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    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Someone from Australia has been lying to me

    I don't know if "lying" is the right word, but I certainly was led to
    be believe that Australia was "different." Now I find this comment
    about Australia...

    "I'm Dutch but live in Australia, no way i'm riding a bike here, way
    to dangerous!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rETL...eature=related

    The Dutch ride in the snow, and they would probably ride through the
    Outback if they had one. They would ride into the Everglades and the
    Florida Keys as well.

    That's why I insist on the Dutch model for the world. Well, Australia
    can teach us how to surf, and they are not afraid of the crocs either.
    They love being outside the cage. But their greatest contribution to
    the world is the didgeridoo, bringing to life the energy of primitive
    people before they were polluted by Western materialist culture. We
    can really put together a truly cosmopolitan wisdom, borrowing, of
    course, from the frugality of Tibetan wisdom and practicality African
    wisdom. The Mayan and American Indians collaborate the hammock and
    roaming free on horseback. Those Indians riding bareback on horse are
    really an inspiration for the bike rider hunting for bargains. It
    could be a trip to the market at least. Only the guy in pith helmet is
    missing... That's me. Hey, I'm not imperialistic just the safari guy
    trying to tame the capitalist jungle.

    We are the only hope the world got.


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    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Re: Someone from Australia has been lying to me

    On Jan 19, 9:58 pm, James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com> wrote:

    > On 20/01/2012 11:52 AM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


    > > I don't know if "lying" is the right word, but I certainly was led to
    > > be believe that Australia was "different."


    > Anywhere is different from everywhere else.


    > > Now I find this comment
    > > about Australia...


    > > "I'm Dutch but live in Australia, no way i'm riding a bike here, way
    > > to dangerous!"


    > Frank knows a couple of Aussies who say it's fine, so this Dutchman must
    > be wrong.


    > (BTW, I know at least a few Dutchmen who ride bike here, in Melbourne,
    > Australia. Obviously not too dangerous for them.)


    > --
    > JS.


    Not nearly as smart as the Dutch, rather useless, not very
    practical...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A59Hl...eature=related

    But Australia is too far to know what's going on in Europe. "No access
    to Dutch bikes." I do have some Dutch bike though which I try to put
    to work:

    I found bananas at 25 cents the lb, 4 miles away. It sounds like a
    good reason to go bargain hunting. Regular price is 69 cents...

    This is a practical application for cycling --Dutch style-- even when
    I don't care about the savings. I just want to be out, hand out a few
    fliers and educate people perhaps. The route is rather grinding,
    struggling with pedestrians and construction across bridge. They are
    always fixing that road, which pisses me off. No bike facilities.
    There's one gaping hole on sidewalk that never gets fixed. The scenery
    is great.

    Is it worth it? Maybe we'll strap the bikes to the car and go
    somewhere.

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    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    Drivers argue that they are giving you a "friendly warning" with the
    horn, as if we didn't know cars are next to us, and in time, driver
    after driver, make it nagging, something that tempts you to stop and
    face them. Sometimes I do, but it's not very smart. They think you are
    stupid and that makes me mad. But maybe they are stupid and honking is
    their most primal reflex to make noise. They do not understand, don't
    want to understand, that you are there because you have no wings.
    That's a humoristic approach I follow. I tell them or signal them, "I
    got no wings!" Acting like chicken flapping their wings should get the
    point to their primitive minds. Forget about making sense. "Sharing
    the road" with drivers doesn't make sense, doesn't mean a thing
    actually. The lane you are riding on is all yours.

    On the other hand, I some times think that we are under direct attack
    from drivers. They are using the horn for INTIMIDATION. That's an
    attack and that's bad.

    The interpretation of "honking the horn" is something that has to with
    the interpretation of jungle language. We got to try sign language.
    Please refrain from the finger.


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    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    On Jan 20, 1:29 pm, Art Harris <n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" wrote:
    >
    > > Drivers argue that they are giving you a "friendly warning," as if we
    > > didn't know cars are next to us, and in time, driver after driver,
    > > make it nagging, something that tempts you to stop and face them.
    > > Sometimes I do, but it's not very smart. They think you are stupid and
    > > that makes me mad.

