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    Default Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???

    2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow leaks...
    Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after cleaning the
    rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds the bead area of
    the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills them with nitrogen. He
    will do all 4 tires for $160.

    Does this sound like a good idea?
    Is the price right?
    I never heard of using nitrogen????

    He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont want to
    deal with putting air in every week....

    TIA for any advice..

    Steve



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    Ray O
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    Default Re: Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???


    "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    > 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    > I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow leaks...
    > Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after cleaning the
    > rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds the bead area of
    > the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills them with nitrogen. He
    > will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >
    > Does this sound like a good idea?
    > Is the price right?
    > I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >
    > He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    > Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont want
    > to
    > deal with putting air in every week....
    >
    > TIA for any advice..
    >
    > Steve
    >

    $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department at
    that time.

    Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    more slowly.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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    JoeSpareBedroom
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    "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    > 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    > I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow leaks...
    > Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after cleaning the
    > rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds the bead area of
    > the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills them with nitrogen. He
    > will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >
    > Does this sound like a good idea?
    > Is the price right?
    > I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >
    > He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    > Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont want
    > to
    > deal with putting air in every week....
    >
    > TIA for any advice..
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >


    The nitrogen won't hurt, but it's largely irrelevant. The problem is the
    rims, and the guy's got the right idea. Are these aluminum alloy rims?



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    On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:55:45 -0600, Ray O wrote:

    >
    > "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    > news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    >> 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    >> I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow
    >> leaks... Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after
    >> cleaning the rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds
    >> the bead area of the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills
    >> them with nitrogen. He will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >>
    >> Does this sound like a good idea?
    >> Is the price right?
    >> I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >>
    >> He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    >> Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont
    >> want to
    >> deal with putting air in every week....
    >>
    >> TIA for any advice..
    >>
    >> Steve
    >>

    > $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    > slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    > wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department at
    > that time.
    >
    > Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    > more slowly.



    I'm Ernie Boch! Come on down!

    I don't know if he's still alive or not, but I believe he retired a few
    years ago. Um...quite a few...


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    Ron
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    Default Re: Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???

    As Joe says be careful "grinding" rims - we've had 3 Avalons and all had had
    aluminum alloy wheels..

    Costco does mount/balance/rotate/fill with Nitrogen for $16.00 tire if you
    are a member and didn't buy them there. I've never had a tire leak at the
    bead that was properly installed and any decent tech will clean it properly
    before installing
    Ron



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    Ray O
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    Default Re: Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???


    "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
    news:fuPvh.20826$Mx4.18279@trndny07...
    > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:55:45 -0600, Ray O wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    >> news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    >>> 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    >>> I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow
    >>> leaks... Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after
    >>> cleaning the rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds
    >>> the bead area of the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills
    >>> them with nitrogen. He will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >>>
    >>> Does this sound like a good idea?
    >>> Is the price right?
    >>> I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >>>
    >>> He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    >>> Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont
    >>> want to
    >>> deal with putting air in every week....
    >>>
    >>> TIA for any advice..
    >>>
    >>> Steve
    >>>

    >> $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    >> slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    >> wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department
    >> at
    >> that time.
    >>
    >> Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    >> more slowly.

    >
    >
    > I'm Ernie Boch! Come on down!
    >
    > I don't know if he's still alive or not, but I believe he retired a few
    > years ago. Um...quite a few...
    >


    Ernie is quite the character - he also happens to be the Subaru distributor
    in New England. He used to joke that he wouldn't retire until he was a
    billionaire, and our guess was that he was about 3 quarters of the way
    there. His local house was an unassuming raised ranch, although he had the
    requisite mansion on the vinyard were he spent weekends.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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    Ph@Boy
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    Default Re: Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???

    Ray O wrote:
    > "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    > news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    >> 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    >> I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow leaks...
    >> Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after cleaning the
    >> rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds the bead area of
    >> the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills them with nitrogen. He
    >> will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >>
    >> Does this sound like a good idea?
    >> Is the price right?
    >> I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >>
    >> He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    >> Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont want
    >> to
    >> deal with putting air in every week....
    >>
    >> TIA for any advice..
    >>
    >> Steve
    >>

    > $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    > slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    > wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department at
    > that time.
    >
    > Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    > more slowly.



    That's a good one Ray! I hear Argon even leaks slower than Nitrogen,
    it's "thicker". LMFAO!!

