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Old 12-04-2008, 07:30 PM
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edspyhill01@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Dec 4, 2:00*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
>wrote:
>> "Oscar Finkleheimer" <Limburgerche...@isgreat.stink> wrote in
>>message
>>
>> news:Limburgercheese-4BD8D8.12540504122008@feeder.motzarella.org...
>>
>> >http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html

>>
>> > CHICAGO ‹ The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to

>>take up > a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's
>>U.S. citizenship, a > continuation of a New Jersey case embraced
>>by some opponents of Obama's > election.
>>
>> > The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's
>> > supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest

>>court.
>>
>> My prediction: The court will hear the case and decide it's a
>>non-issue. Certain people will then say the court was wrong, that
>>it was rigged, or who the hell knows what. It'll never end.

>
>Oh yeah, Dubya's Supreme court is fixed, but not just how dinkleheimer
>hopes. Even Bush's Supreme court will laugh milk out their noses when
>this comes in front of them.


Since Google Groups strips [square brackets] let me put the {squiggly
brackets} back in for you.

Why do you call it "Bush's Supreme Court"? How many of the justices
were appointed by him, two?
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:30 PM
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On 2008-12-04 11:08:02 -0800, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com"
<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> said:
>> You are correct. *This will dog O for years.
>>
>> Me? *I'd do everything necessary to kill it now.

>
> You'd loose the farm betting on a 3-card Monte game. You are still
> going for the misdirect! Funny...


Yeah, I'd loose the farm on it. That'd kill it immediately.

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Old 12-04-2008, 08:34 PM
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On 2008-12-04 11:08:22 -0800, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<newstrash@frontiernet.net> said:

> "Conscience" <nobama@gov.com> wrote in message
> news:gh99i2$g7c$3@news.albasani.net...
>> On 2008-12-04 11:00:44 -0800, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> <newstrash@frontiernet.net> said:
>>
>>> "Oscar Finkleheimer" <Limburgercheese@isgreat.stink> wrote in message
>>> news:Limburgercheese-4BD8D8.12540504122008@feeder.motzarella.org...
>>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html
>>>>
>>>> CHICAGO < The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up
>>>> a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a
>>>> continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's
>>>> election.
>>>>
>>>> The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's
>>>> supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.
>>>
>>>
>>> My prediction: The court will hear the case and decide it's a non-issue.
>>> Certain people will then say the court was wrong, that it was rigged, or
>>> who
>>> the hell knows what. It'll never end.

>>
>> You are correct. This will dog O for years.
>>
>> Me? I'd do everything necessary to kill it now.

>
> That depends on how much he trusts the American public to see (and enjoy)
> nonsense. We're talking about a public which ate up news about the origin of
> Tina Fey's facial scar.


It's too easy to kill it now. I'd do it.

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Old 12-04-2008, 08:34 PM
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In article <xn0fyiwddg4tg000h@reader.motzarella.org>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oscar Finkleheimer wrote:
>
> >http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html
> >
> >CHICAGO ‹ The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take
> >up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S.
> >citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some
> >opponents of Obama's election.
> >
> >The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's
> >supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.
> >
> >The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on
> >behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina
> >Mitchell Wells.
> >
> >Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite
> >appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the
> >tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's
> >election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen
> >or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.
> >
> >The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an
> >authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.
> >Hawaiian officials agree.
> >
> >Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the
> >2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of
> >votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a
> >federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which
> >Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.
> >
> >Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed
> >in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five
> >more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who
> >is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals
> >Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt." The
> >plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."
> >
> >The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in
> >Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to
> >enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The
> >U.S. Supreme Court declined to accept the case. Earlier, a federal
> >judge rejected it for "lack of standing" ‹ ruling that Berg had no
> >legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the
> >matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral
> >College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the
> >University of California at Los Angeles.
> >
> >The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells.
> >Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas
> >to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for
> >people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.
> >
> >Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases
> >distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that
> >782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard ‹
> >and not all of those ultimately were successful.

>
> My prediction is this will be squashed because the two parties decided
> several months ago BO was going to be the new president.


That is exactly my thoughts. The plan was laid out months ago that it
would be hillary or obama. It was their turn.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:30 AM
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This has what to do with Toyotae?

Jeff
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:32 AM
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:54:05 -0600, Oscar Finkleheimer wrote:

> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html
>
> CHICAGO ‹ The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up
> a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a
> continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's
> election.
>
> The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's
> supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.
>
> The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf
> of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell
> Wells.
>
> Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite
> appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip
> of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election
> over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he
> later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.
>
> The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an
> authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.
> Hawaiian officials agree.
>
> Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004
> Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes
> in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal
> judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian
> officials say is locked in a state vault.
>
> Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in
> Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more
> suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is
> currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived
> God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt." The plaintiff
> previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."
>
> The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in
> Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin
> the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S.
> Supreme Court declined to accept the case. Earlier, a federal judge
> rejected it for "lack of standing" ‹ ruling that Berg had no legal right
> to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best
> left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or
> Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of
> California at Los Angeles.
>
> The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells.
> Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to
> other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people
> unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.
>
> Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases
> distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782
> were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard ‹ and not
> all of those ultimately were successful.


Obama is a democrat and therefore exempt from the law and the constitution.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:32 AM
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"Michael Dobony" <survey@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:54:05 -0600, Oscar Finkleheimer wrote:
>
>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html
>>
>> CHICAGO < The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up
>> a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a
>> continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's
>> election.
>>
>> The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's
>> supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.
>>
>> The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf
>> of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell
>> Wells.
>>
>> Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite
>> appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip
>> of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election
>> over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he
>> later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.
>>
>> The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an
>> authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.
>> Hawaiian officials agree.
>>
>> Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004
>> Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes
>> in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal
>> judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian
>> officials say is locked in a state vault.
>>
>> Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in
>> Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more
>> suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is
>> currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived
>> God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt." The plaintiff
>> previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."
>>
>> The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in
>> Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin
>> the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S.
>> Supreme Court declined to accept the case. Earlier, a federal judge
>> rejected it for "lack of standing" < ruling that Berg had no legal right
>> to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best
>> left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or
>> Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of
>> California at Los Angeles.
>>
>> The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells.
>> Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to
>> other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people
>> unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.
>>
>> Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases
>> distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782
>> were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard < and not
>> all of those ultimately were successful.

>
> Obama is a democrat and therefore exempt from the law and the
> constitution.



Fortunately, he is the only politician from either party who is exempt in
the way you described. There've been no others.


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Old 12-05-2008, 06:32 PM
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Michael Dobony, 12/4/2008,9:33:23 PM, wrote:

> Obama is a democrat and therefore exempt from the law and the
> constitution.


There's something else that makes him truly exempt. However if anyone
dares mention it they'll be castigated.

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of gravity is racist." ~ Marion Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:32 PM
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In article <xn0fyk92kpkugm9001@news.albasani.net>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael Dobony, 12/4/2008,9:33:23 PM, wrote:
>
> > Obama is a democrat and therefore exempt from the law and the
> > constitution.

>
> There's something else that makes him truly exempt. However if anyone
> dares mention it they'll be castigated.


He's the first black president elected president, that's what the news
media said anyway.
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