    >
    > When I took Driver's Ed in high school circa 1967, we were taught to
    > give a gentle toot of the horn when overtaking a cyclist. Yes, it can
    > be annoying, but it's the least of our problems with motorists. I
    > certainly don't take it as an attack!
    >
    > Art Harris


    I bet they never asked the cyclists how they felt about it. It can be
    nerve wrecking and frustrating to figure out what the honking means.
    It can make you fall and die.

    It's exactly the same as trying to read signals from animals. What a
    dog means when he barks? Is he afraid or aggressive? I don't care
    either way.

    We got to ask this guy...

    http://www.cesarsway.com/

    That's Cesar's way. I call my way the TibetanMonkey way. Taming
    drivers is tougher though. They got power and money and are
    overwhelmingly supported by the system. Well, I'll think of something.
    How about a banana? Maybe not. Reward and punishment should work
    though.


  5. #5
    Tom
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    On 1/20/12 5:24 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
    > Drivers argue that they are giving you a "friendly warning" with the
    > horn, as if we didn't know cars are next to us, and in time, driver
    > after driver, make it nagging, something that tempts you to stop and
    > face them. Sometimes I do, but it's not very smart. They think you are
    > stupid and that makes me mad. But maybe they are stupid and honking is
    > their most primal reflex to make noise. They do not understand, don't
    > want to understand, that you are there because you have no wings.
    > That's a humoristic approach I follow. I tell them or signal them, "I
    > got no wings!" Acting like chicken flapping their wings should get the
    > point to their primitive minds. Forget about making sense. "Sharing
    > the road" with drivers doesn't make sense, doesn't mean a thing
    > actually. The lane you are riding on is all yours.
    >
    > On the other hand, I some times think that we are under direct attack
    > from drivers. They are using the horn for INTIMIDATION. That's an
    > attack and that's bad.
    >
    > The interpretation of "honking the horn" is something that has to with
    > the interpretation of jungle language. We got to try sign language.
    > Please refrain from the finger.
    >


    first law of the jungle Dont Pull The Lions tail especially when hes
    behind the wheel of that big SUV

  6. #6
    Bob Crachet
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    On 1/20/2012 7:00 PM, Tom wrote:
    > On 1/20/12 5:24 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
    >> Drivers argue that they are giving you a "friendly warning" with the
    >> horn, as if we didn't know cars are next to us, and in time, driver
    >> after driver, make it nagging, something that tempts you to stop and
    >> face them. Sometimes I do, but it's not very smart. They think you are
    >> stupid and that makes me mad. But maybe they are stupid and honking isAnything
    >> their most primal reflex to make noise. They do not understand, don't
    >> want to understand, that you are there because you have no wings.
    >> That's a humoristic approach I follow. I tell them or signal them, "I
    >> got no wings!" Acting like chicken flapping their wings should get the
    >> point to their primitive minds. Forget about making sense. "Sharing
    >> the road" with drivers doesn't make sense, doesn't mean a thing
    >> actually. The lane you are riding on is all yours.
    >>
    >> On the other hand, I some times think that we are under direct attack
    >> from drivers. They are using the horn for INTIMIDATION. That's an
    >> attack and that's bad.
    >>
    >> The interpretation of "honking the horn" is something that has to with
    >> the interpretation of jungle language. We got to try sign language.
    >> Please refrain from the finger.
    >>Now the

    >
    > first law of the jungle Dont Pull The Lions tail especially when hes
    > behind the wheel of that big SUV

    Anything is an insult today. Blink your headlights at a woman, on her
    cell, making notes on a pad, on the steering wheel, and all over the
    left lane, at 45 mph and she will call the cops and complain of road rage.
    Now that HS has enlisted Truckers to report anything suspicious they
    take license to call 911 anytime they dream up offense.
    Was in the exit lane to get off the Interstate and there was a wreck a
    little ways up. Trucker came over forcing me almost into the rail. He
    didn't think I should exit and was weaving between the right lane and
    exit ramp to keep anybody getting in front of him I guess. As I eased
    past and off I could see him in his cab dancing around in rage and on
    his cell phone. Got off and went to gas station and got back on at next
    next entrance. He apparently had just gotten by the obstruction. He was
    on my bumper at ridiculous speeds. I changed lanes several time to get
    out of his way before finally getting to an exit. There was no governor
    on that truck. I thought about calling 911 but no good would come of it.



