"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message news:...
>
> " dbu.," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> newsemsonhotseatnow-ACD831.18241216012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <XY6dnVsbMpwo-jDYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
>>> newsemsonhotseatnow-EE968D.15585016012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> > In article <v5SdnShvXu6RozDYnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> > "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
>>> >> newsemsonhotseatnow-E0C06C.03200516012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >> > In article <ubqdnS3EoPVjqzHYnZ2dnUVZ_qisnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> >> > "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> newsemsonhotseatnow-97315E.20115015012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >> >> > In article <3BVqh.626$B25.201@news01.roc.ny>,
>>> >> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> <snipped>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> First, a minor sentence correction: Should read "...fall
>>> >> >> >> >> >> victim
>>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> disease at about the same rate as American men...."
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> As for your other requests, go to www.npr.org and search
>>> >> >> >> >> >> using
>>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> words
>>> >> >> >> >> >> "prostate cancer". Sift through the search results and
>>> >> >> >> >> >> you'll
>>> >> >> >> >> >> find
>>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> story. About two years back, if I recall.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Ok.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > You might want to visit here:
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > <http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/55678.cfm>
>>> >>
>>> >> >> As good as the Sloan-Kettering site will be re: info about
>>> >> >> cancers, I
>>> >> >> didn't
>>> >> >> see (granted, a quick look, but incl. a search) anything that
>>> >> >> addressed
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> particular scenario - Japanese men living in U.S. for some years,
>>> >> >> having
>>> >> >> same rates of occurrence as native-born Americans.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Cathy
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And you won't because there is no scientific study that supports
>>> >> > it.
>>> >>
>>> >> And you know this, how? Have you read all medical (& relevant
>>> >> scientific)
>>> >> journals for the last decade or so? (Doubt it!) And why wouldn't it
>>> >> be
>>> >> a
>>> >> topic of study for someone? For example, I know that the differences
>>> >> in
>>> >> symptoms between menopausal women in Japan & the U.S. (or perhaps
>>> >> N.A.?)
>>> >> have been studied. Japanese women experience hot flashes less often
>>> >> but
>>> >> experience "frozen shoulders" more often than American women.
>>> >> However, I
>>> >> don't think the reason why has been figured out. (Do I have a cite?
>>> >> Nope...)
>>> >>
>>> >> Cathy
>>> >
>>> > Bad day at the office?
>>>
>>> No, it went fine. But difficult time understanding how your reply
>>> actually
>>> responded to the previous posts in this part of the thread. Because this
>>> study wasn't mentioned in the Sloan-Kettering site, or that you don't
>>> know
>>> it exists, doesn't even begin to prove that it's non-existent.
>>>
>>> Cathy

>>
>> Was this a study? Or a news story?

> I'm assuming it was a study which made its way to the news.
>
> I'll pull a joesmallbedroom on ya.
>> Goggle to Mayo clinic, Johns Hopkins, or Cleveland clinic, do a search
>> for it then get back to me. If you find something significant then I
>> will sit up and pay attention.
>
> The search would have to be wider: JAMA (which I prob. can't get into?),
> PubMed, etc. I'm in the middle of correcting papers, working on report
> cards, etc. Would kind if like to do a wide search - rather interesting
> topic, but have to prioritize re: my time
>
> Cathy

I did a very, very quick Google & found this... glanced through it
super-quickly - looks like it might be at least partially relevant.
(excerpt: "Background: Fourfold to sixfold higher prostate cancer rates in
Japanese-American men in the United States compared with Japanese men in
Japan have been cited to support a role for environmental risk factors in
the etiology of the disease.")

