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sjmmail2000-247@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> The first step has been achieved and now only some on-the-road promotion is needed with a few select testimonials. Honda has delivered the first three examples of the FCX Clarity, a hydrogen-powered[...]

<snip spam.>

ok, moron, we know you're a p.r. hack trolling for your masters, and
trying to stir up some market buzz. well, now you can pay attention to
some market feedback:

did you notice how much attention you generated over the last 3 days?
did you have a hit counter to your link? not exactly overwhelming was
it! well, that's exactly how much interest there is in the real world
for hydrogen cars.

dumb-ass politicians that aren't good at science or math may think it's
good to be driving around with an energy-sucking bomb in the trunk of
their car, but the rest of us don't. so tell your masters that they're
wasting /their/ time and /our/ money promoting bullshit "technology"
they don't understand. hydrogen is not "free", it's /extremely/ energy
expensive. and it's extremely dangerous to both handle and have driving
around on the road in quantity.

wasting political capital and taxpayers dollars on technically
underinformed, environmentally/scientifically ignorant, practically
dangerous pipe-dreaming may not be a new phenomenon, but in this case,
it's a killer. tell them that and personally imagine rear-ending
several kilograms of ultra-high explosive as you drive home from the
office. there is one benefit though - if you ever actually /do/ get to
do so, your family will be spared the messy business of body
identification that happens in most motor fatalities. on detonation of
an hydrogen tank, there will be no body left to identify, just a BIG
smoking hole in the ground. have a nice day.

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:4IGdnZplws8uGMPVnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> sjmmail2000-247@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> The first step has been achieved and now only some on-the-road
>> promotion is needed with a few select testimonials. Honda has
>> delivered the first three examples of the FCX Clarity, a
>> hydrogen-powered[...]
>
> <snip spam.>
>
> ok, moron, we know you're a p.r. hack trolling for your masters, and
> trying to stir up some market buzz. well, now you can pay attention
> to some market feedback:
>
> did you notice how much attention you generated over the last 3
> days? did you have a hit counter to your link? not exactly
> overwhelming was it! well, that's exactly how much interest there
> is in the real world for hydrogen cars.
>
> dumb-ass politicians that aren't good at science or math may think
> it's good to be driving around with an energy-sucking bomb in the
> trunk of their car, but the rest of us don't. so tell your masters
> that they're wasting /their/ time and /our/ money promoting bullshit
> "technology" they don't understand. hydrogen is not "free", it's
> /extremely/ energy expensive. and it's extremely dangerous to both
> handle and have driving around on the road in quantity.
>
> wasting political capital and taxpayers dollars on technically
> underinformed, environmentally/scientifically ignorant, practically
> dangerous pipe-dreaming may not be a new phenomenon, but in this
> case, it's a killer. tell them that and personally imagine
> rear-ending several kilograms of ultra-high explosive as you drive
> home from the office. there is one benefit though - if you ever
> actually /do/ get to do so, your family will be spared the messy
> business of body identification that happens in most motor
> fatalities. on detonation of an hydrogen tank, there will be no
> body left to identify, just a BIG smoking hole in the ground. have
> a nice day.
>

"Oh, the humanity"

"Kent Finnell" <kentfinn@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:K7pbk.20575$Xe.5470@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:39Aak.12925$uE5.9981@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:4IGdnZplws8uGMPVnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> sjmmail2000-247@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>>> The first step has been achieved and now only some on-the-road
>>>> promotion is needed with a few select testimonials. Honda has
>>>> delivered the first three examples of the FCX Clarity, a
>>>> hydrogen-powered[...]
>>>
>>> <snip spam.>
>>>
>>> ok, moron, we know you're a p.r. hack trolling for your masters,
>>> and trying to stir up some market buzz. well, now you can pay
>>> attention to some market feedback:
>>>
>>> did you notice how much attention you generated over the last 3
>>> days? did you have a hit counter to your link? not exactly
>>> overwhelming was it! well, that's exactly how much interest there
>>> is in the real world for hydrogen cars.
>>>
>>> dumb-ass politicians that aren't good at science or math may think
>>> it's good to be driving around with an energy-sucking bomb in the
>>> trunk of their car, but the rest of us don't. so tell your
>>> masters that they're wasting /their/ time and /our/ money
>>> promoting bullshit "technology" they don't understand. hydrogen
>>> is not "free", it's /extremely/ energy expensive. and it's
>>> extremely dangerous to both handle and have driving around on the
>>> road in quantity.
>>>
>>> wasting political capital and taxpayers dollars on technically
>>> underinformed, environmentally/scientifically ignorant,
>>> practically dangerous pipe-dreaming may not be a new phenomenon,
>>> but in this case, it's a killer. tell them that and personally
>>> imagine rear-ending several kilograms of ultra-high explosive as
>>> you drive home from the office. there is one benefit though - if
>>> you ever actually /do/ get to do so, your family will be spared
>>> the messy business of body identification that happens in most
>>> motor fatalities. on detonation of an hydrogen tank, there will
>>> be no body left to identify, just a BIG smoking hole in the
>>> ground. have a nice day.
>>>
>>
>> "Oh, the humanity"
> "Oh, the bullshit."
>
> The FCX Clarity and its fueling stations are NOT the Hindenburg, a
> very large fabric covered bag with a huge amount of helium on board.
> It's not the 1930s, technology has advanced 70 years. Besides the
> Clarity is not a Ford Pinto.
>
>
> --
> "Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
> - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
>
> Kent Finnell, From the Music City