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    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    On Jan 20, 7:39*pm, Bob Crachet <@newspi.rit> wrote:
    > On 1/20/2012 7:00 PM, Tom wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 1/20/12 5:24 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
    > >> Drivers argue that they are giving you a "friendly warning" with the
    > >> horn, as if we didn't know cars are next to us, and in time, driver
    > >> after driver, make it nagging, something that tempts you to stop and
    > >> face them. Sometimes I do, but it's not very smart. They think you are
    > >> stupid and that makes me mad. But maybe they are stupid and honking isAnything
    > >> their most primal reflex to make noise. They do not understand, don't
    > >> want to understand, that you are there because you have no wings.
    > >> That's a humoristic approach I follow. I tell them or signal them, "I
    > >> got no wings!" Acting like chicken flapping their wings should get the
    > >> point to their primitive minds. Forget about making sense. "Sharing
    > >> the road" with drivers doesn't make sense, doesn't mean a thing
    > >> actually. The lane you are riding on is all yours.

    >
    > >> On the other hand, I some times think that we are under direct attack
    > >> from drivers. They are using the horn for INTIMIDATION. That's an
    > >> attack and that's bad.

    >
    > >> The interpretation of "honking the horn" is something that has to with
    > >> the interpretation of jungle language. We got to try sign language.
    > >> Please refrain from the finger.
    > >>Now the

    >
    > > first law of the jungle Dont Pull The Lions tail especially when hes
    > > behind the wheel of that big SUV

    >
    > Anything is an insult today. Blink your headlights at a woman, on her
    > cell, making notes on a pad, on the steering wheel, and all over the
    > left lane, at 45 mph and she will call the cops and complain of road rage..
    > Now that HS has enlisted Truckers to report anything suspicious they
    > take license to call 911 anytime they dream up offense.
    > Was in the exit lane to get off the Interstate and there was a wreck a
    > little ways up. Trucker came over forcing me almost into the rail. He
    > didn't think I should exit and was weaving between the right lane and
    > exit ramp to keep anybody getting in front of him I guess. As I eased
    > past and off I could see him in his cab dancing around in rage and on
    > his cell phone. Got off and went to gas station and got back on at next
    > next entrance. He apparently had just gotten by the obstruction. He was
    > on my bumper at ridiculous speeds. I changed lanes several time to get
    > out of his way before finally getting to an exit. There was no governor
    > on that truck. I thought about calling 911 but no good would come of it.


    There's some movie about such an intimating truck on a wild chase. I
    think you seriously need a shotgun to be out there.

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    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    On Jan 20, 7:00*pm, Tom <t...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > On 1/20/12 5:24 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > Drivers argue that they are giving you a "friendly warning" with the
    > > horn, as if we didn't know cars are next to us, and in time, driver
    > > after driver, make it nagging, something that tempts you to stop and
    > > face them. Sometimes I do, but it's not very smart. They think you are
    > > stupid and that makes me mad. But maybe they are stupid and honking is
    > > their most primal reflex to make noise. They do not understand, don't
    > > want to understand, that you are there because you have no wings.
    > > That's a humoristic approach I follow. I tell them or signal them, "I
    > > got no wings!" Acting like chicken flapping their wings should get the
    > > point to their primitive minds. Forget about making sense. "Sharing
    > > the road" with drivers doesn't make sense, doesn't mean a thing
    > > actually. The lane you are riding on is all yours.

    >
    > > On the other hand, I some times think that we are under direct attack
    > > from drivers. They are using the horn for INTIMIDATION. That's an
    > > attack and that's bad.

    >
    > > The interpretation of "honking the horn" is something that has to with
    > > the interpretation of jungle language. We got to try sign language.
    > > Please refrain from the finger.

    >
    > first law of the jungle Dont Pull The Lions tail especially when hes
    > behind the wheel of that big SUV


    They love to make that motor roar. Yes, it's intimidating and I feel
    like I want to be in my car and shut up the windows.

  9. #9
    TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?

    I got an idea that I borrowed from Cesar...

    http://www.cesarsway.com/shop/Illusi...r-Leash-System

    Make bad drivers wear a collar like that so we all know he's
    aggressive animal. They shouldn't be loose out there.


  10. #10
    Jeff Strickland
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    Default Re: Do you consider honking nagging or an attack?


    >> On 1/20/12 5:24 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


    >> On the other hand, I some times think that we are under direct attack
    >> from drivers. They are using the horn for INTIMIDATION. That's an
    >> attack and that's bad.
    >>



    On the other hand, just because you are paranoid does not mean we are not
    out to get you.





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