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    Mark
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    Default Re: Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???

    All this discussion of nitrogen and how it leaks more slowly than
    oxygen from a tire due to the size of the N2 molecule has me thinking
    -

    Since air is 80% nitrogen, and tires preferentially leak oxygen, you
    would think that the "air" in a tire several years old that has been
    topped off a number of times since it was put on the rim would be
    nearly 100% nitrogen anyway, right?

    I wonder if anyone has tested the "air" in an "old" tire to see if
    that is the case?



    On Jan 30, 12:55 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>
    wrote:
    > "comcastss news groups" <sri...@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in messagenews:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    >
    >
    >
    > > 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    > > I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow leaks...
    > > Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after cleaning the
    > > rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds the bead area of
    > > the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills them with nitrogen. He
    > > will do all 4 tires for $160.

    >
    > > Does this sound like a good idea?
    > > Is the price right?
    > > I never heard of using nitrogen????

    >
    > > He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on an
    > > Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont want
    > > to
    > > deal with putting air in every week....

    >
    > > TIA for any advice..

    >
    > > Steve

    >
    > $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    > slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    > wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department at
    > that time.
    >
    > Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    > more slowly.
    > --
    >
    > Ray O
    > (correct punctuation to reply)- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -




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    On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:15:56 -0500, Ph@Boy wrote:

    > Ray O wrote:
    >> "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    >> news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    >>> 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    >>> I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow
    >>> leaks... Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after
    >>> cleaning the rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds
    >>> the bead area of the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills
    >>> them with nitrogen. He will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >>>
    >>> Does this sound like a good idea?
    >>> Is the price right?
    >>> I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >>>
    >>> He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on
    >>> an Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont
    >>> want to
    >>> deal with putting air in every week....
    >>>
    >>> TIA for any advice..
    >>>
    >>> Steve
    >>>

    >> $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    >> slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    >> wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department
    >> at that time.
    >>
    >> Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    >> more slowly.

    >
    >
    > That's a good one Ray! I hear Argon even leaks slower than Nitrogen, it's
    > "thicker". LMFAO!!



    Then it should work!

    How about Hydrogen? Not only might it leak slower, it would also reduce
    your unsprung weight!



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    Ph@Boy
    Guest

    Default Re: Is this a good fix for slow leaks in tire???

    Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:
    > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:15:56 -0500, Ph@Boy wrote:
    >
    >> Ray O wrote:
    >>> "comcastss news groups" <srivet@starprintingcorp.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:-pWdnXBlQ4jpHyLYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@conversent.net...
    >>>> 2002 Avelon. bought used at Boch new to you. They mounted 4 new tires.
    >>>> I've had the same problem before with used cars where I have slow
    >>>> leaks... Tire specialist near my work wants to remount the tires after
    >>>> cleaning the rims. he showed me the machine he has that scrubs/grinds
    >>>> the bead area of the rim clean. he also seals the rim and then fills
    >>>> them with nitrogen. He will do all 4 tires for $160.
    >>>>
    >>>> Does this sound like a good idea?
    >>>> Is the price right?
    >>>> I never heard of using nitrogen????
    >>>>
    >>>> He was quite upset that the dealer mounted such poor quality tires on
    >>>> an Avalon but the are new and I'm not going to buy new ones I just dont
    >>>> want to
    >>>> deal with putting air in every week....
    >>>>
    >>>> TIA for any advice..
    >>>>
    >>>> Steve
    >>>>
    >>> $160 sounds high to me. I would go back to Boch and ask them to fix the
    >>> slow leaks, using a generous coating of bead sealer on the inside of the
    >>> wheels. I used to call on them, and they had a good service department
    >>> at that time.
    >>>
    >>> Nitrogen is becoming more common to fill tires. It supposedly leaks out
    >>> more slowly.

    >>
    >> That's a good one Ray! I hear Argon even leaks slower than Nitrogen, it's
    >> "thicker". LMFAO!!

    >
    >
    > Then it should work!
    >
    > How about Hydrogen? Not only might it leak slower, it would also reduce
    > your unsprung weight!
    >
    >

    Not only that, but you could open the valve cores slightly and use a
    remote igniter for a JATO assist over that pesky overpass or rush hour
    traffic. That might become trendy and popular with the discriminating
    young pimp-my-ride crowd.

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