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Old 10-12-2008, 03:17 PM
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Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):

Independent: 55%
Democrat: 33%
Republican: 11%

Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
Brooks):

lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
doctors: 2:1
investment bankers: 2:1
high tech: 5:1

California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).
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Old 10-12-2008, 03:17 PM
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"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>
> Independent: 55%
> Democrat: 33%
> Republican: 11%
>
> Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
> Brooks):
>
> lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
> doctors: 2:1
> investment bankers: 2:1
> high tech: 5:1
>
> California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
> the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).



And the really really smart people would be abandoning both parties and
going independent.


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Old 10-12-2008, 04:48 PM
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In article
<ba17005f-6eed-4190-bb7e-d6a50b998149@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>
> Independent: 55%
> Democrat: 33%
> Republican: 11%
>
> Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
> Brooks):
>
> lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
> doctors: 2:1
> investment bankers: 2:1
> high tech: 5:1
>
> California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
> the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).


It's been a long time. Now, it's time for the dimocrats to take
control. The people who have not felt the pain are about to. Higher
taxes, higher unemployment, a longer and deeper recession. We'll be all
talking about this during the next upcoming presidential election in
2012. The question will be asked, what did president obama do for us
and why has the economy worsened over the past 4 years and not improved
as president obama said it would. I see already the dim congress is
planning for an obama win. They plan to begin the spending spree even
before the next year.

"WASHINGTON (AP) - After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic
leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in
hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless
benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials
said Saturday.
The bill's total cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said."
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:48 PM
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"dbu," <nospam@nobama.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <ba17005f-6eed-4190-bb7e-d6a50b998149@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
>> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
>> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>>
>> Independent: 55%
>> Democrat: 33%
>> Republican: 11%
>>
>> Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
>> Brooks):
>>
>> lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
>> doctors: 2:1
>> investment bankers: 2:1
>> high tech: 5:1
>>
>> California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
>> the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).

>
> It's been a long time. Now, it's time for the dimocrats to take
> control. The people who have not felt the pain are about to. Higher
> taxes, higher unemployment, a longer and deeper recession. We'll be all
> talking about this during the next upcoming presidential election in
> 2012. The question will be asked, what did president obama do for us
> and why has the economy worsened over the past 4 years and not improved
> as president obama said it would. I see already the dim congress is
> planning for an obama win. They plan to begin the spending spree even
> before the next year.
>
> "WASHINGTON (AP) - After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic
> leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in
> hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless
> benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials
> said Saturday.
> The bill's total cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said."



So? You don't care about money being pissed away.


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larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>
> Independent: 55%
> Democrat: 33%
> Republican: 11%


You're seeing that a lot in the south now too. After LBJ's civil rights
battles, the south turned from solidly Democrat to solidly Republican as
white lower-class and middle-class voters blamed the northern and
western Democrats for the end of segregation. But now you're seeing new
influxes of more educated Americans moving into states like North
Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and even Northern Florida. Slowly those
states are turning from red to blue as the older white racists die off
and the more educated white residents become a larger part of the
population. States with a large lower-class uneducated white population
like Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee are probably hopeless for the
Democrats.
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:48 PM
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"dbu," <nospam@nobama.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-5D0F4A.09191012102008@news.motzarella.org...
> In article
> <ba17005f-6eed-4190-bb7e-d6a50b998149@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
>> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
>> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>>
>> Independent: 55%
>> Democrat: 33%
>> Republican: 11%
>>
>> Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
>> Brooks):
>>
>> lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
>> doctors: 2:1
>> investment bankers: 2:1
>> high tech: 5:1
>>
>> California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
>> the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).

>
> It's been a long time. Now, it's time for the dimocrats to take
> control. The people who have not felt the pain are about to. Higher
> taxes, higher unemployment, a longer and deeper recession. We'll be all
> talking about this during the next upcoming presidential election in
> 2012. The question will be asked, what did president obama do for us
> and why has the economy worsened over the past 4 years and not improved
> as president obama said it would. I see already the dim congress is
> planning for an obama win. They plan to begin the spending spree even
> before the next year.
>
> "WASHINGTON (AP) - After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic
> leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in
> hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless
> benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials
> said Saturday.
> The bill's total cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said."
> --
>
>
>
>


Sorry I won't be here for the 2012 election. If Obama is elected, I will
die sometime after Christmas 2008. My purpose in this life is done and I
have failed at it.

Charles the Curmudgeon


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Old 10-12-2008, 06:24 PM
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In article <_lnIk.598$sI6.69@newsfe09.iad>,
"Reasoned Insanity" <nowhere@cox.net> wrote:

> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:ba17005f-6eed-4190-bb7e-d6a50b998149@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> > Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
> > Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
> > affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
> >
> > Independent: 55%
> > Democrat: 33%
> > Republican: 11%
> >
> > Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
> > Brooks):
> >
> > lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
> > doctors: 2:1
> > investment bankers: 2:1
> > high tech: 5:1
> >
> > California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
> > the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).

