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Old 06-10-2007, 01:47 AM
Timhryciw@gmail.com
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I have a paseo that starts fine when cold. If you drive the car and
shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only way I can
get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it starts like
it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt but that
did not help.

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Old 06-10-2007, 06:06 AM
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<Timhryciw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a paseo that starts fine when cold. If you drive the car and
> shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only way I can
> get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it starts like
> it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt but that
> did not help.
>


Does the coolant temperature gauge work properly? I am not sure if that
model has 1 or 2 coolant temperature senders, check to make sure they are
working properly by checking to see if the voltage goes up as coolant
temperature goes up.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:00 AM
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<Timhryciw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181429440.821150.275860@n15g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> >I have a paseo that starts fine when cold. If you drive the car and
>> > shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only way I can
>> > get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it starts like
>> > it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt but that
>> > did not help.

>>
>> Does the coolant temperature gauge work properly? I am not sure if that
>> model has 1 or 2 coolant temperature senders, check to make sure they are
>> working properly by checking to see if the voltage goes up as coolant
>> temperature goes up.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)

>
> Temperature gauge works fine. The car is driven 35 miles each way to
> work mostly on the freeway.
> Runs great lots of power just don't stop for gas or a mocha. Because
> then it is hard to start once it starts it runs fine. If it sits for
> 1/2 hr to an hour no trouble starting it.
> Tim
>


I think that there is more than 1 coolant temperature sender, and the one
for the computer may not be working so the computer thinks that the car is
cold and gives the engine an extra shot of fuel, which ends up flooding the
engine.

Also check the basics - air filter, make sure that there are no holes,
cracks, or gaps in the black plastic intake snorkel between the air filter
housing and the throttle body. If the spark plugs, ignition wires,
distributor cap, and rotor are old or are aftermarket, check their function
and see if you are getting a spark when it is hard to start.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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Old 06-12-2007, 12:12 AM
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<Timhryciw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 10, 9:03 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181501513.317797.102320@x35g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1181429440.821150.275860@n15g2000prd.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> >I have apaseothat starts fine when cold. If you drive the car and
>> >> > shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only way I
>> >> > can
>> >> > get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it starts
>> >> > like
>> >> > it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt but
>> >> > that
>> >> > did not help.

>>
>> >> Does the coolant temperature gauge work properly? I am not sure if
>> >> that
>> >> model has 1 or 2 coolant temperature senders, check to make sure they
>> >> are
>> >> working properly by checking to see if the voltage goes up as coolant
>> >> temperature goes up.
>> >> --

>>
>> >> Ray O
>> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>>
>> > Temperature gauge works fine. The car is driven 35 miles each way to
>> > work mostly on the freeway.
>> > Runs great lots of power just don't stop for gas or a mocha. Because
>> > then it is hard to start once it starts it runs fine. If it sits for
>> > 1/2 hr to an hour no trouble starting it.
>> > Tim

>>
>> I think that there is more than 1 coolant temperature sender, and the one
>> for the computer may not be working so the computer thinks that the car
>> is
>> cold and gives the engine an extra shot of fuel, which ends up flooding
>> the
>> engine.
>>
>> Also check the basics - air filter, make sure that there are no holes,
>> cracks, or gaps in the black plastic intake snorkel between the air
>> filter
>> housing and the throttle body. If the spark plugs, ignition wires,
>> distributor cap, and rotor are old or are aftermarket, check their
>> function
>> and see if you are getting a spark when it is hard to start.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)

>
> Where is the thermostat for the computer located? The plugs, dist cap
> and rotor are only about a month old.
> Thanks for your help.
> Tim
>


Sorry, I cannot remember where the coolant temperature sender for the
computer is located on a 1994 Paseo. The one for the temperature gauge is
usually located near the thermostat housing, and there may be a second one
nearby.

What brand are the plugs, distributor cap, and rotor? How old are the spark
plug wires? Was base ignition timing checked after the distributor cap was
replaced? Did you replace the ignition parts as part of a tune-up or did
you replace them for another reason?
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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Old 06-12-2007, 12:12 AM
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On Jun 11, 2:57 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1181598720.121426.306610@r19g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 10, 9:03 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1181501513.317797.102320@x35g2000prf.google groups.com...

>
> >> > On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> >> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >> >>news:1181429440.821150.275860@n15g2000prd.google groups.com...

>
> >> >> >I have apaseothat starts fine when cold. If you drive the car and
> >> >> > shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only way I
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it starts
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt but
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > did not help.

