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Old 01-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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Ha ha ha ha.

Unless you are flying a plane, forget it.

Hammo


On 19/1/07 11:39 PM, in article
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> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?
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What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?


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Old 01-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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Air is already 78% nitrogen. IMHO it's a waste of money, check your
tires once a month (more often in cold weather) and you'll be fine.


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Old 01-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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"D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?



There have been numerous discussions about this. Conclusion: It won't hurt,
but you'd be nuts to pay for it. Who's trying to sell it in your area? Pep
Boys?


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In article <4eWdnUZ8-cybIS3YnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@comcast.com>
ddpalmer@hotmail.com "D.D. Palmer" writes:

> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in
> tires?


Quite a lot, IIRC from a thread some months ago. Google could be
your friend, if you'd let it.
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Old 01-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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"D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?
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Good morning.
I know nitrogen is injected into those one cup coffee servings to help keep
the coffee grounds fresh. The plastic container and foil lid wouldn't hold
up to a vacuum seal.
It's not the answer you're looking for I know, but I wanted to give you one
example where it's benefit is undisputable.
mark_


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Old 01-19-2007, 05:48 PM
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"D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?



Used in racing all the time; helps keep pressures consistent in spite of
extreme temp changes.

I don't think you have to worry about the same extreme conditions in you
passenger vehicle so I'm not too sure what you will gain.

What do you expect to gain?

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Rob
"A disturbing new study finds that studies are disturbing"




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Old 01-19-2007, 05:48 PM
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"D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?


The nitrogen molecules are larger than O2, so tires supposedly loose
pressure from leaks much slower with pure nitrogen. Depends on how much more
it costs as to whether it is worth it.


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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:42:46 -0700, Mark A wrote:

> "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4eWdnUZ8-cybIS3YnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@comcast.com...
>> What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?

>
> The nitrogen molecules are larger than O2, so tires supposedly loose
> pressure from leaks much slower with pure nitrogen. Depends on how much
> more it costs as to whether it is worth it.



I bought my own compressor...I don't care!
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:48 PM
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:39:34 -0500, "D.D. Palmer"
<ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>What do you folks know about using nitrogen instead of air in tires?


If they're doing it for free as part of their normal service, can't
hurt and may help with tire longevity on cars that don't get driven a
lot - where the tires rot out before they wear out.

If they charge for it, or that shop charges more than the guys down
the street for the same tires, forget about it. It's supposed to be
an added draw to get customers, not an added profit center.

Getting the Oxygen (21%) out of the air they use in the tires does
keep the pressure constant in the tires and they don't leak down as
fast (Oxygen molecules are smaller and get through the gaps in the
rubber easier) and the inside rubber lining of the tire doesn't
deteriorate over long periods of time. But IMHO the effects are
minor.

The only place you /have/ to use Nitrogen is on aircraft and
specialty tires that run at ultra high pressures and go up to high
altitudes. Airplane tires run at 300 PSI on the ground, and when you
add in the reduced pressure at 40,000 feet...

--<< Bruce >>--

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