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2120705


Cathy


>> Clinical studies are far different than news stories. I'm skeptical and
>> unless you can show me a valid clinical study, BTW, that does not even
>> prove anything, only suggests a correlation, otherwise then I'll have to
>> pass it by.
>> --
>>
>
>

In article <_5mdnat4x7Id6TDYnZ2dnUVZ_tOmnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:

> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message news:...
> >
> > " dbu.," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> > newsemsonhotseatnow-ACD831.18241216012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> In article <XY6dnVsbMpwo-jDYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> >>> newsemsonhotseatnow-EE968D.15585016012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >>> > In article <v5SdnShvXu6RozDYnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >>> > "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> newsemsonhotseatnow-E0C06C.03200516012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >>> >> > In article <ubqdnS3EoPVjqzHYnZ2dnUVZ_qisnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >>> >> > "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >> newsemsonhotseatnow-97315E.20115015012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com
> >>> >> >> ...
> >>> >> >> > In article <3BVqh.626$B25.201@news01.roc.ny>,
> >>> >> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> >> <snipped>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> First, a minor sentence correction: Should read "...fall
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> victim
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> disease at about the same rate as American men...."
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> As for your other requests, go to www.npr.org and search
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> using
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> words
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "prostate cancer". Sift through the search results and
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> you'll
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> find
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> story. About two years back, if I recall.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > Ok.
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > You might want to visit here:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >> > <http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/55678.cfm>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> As good as the Sloan-Kettering site will be re: info about
> >>> >> >> cancers, I
> >>> >> >> didn't
> >>> >> >> see (granted, a quick look, but incl. a search) anything that
> >>> >> >> addressed
> >>> >> >> that
> >>> >> >> particular scenario - Japanese men living in U.S. for some years,
> >>> >> >> having
> >>> >> >> same rates of occurrence as native-born Americans.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Cathy
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > And you won't because there is no scientific study that supports
> >>> >> > it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> And you know this, how? Have you read all medical (& relevant
> >>> >> scientific)
> >>> >> journals for the last decade or so? (Doubt it!) And why wouldn't it
> >>> >> be
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> topic of study for someone? For example, I know that the differences
> >>> >> in
> >>> >> symptoms between menopausal women in Japan & the U.S. (or perhaps
> >>> >> N.A.?)
> >>> >> have been studied. Japanese women experience hot flashes less often
> >>> >> but
> >>> >> experience "frozen shoulders" more often than American women.
> >>> >> However, I
> >>> >> don't think the reason why has been figured out. (Do I have a cite?
> >>> >> Nope...)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cathy
> >>> >
> >>> > Bad day at the office?
> >>>
> >>> No, it went fine. But difficult time understanding how your reply
> >>> actually
> >>> responded to the previous posts in this part of the thread. Because this
> >>> study wasn't mentioned in the Sloan-Kettering site, or that you don't
> >>> know
> >>> it exists, doesn't even begin to prove that it's non-existent.
> >>>
> >>> Cathy
>
> >>
> >> Was this a study? Or a news story?
>
> > I'm assuming it was a study which made its way to the news.
> >
> > I'll pull a joesmallbedroom on ya.
> >> Goggle to Mayo clinic, Johns Hopkins, or Cleveland clinic, do a search
> >> for it then get back to me. If you find something significant then I
> >> will sit up and pay attention.
> >
> > The search would have to be wider: JAMA (which I prob. can't get into?),
> > PubMed, etc. I'm in the middle of correcting papers, working on report
> > cards, etc. Would kind if like to do a wide search - rather interesting
> > topic, but have to prioritize re: my time
> >
> > Cathy
>
> I did a very, very quick Google & found this... glanced through it
> super-quickly - looks like it might be at least partially relevant.
> (excerpt: "Background: Fourfold to sixfold higher prostate cancer rates in
> Japanese-American men in the United States compared with Japanese men in
> Japan have been cited to support a role for environmental risk factors in
> the etiology of the disease.")
>
> http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2120705
>
>
> Cathy

Thanks. It appears that we do screen more here in the U.S. than in
Japan. This is also true in other countries. therefore we most likely
find more. I will go over it closer. It appears this in nothing too
much new.




>
>
> >> Clinical studies are far different than news stories. I'm skeptical and
> >> unless you can show me a valid clinical study, BTW, that does not even
> >> prove anything, only suggests a correlation, otherwise then I'll have to
> >> pass it by.
> >> --
> >>
> >
> >
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