>
> >> >> Does the coolant temperature gauge work properly? I am not sure if
> >> >> that
> >> >> model has 1 or 2 coolant temperature senders, check to make sure they
> >> >> are
> >> >> working properly by checking to see if the voltage goes up as coolant
> >> >> temperature goes up.
> >> >> --

>
> >> >> Ray O
> >> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>
> >> > Temperature gauge works fine. The car is driven 35 miles each way to
> >> > work mostly on the freeway.
> >> > Runs great lots of power just don't stop for gas or a mocha. Because
> >> > then it is hard to start once it starts it runs fine. If it sits for
> >> > 1/2 hr to an hour no trouble starting it.
> >> > Tim

>
> >> I think that there is more than 1 coolant temperature sender, and the one
> >> for the computer may not be working so the computer thinks that the car
> >> is
> >> cold and gives the engine an extra shot of fuel, which ends up flooding
> >> the
> >> engine.

>
> >> Also check the basics - air filter, make sure that there are no holes,
> >> cracks, or gaps in the black plastic intake snorkel between the air
> >> filter
> >> housing and the throttle body. If the spark plugs, ignition wires,
> >> distributor cap, and rotor are old or are aftermarket, check their
> >> function
> >> and see if you are getting a spark when it is hard to start.
> >> --

>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>
> > Where is the thermostat for the computer located? The plugs, dist cap
> > and rotor are only about a month old.
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Tim

>
> Sorry, I cannot remember where the coolant temperature sender for the
> computer is located on a 1994 Paseo. The one for the temperature gauge is
> usually located near the thermostat housing, and there may be a second one
> nearby.
>
> What brand are the plugs, distributor cap, and rotor? How old are the spark
> plug wires? Was base ignition timing checked after the distributor cap was
> replaced? Did you replace the ignition parts as part of a tune-up or did
> you replace them for another reason?
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)


The plugs(ngk) cap and rotor were replaced as part of a tune up timing
was checked. Plug wires are Toyota brand not sure how old they are but
they are soft and not cracked.

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:12 AM
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<Timhryciw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 11, 2:57 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181598720.121426.306610@r19g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 10, 9:03 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1181501513.317797.102320@x35g2000prf.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> > On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >> >>news:1181429440.821150.275860@n15g2000prd.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> >> >I have apaseothat starts fine when cold. If you drive the car and
>> >> >> > shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only way I
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it starts
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt but
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > did not help.

>>
>> >> >> Does the coolant temperature gauge work properly? I am not sure if
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> model has 1 or 2 coolant temperature senders, check to make sure
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> working properly by checking to see if the voltage goes up as
>> >> >> coolant
>> >> >> temperature goes up.
>> >> >> --

>>
>> >> >> Ray O
>> >> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>>
>> >> > Temperature gauge works fine. The car is driven 35 miles each way to
>> >> > work mostly on the freeway.
>> >> > Runs great lots of power just don't stop for gas or a mocha. Because
>> >> > then it is hard to start once it starts it runs fine. If it sits for
>> >> > 1/2 hr to an hour no trouble starting it.
>> >> > Tim

>>
>> >> I think that there is more than 1 coolant temperature sender, and the
>> >> one
>> >> for the computer may not be working so the computer thinks that the
>> >> car
>> >> is
>> >> cold and gives the engine an extra shot of fuel, which ends up
>> >> flooding
>> >> the
>> >> engine.

>>
>> >> Also check the basics - air filter, make sure that there are no holes,
>> >> cracks, or gaps in the black plastic intake snorkel between the air
>> >> filter
>> >> housing and the throttle body. If the spark plugs, ignition wires,
>> >> distributor cap, and rotor are old or are aftermarket, check their
>> >> function
>> >> and see if you are getting a spark when it is hard to start.
>> >> --

>>
>> >> Ray O
>> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>>
>> > Where is the thermostat for the computer located? The plugs, dist cap
>> > and rotor are only about a month old.
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> > Tim

>>
>> Sorry, I cannot remember where the coolant temperature sender for the
>> computer is located on a 1994 Paseo. The one for the temperature gauge
>> is
>> usually located near the thermostat housing, and there may be a second
>> one
>> nearby.
>>
>> What brand are the plugs, distributor cap, and rotor? How old are the
>> spark
>> plug wires? Was base ignition timing checked after the distributor cap
>> was
>> replaced? Did you replace the ignition parts as part of a tune-up or did
>> you replace them for another reason?
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)