>
>
> And the really really smart people would be abandoning both parties and
> going independent.


If they had a chance at winning I might have done just that, depending
on who's running. They don't. So I vote for the party I like the most
between the two contenders.
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"Reasoned Insanity" ...
>
> "larry moe 'n curly"
>> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
>> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
>> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>>
>> Independent: 55%
>> Democrat: 33%
>> Republican: 11%
>>
>> Nationally, party donations break down as follows by profession (David
>> Brooks):
>>
>> lawyers: 4:1 (Democrats: Republicans)
>> doctors: 2:1
>> investment bankers: 2:1
>> high tech: 5:1
>>
>> California high-tech people are about 25% Democrats, 25% Republicans,
>> the rest independents or libertarians (EE Times).

>
>
> And the really really smart people would be abandoning both parties and
> going independent.
>


*high-five*

Natalie


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Old 10-13-2008, 04:51 PM
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rigger wrote:
> On Oct 12, 7:57 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>>
>>> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
>>> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
>>> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
>>> Independent: 55%
>>> Democrat: 33%
>>> Republican: 11%

>> You're seeing that a lot in the south now too. After LBJ's civil rights
>> battles, the south turned from solidly Democrat to solidly Republican as
>> white lower-class and middle-class voters blamed the northern and
>> western Democrats for the end of segregation. But now you're seeing new
>> influxes of more educated Americans moving into states like North
>> Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and even Northern Florida. Slowly those
>> states are turning from red to blue as the older white racists die off
>> and the more educated white residents become a larger part of the
>> population. States with a large lower-class uneducated white population
>> like Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee are probably hopeless for the
>> Democrats.

>
> LBJ's civil rights
> battles,??????????????????


The Voting Rights Act Of 1965. This was when LBJ said "We have lost the
South for a generation." 'Turns out he should have said two generations
or more.' Parts of the south seem to be coming back to their senses, it
looks like North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia will go Democratic this
year, and Georgia is changing slowly as well, but as I said, the states
with a large lower-class uneducated white population like Alabama,
Mississippi, and Tennessee are probably hopeless for the Democrats, for
many generations to come.

But who knows. There's talk that after this election, the Republicans
will regroup and kick out the religious-right neo-cons, tell Limbaugh,
Hannity and Coulter to go promote the Democratic party if they really
want to help the Republicans, and the Republicans will steer the party
back to its conservative roots. OTOH, McCain could still pull this thing
out. They are giving up on the Bill Ayer's attack ads which didn't work,
and now are going back to the "Obama will raise your taxes" lie. If
McCain can find a lie that works, he could still win.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:33 PM
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In article <kUJIk.3474$c45.1204@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> rigger wrote:
> > On Oct 12, 7:57 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Arizona was once solidly Republican, but now Republicans outnumber
> >>> Democrats by only a few thousand, and newcomers to the state are
> >>> affiliated as follows (www.azcentral.com):
> >>> Independent: 55%
> >>> Democrat: 33%
> >>> Republican: 11%
> >> You're seeing that a lot in the south now too. After LBJ's civil rights
> >> battles, the south turned from solidly Democrat to solidly Republican as
> >> white lower-class and middle-class voters blamed the northern and
> >> western Democrats for the end of segregation. But now you're seeing new
> >> influxes of more educated Americans moving into states like North
> >> Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and even Northern Florida. Slowly those
> >> states are turning from red to blue as the older white racists die off
> >> and the more educated white residents become a larger part of the
> >> population. States with a large lower-class uneducated white population
> >> like Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee are probably hopeless for the
> >> Democrats.

> >
> > LBJ's civil rights
> > battles,??????????????????

>
> The Voting Rights Act Of 1965. This was when LBJ said "We have lost the
> South for a generation." 'Turns out he should have said two generations
> or more.' Parts of the south seem to be coming back to their senses, it
> looks like North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia will go Democratic this
> year, and Georgia is changing slowly as well, but as I said, the states
> with a large lower-class uneducated white population like Alabama,
> Mississippi, and Tennessee are probably hopeless for the Democrats, for
> many generations to come.
>
> But who knows. There's talk that after this election, the Republicans
> will regroup and kick out the religious-right neo-cons, tell Limbaugh,
> Hannity and Coulter to go promote the Democratic party if they really
> want to help the Republicans, and the Republicans will steer the party
> back to its conservative roots. OTOH, McCain could still pull this thing
> out. They are giving up on the Bill Ayer's attack ads which didn't work,
> and now are going back to the "Obama will raise your taxes" lie. If
> McCain can find a lie that works, he could still win.


They're not giving up on the Ayers story. They have a new ad out.
Ayers connection with barry is a story that needs to be told. I know
you don't care, but I and a great many others do.

As for the states you are mentioning, getting a little ahead of your
self are you?
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