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09-17-2008, 09:37 PM
| | | Used 1994 850 wagon - good idea? Bad idea? I am looking at possibly buying a used 1994 850 wagon, 120K miles. Automatic, turbo, leather, 15" alloy wheels - all original.
It has received correct maintenance and repair from the original owner whom I know very well.
Basically perfect mechanical condition, and as it sits, the car needs tires, brakes, and an alignment (according to the honest owner).
The price to me would be very low, but I'm concerned about costs and reliability down the road.
Of course, any thing could be a time bomb - transmission, turbo, etc.
And I get it that some level of expense will be required to keep this car going into old age.
But if anyone has thoughts on what I'm looking at with this car, I would appreciate the info.
Just as an example, something like the valve guides needing replacement (which I understand Volvo now requires replacement via a re-built head versus the individual guides replacement) seems like it would start to approach the book value of the car.
I'm willing to accept a certain amount of yearly maintenance/repair cost, but I don't really want to dump $3-5K every year into a car with no book value.
Can anyone help me get a realistic picture of what I would be looking at with this car?
I've always like this car since it's introduction, and I can do a lot of work (such as brakes) myself.
Regards - Dave | 
09-17-2008, 11:31 PM
| | | Re: Used 1994 850 wagon - good idea? Bad idea? DST wrote:
> I am looking at possibly buying a used 1994 850 wagon, 120K miles.
> Automatic, turbo, leather, 15" alloy wheels - all original.
> It has received correct maintenance and repair from the original owner
> whom I know very well.
> Basically perfect mechanical condition, and as it sits, the car needs
> tires, brakes, and an alignment (according to the honest owner).
>
> The price to me would be very low, but I'm concerned about costs and
> reliability down the road.
> Of course, any thing could be a time bomb - transmission, turbo, etc.
> And I get it that some level of expense will be required to keep this
> car going into old age.
> But if anyone has thoughts on what I'm looking at with this car, I would
> appreciate the info.
> Just as an example, something like the valve guides needing replacement
> (which I understand Volvo now requires replacement via a re-built head
> versus the individual guides replacement) seems like it would start to
> approach the book value of the car.
> I'm willing to accept a certain amount of yearly maintenance/repair
> cost, but I don't really want to dump $3-5K every year into a car with
> no book value.
>
> Can anyone help me get a realistic picture of what I would be looking at
> with this car?
>
> I've always like this car since it's introduction, and I can do a lot of
> work (such as brakes) myself.
>
> Regards - Dave
There was a problem with the lifters not getting enough oil - mainly
in the '93 model, but also some '94s. Same thing with early transmission
failure. If it's got new lifters and the transmission has had regular
fluid changes, it might be ok. If it clatters noticeably, that's $1k+ to
fix. | 
09-20-2008, 04:32 PM
| | | Re: Used 1994 850 wagon - good idea? Bad idea? DST <graxnarf@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am looking at possibly buying a used 1994 850 wagon, 120K miles. Automatic,
> turbo, leather, 15" alloy wheels - all original.
> It has received correct maintenance and repair from the original owner whom I
> know very well.
> Basically perfect mechanical condition, and as it sits, the car needs tires,
> brakes, and an alignment (according to the honest owner).
This is the second year of the 850. The '93 and '94 have a automatic
transmission issue that normally hits between 80,000 and 125,000 miles.
It requires a rebuilt transmission which is very expensive since it also
includes the FWD stuff. Mine cost $4,000 to replace. Otherwise this is
a fairly solid model. The leather seats and turbo are sources of
problems also. The turbo will eventually wear out and need replacing.
Leather seats on old cars tend to look bad but will continue to give
good service.
--
Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA
Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos.
The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html | 
09-22-2008, 07:52 AM
| | | Re: Used 1994 850 wagon - good idea? Bad idea? Stephen Henning wrote:
> DST <graxnarf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking at possibly buying a used 1994 850 wagon, 120K miles. Automatic,
>> turbo, leather, 15" alloy wheels - all original.
>> It has received correct maintenance and repair from the original owner whom I
>> know very well.
>> Basically perfect mechanical condition, and as it sits, the car needs tires,
>> brakes, and an alignment (according to the honest owner).
>
> This is the second year of the 850. The '93 and '94 have a automatic
> transmission issue that normally hits between 80,000 and 125,000 miles.
> It requires a rebuilt transmission which is very expensive since it also
> includes the FWD stuff. Mine cost $4,000 to replace. Otherwise this is
> a fairly solid model. The leather seats and turbo are sources of
> problems also. The turbo will eventually wear out and need replacing.
> Leather seats on old cars tend to look bad but will continue to give
> good service.
Thanks, Stephen!
That's the sort of information that might be very helpful.
The owner did have a tranny repair early on, some sort of valve as he remembers, nothing major, and fixed under warranty.
People have been kind and generous to me with their info, and so far I've read about the possibility of repairs for this car in these areas:
- valve guides (expensive repair)
- valve lifters (around $1K)
- A/T rebuild (as much as $4K)
- Turbo
The turbo is a consumable, as I reckon, so it doesn't scare me.
But putting a trans that expensive into this car scares me off - that's about the value of the car, and I don't see that it makes sense as just transportation.
We're getting closer to seeing what he wants to do with the car, so if I can maintain interest then my next step is to take it to a reputable mechanic and get his take.
My priorities in a car are reliability, comfort, and economy.
I greatly appreciate your help!
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