>
> The plugs(ngk) cap and rotor were replaced as part of a tune up timing
> was checked. Plug wires are Toyota brand not sure how old they are but
> they are soft and not cracked.
>


I am running out of ideas without actually seeing the car, so it is time to
go back to basics. An engine need 3 things to operate, all at the
appropriate time and amounts. Check for air, fuel, and spark. My guess is
that you are not getting spark, or you are getting too little air, or the
computer thinks the engine has not warmed up so it is over-enriching the
engine.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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Old 06-14-2007, 07:11 PM
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<Timhryciw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 11, 3:28 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181600286.113003.96180@g37g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 11, 2:57 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1181598720.121426.306610@r19g2000prf.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> > On Jun 10, 9:03 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >> >>news:1181501513.317797.102320@x35g2000prf.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> >> > On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> <Timhry...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >> >> >>news:1181429440.821150.275860@n15g2000prd.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> >> >> >I have apaseothat starts fine when cold. If you drive the car
>> >> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >> > shut it off for a few minutes it is hard to start. The only
>> >> >> >> > way I
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > get it to start is push the gas pedal to the floor and it
>> >> >> >> > starts
>> >> >> >> > like
>> >> >> >> > it is flooded. I took out the injectors and had them rebuilt
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > did not help.

>>
>> >> >> >> Does the coolant temperature gauge work properly? I am not sure
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> model has 1 or 2 coolant temperature senders, check to make sure
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> working properly by checking to see if the voltage goes up as
>> >> >> >> coolant
>> >> >> >> temperature goes up.
>> >> >> >> --

>>
>> >> >> >> Ray O
>> >> >> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>>
>> >> >> > Temperature gauge works fine. The car is driven 35 miles each way
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > work mostly on the freeway.
>> >> >> > Runs great lots of power just don't stop for gas or a mocha.
>> >> >> > Because
>> >> >> > then it is hard to start once it starts it runs fine. If it sits
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > 1/2 hr to an hour no trouble starting it.
>> >> >> > Tim

>>
>> >> >> I think that there is more than 1 coolant temperature sender, and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> one
>> >> >> for the computer may not be working so the computer thinks that the
>> >> >> car
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> cold and gives the engine an extra shot of fuel, which ends up
>> >> >> flooding
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> engine.

>>
>> >> >> Also check the basics - air filter, make sure that there are no
>> >> >> holes,
>> >> >> cracks, or gaps in the black plastic intake snorkel between the air
>> >> >> filter
>> >> >> housing and the throttle body. If the spark plugs, ignition wires,
>> >> >> distributor cap, and rotor are old or are aftermarket, check their
>> >> >> function
>> >> >> and see if you are getting a spark when it is hard to start.
>> >> >> --

>>
>> >> >> Ray O
>> >> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>>
>> >> > Where is the thermostat for the computer located? The plugs, dist
>> >> > cap
>> >> > and rotor are only about a month old.
>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>> >> > Tim

>>
>> >> Sorry, I cannot remember where the coolant temperature sender for the
>> >> computer is located on a1994Paseo. The one for the temperature gauge
>> >> is
>> >> usually located near the thermostat housing, and there may be a second
>> >> one
>> >> nearby.

>>
>> >> What brand are the plugs, distributor cap, and rotor? How old are the
>> >> spark
>> >> plug wires? Was base ignition timing checked after the distributor
>> >> cap
>> >> was
>> >> replaced? Did you replace the ignition parts as part of a tune-up or
>> >> did
>> >> you replace them for another reason?
>> >> --

>>
>> >> Ray O
>> >> (correct punctuation to reply)

>>
>> > The plugs(ngk) cap and rotor were replaced as part of a tune up timing
>> > was checked. Plug wires are Toyota brand not sure how old they are but
>> > they are soft and not cracked.

>>
>> I am running out of ideas without actually seeing the car, so it is time
>> to
>> go back to basics. An engine need 3 things to operate, all at the
>> appropriate time and amounts. Check for air, fuel, and spark. My guess
>> is
>> that you are not getting spark, or you are getting too little air, or the
>> computer thinks the engine has not warmed up so it is over-enriching the
>> engine.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)

>
> The temperature sending unit for the computer tested bad. Got a new
> sending unit and the car runs great again.
> Thanks
>


Thank you for the update!

It's nice to know that my initial thought was correct, and that I haven't
forgotten too much about cars ;-)
--

Ray O
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