was more
powerful than he really was.

Scott in Florida wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:40:26 -0700 (PDT), "larry moe 'n curly"
> <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> >> North Korea dismantled a nuke plant on Friday.
> >>
> >> I don't know if the 6-Party Talks is the reason, but it is easy to think the
> >> Bush strategy played a role in Kim Jung Il's decision.
>
> Tell us about Billy Bob Blow Job Klintoon's Korean fiasco, again...
>
The fiasco was that Clinton wasn't allowed to run for a third term so
he could wrap up the North Korea mess faster than GW Bush did. And
Clinton wouldn't have allowed the 9/11 attacks, as dumb slacker GW
Bush did.

> You libs never ever want to admit it, but George W. Bush did a great job.

By finally copying Clinton. But GW Bush wasted five years getting it
wrong. At the very least, he should have pushed for a settlement in
the six months after 9/11, when US power and respect was at its
height.