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Discuss Black Transmission Fluid - - Any Hope??? in the alt.autos.toyota forum at Car Dealer Forums; "decoyfred" <decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in message news:decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com... > > Hey all, > > My wife and ...
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    C. E. White
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    Default Re: Black Transmission Fluid - - Any Hope???

    "decoyfred" <decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in message
    news:decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com...
    >
    > Hey all,
    >
    > My wife and I just got hitched and I've now inherited the
    > responsibility of maintaining her little 2002 Toyota Rav4... her
    > pride
    > and joy. I've been taking it in for its regular oil changes for a
    > while
    > now and decided to check on the transmission fluid the other day...
    > turns out it's never been changed. Ever.
    >
    > The car now has over 120K miles and has no super-major transmission
    > concerns "yet," but the tranny fluid is, of course, about as black
    > as
    > it gets. I was about to have the fluid and filter changed out but
    > the
    > mechanic said that once it gets that dark it's better to leave it in
    > and start saving for a new tranny. He explained that the sediment in
    > the fluid, if drained, would settle into the transmission's inner
    > parts
    > and more than likely ruin it right away.
    >
    > Does anyone have any experience with something like this? Is it
    > possible to save this tranny? Is this an exaggeration?
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help and shared knowledge! :smokin:
    >
    >
    > --
    > decoyfred


    You'd probably get a better answer from the people in the Toyota
    newsgroup.

    Ed





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    Ray O
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    "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:46377637$1@kcnews01...
    > "decoyfred" <decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in message
    > news:decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com...
    >>
    >> Hey all,
    >>
    >> My wife and I just got hitched and I've now inherited the
    >> responsibility of maintaining her little 2002 Toyota Rav4... her pride
    >> and joy. I've been taking it in for its regular oil changes for a while
    >> now and decided to check on the transmission fluid the other day...
    >> turns out it's never been changed. Ever.
    >>
    >> The car now has over 120K miles and has no super-major transmission
    >> concerns "yet," but the tranny fluid is, of course, about as black as
    >> it gets. I was about to have the fluid and filter changed out but the
    >> mechanic said that once it gets that dark it's better to leave it in
    >> and start saving for a new tranny. He explained that the sediment in
    >> the fluid, if drained, would settle into the transmission's inner parts
    >> and more than likely ruin it right away.
    >>
    >> Does anyone have any experience with something like this? Is it
    >> possible to save this tranny? Is this an exaggeration?
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for your help and shared knowledge! :smokin:
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> decoyfred

    >
    > You'd probably get a better answer from the people in the Toyota
    > newsgroup.
    >
    > Ed


    Just have the automatic transmission fluid drained and re-filled by someone
    other than the one who told you not to change the fluid. Do not get it
    flushed, or you can run into problems from sediment getting lodged in small
    passages.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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    hachiroku
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    Default Re: Black Transmission Fluid - - Any Hope???

    On Tue, 01 May 2007 13:15:13 -0400, C. E. White wrote:

    > "decoyfred" <decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in message
    > news:decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com...
    >>
    >> Hey all,
    >>
    >> My wife and I just got hitched and I've now inherited the
    >> responsibility of maintaining her little 2002 Toyota Rav4... her
    >> pride
    >> and joy. I've been taking it in for its regular oil changes for a
    >> while
    >> now and decided to check on the transmission fluid the other day...
    >> turns out it's never been changed. Ever.
    >>
    >> The car now has over 120K miles and has no super-major transmission
    >> concerns "yet," but the tranny fluid is, of course, about as black
    >> as
    >> it gets. I was about to have the fluid and filter changed out but
    >> the
    >> mechanic said that once it gets that dark it's better to leave it in
    >> and start saving for a new tranny. He explained that the sediment in
    >> the fluid, if drained, would settle into the transmission's inner
    >> parts
    >> and more than likely ruin it right away.
    >>
    >> Does anyone have any experience with something like this? Is it
    >> possible to save this tranny? Is this an exaggeration?
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for your help and shared knowledge! :smokin:
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> decoyfred

    >
    > You'd probably get a better answer from the people in the Toyota
    > newsgroup.
    >
    > Ed



    DON'T FLUSH IT!!! Unless, of course, you just want to install a new tranny!

    Drain and fill. Good enough.

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    Mel
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    Default Re: Black Transmission Fluid - - Any Hope???

    I burned the transmission fluid in my 91 Camry very badly. Severl mechinics
    told me the same story ... buy a new car ... the trainsmission is going to
    fail soon ... waste of money ... etc.

    I went to a transmisison shop and they dropped the pan on the transmission
    (150K miles) and found no dirt, no metal particles, it was totally cleaned.
    I flushed it 4 times to get it totally clean and now the car has 230K on it
    with no problems. I never changed the oil before. The car runs perfectly.

    I checked with several junk yards and they told me Toyota transmissions
    never fail.

    I hope this helps

    Mel




    "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:46377637$1@kcnews01...
    > "decoyfred" <decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in message
    > news:decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com...
    >>
    >> Hey all,
    >>
    >> My wife and I just got hitched and I've now inherited the
    >> responsibility of maintaining her little 2002 Toyota Rav4... her pride
    >> and joy. I've been taking it in for its regular oil changes for a while
    >> now and decided to check on the transmission fluid the other day...
    >> turns out it's never been changed. Ever.
    >>
    >> The car now has over 120K miles and has no super-major transmission
    >> concerns "yet," but the tranny fluid is, of course, about as black as
    >> it gets. I was about to have the fluid and filter changed out but the
    >> mechanic said that once it gets that dark it's better to leave it in
    >> and start saving for a new tranny. He explained that the sediment in
    >> the fluid, if drained, would settle into the transmission's inner parts
    >> and more than likely ruin it right away.
    >>
    >> Does anyone have any experience with something like this? Is it
    >> possible to save this tranny? Is this an exaggeration?
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for your help and shared knowledge! :smokin:
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> decoyfred

    >
    > You'd probably get a better answer from the people in the Toyota
    > newsgroup.
    >
    > Ed
    >




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    C. E. White
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    "Mel" <NS_mel@texas.net> wrote in message
    news:f19vs1$t8q$2@aioe.org...