All you need to do is make sure you are close enough to one of these
when you need a fill...

http://www.fuelcells.org/info/charts...ngstations.pdf

It still is not cost effective. Even when readily available, based on
the general laws of supply and demand, the costs of using this type of
fuel would be on par (or maybe higher) than fossil fuels.



>
>

"Kent Finnell" <kentfinn@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:zFubk.20969$3F5.14669@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bLpbk.545$cn7.501@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "Kent Finnell" <kentfinn@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:K7pbk.20575$Xe.5470@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:39Aak.12925$uE5.9981@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>>>
>>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4IGdnZplws8uGMPVnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>>> sjmmail2000-247@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>> The first step has been achieved and now only some on-the-road
>>>>>> promotion is needed with a few select testimonials. Honda has
>>>>>> delivered the first three examples of the FCX Clarity, a
>>>>>> hydrogen-powered[...]
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip spam.>
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, moron, we know you're a p.r. hack trolling for your masters,
>>>>> and trying to stir up some market buzz. well, now you can pay
>>>>> attention to some market feedback:
>>>>>
>>>>> did you notice how much attention you generated over the last 3
>>>>> days? did you have a hit counter to your link? not exactly
>>>>> overwhelming was it! well, that's exactly how much interest
>>>>> there is in the real world for hydrogen cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> dumb-ass politicians that aren't good at science or math may
>>>>> think it's good to be driving around with an energy-sucking bomb
>>>>> in the trunk of their car, but the rest of us don't. so tell
>>>>> your masters that they're wasting /their/ time and /our/ money
>>>>> promoting bullshit "technology" they don't understand. hydrogen
>>>>> is not "free", it's /extremely/ energy expensive. and it's
>>>>> extremely dangerous to both handle and have driving around on
>>>>> the road in quantity.
>>>>>
>>>>> wasting political capital and taxpayers dollars on technically
>>>>> underinformed, environmentally/scientifically ignorant,
>>>>> practically dangerous pipe-dreaming may not be a new phenomenon,
>>>>> but in this case, it's a killer. tell them that and personally
>>>>> imagine rear-ending several kilograms of ultra-high explosive as
>>>>> you drive home from the office. there is one benefit though - if
>>>>> you ever actually /do/ get to do so, your family will be spared
>>>>> the messy business of body identification that happens in most
>>>>> motor fatalities. on detonation of an hydrogen tank, there will
>>>>> be no body left to identify, just a BIG smoking hole in the
>>>>> ground. have a nice day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Oh, the humanity"
>>> "Oh, the bullshit."
>>>
>>> The FCX Clarity and its fueling stations are NOT the Hindenburg, a
>>> very large fabric covered bag with a huge amount of helium on
>>> board. It's not the 1930s, technology has advanced 70 years.
>>> Besides the Clarity is not a Ford Pinto.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
>>> - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
>>>
>>> Kent Finnell, From the Music City
>>
>> All you need to do is make sure you are close enough to one of
>> these when you need a fill...
>>
>> http://www.fuelcells.org/info/charts...ngstations.pdf
>>
>> It still is not cost effective. Even when readily available, based
>> on the general laws of supply and demand, the costs of using this
>> type of fuel would be on par (or maybe higher) than fossil fuels.
>>
>>
> Yeah, only in a small area in California, but this is only Honda's
> 2nd or 3rd generation effort. Each time they improve the
> efficiency, lower the size, reduce the cost and increase the power.
> By the 4th or 5th generation, who knows? Honda might even inspire
> others to compete.

I would think that if there are enough refueling locations to make it
a viable alternative (even if the cost is equivalent to fossil fuel)
it would be a worthwhile endevor just because of the environmental
considerations. It will take time.

>
> Upps, it looks like I was thinking the more widely publicized Honda
> effort and the US only. I knew that Ford, GM, and BMW are working
> on it, but they are generally laying low. Much of the rest are
> government facilities and projects,

US manufacturers tend to be followers, let someone else incur the
costs of the development and then making it marketable. Only then do
they jump on the bandwagon...

>
> The technology is still in its infancy and who knows what kind of
> breakthroughs are down the road.
>
> In the meantime, it makes more sense than converting food into fuel.

Much more readily available and not prone to floods and.or poor crop
yields! (plus it would help keep the tortilla costs down).


>
>
> --
> Kent Finnell
> From the Music City, USA
>

I still think the Clarity stole the styling that was meant to be the
new Accord. Then Honda had to do a rush job to come up with the mess
that is the '09 Accord.