One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get
oil all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390
beats out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil
when I change it.
jor

The filters on the Toyotas I have owned (87 Camry, 87 Nova/Corolla, 03
Matrix, 06 Scion tC) are oriented vertically pointing up, or nearly
so. I put a pan under the filter (which is normally close enough to
the drain plug so one pan can do double duty while the pan is
draining), loosen the filter a bit to let the oil "above" the filter
in the motor drain into the pan, wait a few minutes and then loosen
and remove the filter, dropping it down and tilting it so the
remaining oil in the filter goes into the pan. Yes, some oil runs
down around the filter when it's loosened, but I remove the filter
with a rag in my hand that catches any stray oil running down the
side. I normally spill very little or none at all.

At least Toyota filters are on the front of the motor, the Hondas I
have seen/owned were behind the motor or on the side where access is
more difficult.


On Feb 5, 9:59 am, jor <j...@jor.com> wrote:
> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get
> oil all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390
> beats out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil
> when I change it.
> jor

On Feb 5, 9:59 am, jor <j...@jor.com> wrote:
> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get
> oil all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390
> beats out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil
> when I change it.
> jor

My SO's new RAV4 (4 cyl) has a great filter location. It is hanging
straight down at the front of the vehicle on the passenger side in the
clear. Not the easiest, but very good. It is sooo much better than the
filter on my Nissan Frontier which is buried behind a splash shield
with a removable panel that is way to small. My Sister's Honda is even
worse, it is on the back side of the engine under the intake and just
over the exhaust pipe. You can't even see the filter without jacking
up the car. It invariably drips oil on the exhaust so you get that
burning oil smell after every oil change.

Ed

Note - that should say "so that one pan can do double duty while the
*oil* is draining"


On Feb 5, 10:46 am, "Mark" <bogusmailm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The filters on the Toyotas I have owned (87 Camry, 87 Nova/Corolla, 03
> Matrix, 06 Scion tC) are oriented vertically pointing up, or nearly
> so. I put a pan under the filter (which is normally close enough to
> the drain plug so one pan can do double duty while the pan is
> draining), loosen the filter a bit to let the oil "above" the filter
> in the motor drain into the pan, wait a few minutes and then loosen
> and remove the filter, dropping it down and tilting it so the
> remaining oil in the filter goes into the pan. Yes, some oil runs
> down around the filter when it's loosened, but I remove the filter
> with a rag in my hand that catches any stray oil running down the
> side. I normally spill very little or none at all.
>
> At least Toyota filters are on the front of the motor, the Hondas I
> have seen/owned were behind the motor or on the side where access is
> more difficult.
>
> On Feb 5, 9:59 am, jor <j...@jor.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
> > many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
> > manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get
> > oil all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390
> > beats out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil
> > when I change it.
> > jor- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"jor" <jor@jor.com> wrote in message news:2007020507594775249-jor@jorcom...
> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get oil
> all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390 beats
> out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil when I
> change it.
> jor
>

Oil filter orientation is a pet peeve of mine as well!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "jor" <jor@jor.com> wrote in message
> news:2007020507594775249-jor@jorcom...
>> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
>> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
>> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get oil
>> all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390 beats
>> out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil when I
>> change it.
>> jor
>>
>
> Oil filter orientation is a pet peeve of mine as well!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

We need to discover the CIA's most feared interrogation technique
(waterboarding?), and get some answer from a sizeable sampling of mechanical
engineering droids. Somebody knows why oil filters are set up this way, but
nobody's talking.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:98f10$45c76e31$44a4a10d$27749@msgid.meganewss ervers.com...
>>
>> "jor" <jor@jor.com> wrote in message
>> news:2007020507594775249-jor@jorcom...
>>> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
>>> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
>>> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get oil
>>> all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390 beats
>>> out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil when I
>>> change it.
>>> jor
>>>
>>
>> Oil filter orientation is a pet peeve of mine as well!
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>
> We need to discover the CIA's most feared interrogation technique
> (waterboarding?), and get some answer from a sizeable sampling of
> mechanical engineering droids. Somebody knows why oil filters are set up
> this way, but nobody's talking.
The solution to an oil filter that is oriented so its contents will spill
when removed is an elbow adapter like that used on the Camry for a while.
The drawbacks are additional cost (although I think most do-it-yourselfers
would gladly pay an additional $20 for an adapter), another potential source
of leaks where the adapter mounts to the block, and in some cases, fit in
the engine compartment.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"jor" <jor@jor.com> wrote in message news:2007020507594775249-jor@jorcom...
> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get oil
> all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390 beats
> out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil when I
> change it.
> jor

There is a lot more stuff in the engine bay of a modern vehicle compared to
a 1967 model. This includes (but is not limited to) the transmission on a
front wheel drive vehicle. I think you would find that a modern Ford engine
bay would be equally cramped.

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> mumbled incoherently to the rest
of alt.autos.toyota:

>
> "jor" <jor@jor.com> wrote in message
> news:2007020507594775249-jor@jorcom...
>> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
>> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
>> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get oil
>> all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390 beats
>> out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil when I
>> change it.
>> jor
>>
>
> Oil filter orientation is a pet peeve of mine as well!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

Have you seen it on the celicas 3sgte? Have you?! (*£$&&£$(* stupid
designer!
--
J
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:46:11 -0800, Mark wrote:

> The filters on the Toyotas I have owned (87 Camry, 87 Nova/Corolla, 03
> Matrix, 06 Scion tC) are oriented vertically pointing up, or nearly
> so. I put a pan under the filter (which is normally close enough to
> the drain plug so one pan can do double duty while the pan is
> draining), loosen the filter a bit to let the oil "above" the filter
> in the motor drain into the pan, wait a few minutes and then loosen
> and remove the filter, dropping it down and tilting it so the
> remaining oil in the filter goes into the pan. Yes, some oil runs
> down around the filter when it's loosened, but I remove the filter
> with a rag in my hand that catches any stray oil running down the
> side. I normally spill very little or none at all.
>
> At least Toyota filters are on the front of the motor, the Hondas I
> have seen/owned were behind the motor or on the side where access is
> more difficult.

Likewise with my Mazda. My 1974 Corolla and my 1985 VW Jetta were the best
placements I ever saw. The Corolla was in 2nd place: the filter was right
in the front top side of the block, but pointed down, so when you took it
off, all the oil ran out, The Jetta had that beat. When you opened the
hood, it was right smack in front of you, pointed UP, so when you took it
off all the oil stayed in the filter.

My least favorite is the 'hachiroku', directly below the exhaust manifold
(no wonder the car came stock with an oil cooler...)

Can't remember on the supra. On the tC, it is behind the grille/front
facade, right-side up (doesn't spill_ but you have to get under the car to
get to it. Nice if you have a lift! I guess that makes the tC #2, and the
Corolla come in in third place...




>
>
> On Feb 5, 9:59 am, jor <j...@jor.com> wrote:
>> One thing that has always aggravated me about oil filters on Toyota and
>> many other makes is the placement or orientation of the filter. Why do
>> manufacturers insist on orienting it in such a way that I always get
>> oil all over the engine? This is one area in which my old 67 Ford 390
>> beats out my Toyota. The filter is easy to get at and I don't spill oil
>> when I change it.
>> jor