    > I checked with several junk yards and they told me Toyota
    > transmissions never fail.


    Well, I have personal knowledge of two that failed - 84 Cressida and
    89 Camry (kept working, but leaked so much oil you had to add it
    before leaving the house).

    Ed



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    =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=
    Guest

    Default Re: Black Transmission Fluid - - Any Hope???

    On Wed, 02 May 2007 07:23:29 -0500, Mel wrote:

    > I burned the transmission fluid in my 91 Camry very badly. Severl
    > mechinics told me the same story ... buy a new car ... the trainsmission
    > is going to fail soon ... waste of money ... etc.
    >
    > I went to a transmisison shop and they dropped the pan on the transmission
    > (150K miles) and found no dirt, no metal particles, it was totally
    > cleaned. I flushed it 4 times to get it totally clean and now the car has
    > 230K on it with no problems. I never changed the oil before. The car
    > runs perfectly.
    >
    > I checked with several junk yards and they told me Toyota transmissions
    > never fail.
    >
    > I hope this helps
    >
    > Mel


    I hope you drop $1 and light a candle in the church you attend. Someone is
    watching over you!




    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
    > news:46377637$1@kcnews01...
    >> "decoyfred" <decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote in message
    >> news:decoyfred.2plqbd@no-mx.nodomain.com...
    >>>
    >>> Hey all,
    >>>
    >>> My wife and I just got hitched and I've now inherited the
    >>> responsibility of maintaining her little 2002 Toyota Rav4... her pride
    >>> and joy. I've been taking it in for its regular oil changes for a while
    >>> now and decided to check on the transmission fluid the other day...
    >>> turns out it's never been changed. Ever.
    >>>
    >>> The car now has over 120K miles and has no super-major transmission
    >>> concerns "yet," but the tranny fluid is, of course, about as black as
    >>> it gets. I was about to have the fluid and filter changed out but the
    >>> mechanic said that once it gets that dark it's better to leave it in
    >>> and start saving for a new tranny. He explained that the sediment in
    >>> the fluid, if drained, would settle into the transmission's inner parts
    >>> and more than likely ruin it right away.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone have any experience with something like this? Is it
    >>> possible to save this tranny? Is this an exaggeration?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks in advance for your help and shared knowledge! :smokin:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> decoyfred

    >>
    >> You'd probably get a better answer from the people in the Toyota
    >> newsgroup.
    >>
    >> Ed
    >>
    >>



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    =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=
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    Default Re: Black Transmission Fluid - - Any Hope???

    On Wed, 02 May 2007 08:46:02 -0400, C. E. White wrote:

    >
    > "Mel" <NS_mel@texas.net> wrote in message news:f19vs1$t8q$2@aioe.org...
    >
    >> I checked with several junk yards and they told me Toyota transmissions
    >> never fail.

    >
    > Well, I have personal knowledge of two that failed - 84 Cressida and 89
    > Camry (kept working, but leaked so much oil you had to add it before
    > leaving the house).
    >
    > Ed



    I'm surprised...that the Cressida wasn't the leaky one.
    At least in '88 the Supra and the Cressida were about the same
    mechanically, and my tranny leaks like a sieve!


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    C. E. White
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    "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
    news:La0_h.7678$f17.1582@trndny05...
    > On Wed, 02 May 2007 08:46:02 -0400, C. E. White wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Mel" <NS_mel@texas.net> wrote in message
    >> news:f19vs1$t8q$2@aioe.org...
    >>
    >>> I checked with several junk yards and they told me Toyota
    >>> transmissions
    >>> never fail.

    >>
    >> Well, I have personal knowledge of two that failed - 84 Cressida
    >> and 89
    >> Camry (kept working, but leaked so much oil you had to add it
    >> before
    >> leaving the house).
    >>
    >> Ed

    >
    >
    > I'm surprised...that the Cressida wasn't the leaky one.
    > At least in '88 the Supra and the Cressida were about the same
    > mechanically, and my tranny leaks like a sieve!


    Having a 19 year old transmission leak is no big surprise (especially
    if it sits a lot). But the Camry was only about 8 years old, but it
    was high mileage. The d$%& Cressida transmission didn't leak, it just
    shifted weird and started slipping. It was neither old nor high
    mileage when it went bad.

    Ed



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    EdV
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    I can't find the other post with the similar situation, and somebody
    suggested to drain and fill twice to instead of a flush. The first
    drain is get out the fluid then refil and use the car and drain again
    after a couple of days. Makes sense to me and that will save some
    money, as Michael would say ATF is cheap and a new transmission is
    not.

    By the way which is better? a flush or a dropping the pan?


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    Ray O
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    "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1178124735.085232.315890@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
    >I can't find the other post with the similar situation, and somebody
    > suggested to drain and fill twice to instead of a flush. The first
    > drain is get out the fluid then refil and use the car and drain again
    > after a couple of days. Makes sense to me and that will save some
    > money, as Michael would say ATF is cheap and a new transmission is
    > not.
    >
    > By the way which is better? a flush or a dropping the pan?
    >


    Do not flush the transmission!!!

    It is not necessary to drop the pan. Just drain and re-fill.
    --

    Ray O
    (correct punctuation to reply)



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