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    Kevin G.
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    Default 1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

    Hello,

    I am in the process of replacing my '98 Civic's spark plugs and have
    purchased some new Autolite brand ("Platinum" model) spark plugs that
    appear to be gapped at .040". However, the specifications for the
    Civic are to have the gap be .044". Should I bother trying to widen
    the gap the extra .004"? What would happen if I did not have the
    correct gap?

    Thanks,
    Kevin




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    jim beam
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    Kevin G. wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am in the process of replacing my '98 Civic's spark plugs and have
    > purchased some new Autolite brand ("Platinum" model) spark plugs that
    > appear to be gapped at .040". However, the specifications for the
    > Civic are to have the gap be .044". Should I bother trying to widen
    > the gap the extra .004"? What would happen if I did not have the
    > correct gap?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Kevin
    >

    return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have been
    around the block a few times and that have tried many different plugs
    will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as well or
    as reliably. and both those factors save you money.

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    motsco_
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    Default Re: 1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

    jim beam wrote:
    > return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    > don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have been
    > around the block a few times and that have tried many different plugs
    > will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as well or
    > as reliably. and both those factors save you money.


    -------------------------------

    Like Jim said. Take them back.

    'Curly'

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    Tegger
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    "Kevin G." <KevinGravelle@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:1191759236.724969.200810@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com:

    > Thanks, everyone, for your replies.
    >
    > Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    > that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?




    Not really. See my other post.

    But it's still not correct. You have an emissions system that's pretty
    sensitive. Use of the wrong -- or wrongly gapped -- plugs increases the
    probability of a Check Engine light illumination.



    >
    > Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    > gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?




    That would not be smart. You should use a spark plug gapping tool. And,
    unfortunately, it is way too easy to scratch the platinum coating while
    gapping,in which case the coating will erode off in no time.

    Also, burrs caused by pliers will cause hot spots on the plugs, which can
    lead to pre-ignition and engine damage.

    If I were you, I'd bite the bullet and buy the correct plugs as given on
    your hood sticker.




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    Tegger
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    "Kevin G." <KevinGravelle@gmail.com> wrote in news:1191726102.200920.321500
    @r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I am in the process of replacing my '98 Civic's spark plugs and have
    > purchased some new Autolite brand ("Platinum" model) spark plugs that
    > appear to be gapped at .040". However, the specifications for the
    > Civic are to have the gap be .044". Should I bother trying to widen
    > the gap the extra .004"? What would happen if I did not have the
    > correct gap?
    >



    Buy the correct plugs. The ones whose numbers end in "-11" are already
    pregapped to .044". NGK is correct. Autolite is not.

    If the gap is too small by .004", you'll get ever so slightly lower mileage
    and ever so slightly higher emissions. You won't even notice the
    difference.


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    jim beam
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    Default Re: 1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

    Kevin G. wrote:
    > Thanks, everyone, for your replies.
    >
    > Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    > that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?
    >
    > Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    > gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Kevin


    if your objective in using these plugs is to have something longer
    lasting or something that "preforms" better, consider ngk iridiums.


    >
    > On Oct 7, 3:19 am, Matt Ion <soundy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> motsco_ wrote:
    >>> jim beam wrote:
    >>>> return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    >>>> don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have
    >>>> been around the block a few times and that have tried many different
    >>>> plugs will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as
    >>>> well or as reliably. and both those factors save you money.
    >>> -------------------------------
    >>> Like Jim said. Take them back.

    >> I think you people put WAY too much emphasis on specific brands of plugs
    >> being "better" for certain cars. My '87 Accord has been running the
    >> same set of Bosch Platinums for over two years with nary a hiccup. In
    >> fact, I only just recently had to pull them out to track a blown head
    >> gasket (RIP) and they're still in good condition.

    >
    >


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    jim beam
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    jim beam wrote:
    > Kevin G. wrote:
    >> Thanks, everyone, for your replies.
    >>
    >> Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    >> that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?
    >>
    >> Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    >> gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Kevin

    >
    > if your objective in using these plugs is to have something longer
    > lasting or something that "preforms" better, consider ngk iridiums.


    i'm sorry, performs, not preforms.


    >
    >
    >>
    >> On Oct 7, 3:19 am, Matt Ion <soundy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>> motsco_ wrote:
    >>>> jim beam wrote:
    >>>>> return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    >>>>> don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have
    >>>>> been around the block a few times and that have tried many different
    >>>>> plugs will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as
    >>>>> well or as reliably. and both those factors save you money.
    >>>> -------------------------------
    >>>> Like Jim said. Take them back.
    >>> I think you people put WAY too much emphasis on specific brands of plugs
    >>> being "better" for certain cars. My '87 Accord has been running the
    >>> same set of Bosch Platinums for over two years with nary a hiccup. In
    >>> fact, I only just recently had to pull them out to track a blown head
    >>> gasket (RIP) and they're still in good condition.

    >>
    >>


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    Kevin G.
    Guest

    Default Re: 1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

    Thanks again, everyone, for your replies. It looks like I should be
    focusing my attention on NGK or Bosch spark plugs, which are both the
    exact gap that I need.

    Now that we have taken care of the spark plugs, I have also already
    purchased the Bosch spark plug wire set. Is this a "bad" wire set? I
    am reading some negative comments about Bosch in this post. If I did
    purchase the NGK plugs, would they "mesh" good with the Bosch wires?
    Or, should I stick with Bosch plugs since I already have the Bosch
    wires?

    Thanks for your continued assistance.

    Kevin

    On Oct 7, 12:01 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
    > jim beam wrote:
    > > Kevin G. wrote:
    > >> Thanks, everyone, for your replies.

    >
    > >> Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    > >> that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?

    >
    > >> Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    > >> gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?

    >
    > >> Thanks,
    > >> Kevin

    >
    > > if your objective in using these plugs is to have something longer
    > > lasting or something that "preforms" better, consider ngk iridiums.

    >
    > i'm sorry, performs, not preforms.
    >
    >
    >
    > >> On Oct 7, 3:19 am, Matt Ion <soundy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >>> motsco_ wrote:
    > >>>> jim beam wrote:
    > >>>>> return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    > >>>>> don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have
    > >>>>> been around the block a few times and that have tried many different
    > >>>>> plugs will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as
    > >>>>> well or as reliably. and both those factors save you money.
    > >>>> -------------------------------
    > >>>> Like Jim said. Take them back.
    > >>> I think you people put WAY too much emphasis on specific brands of plugs
    > >>> being "better" for certain cars. My '87 Accord has been running the
    > >>> same set of Bosch Platinums for over two years with nary a hiccup. In
    > >>> fact, I only just recently had to pull them out to track a blown head
    > >>> gasket (RIP) and they're still in good condition.




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    Matt Ion
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    Default Re: 1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

    Kevin G. wrote:
    > Thanks, everyone, for your replies.
    >
    > Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    > that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?
    >
    > Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    > gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?


    You can use pliers or a small screwdriver, but a proper gapping tool
    should only cost you about $2-$5. Any good set of plug gauges will
    include a gapping tool.

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    jim beam
    Guest

    Default Re: 1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

    Kevin G. wrote:
    > Thanks again, everyone, for your replies. It looks like I should be
    > focusing my attention on NGK or Bosch spark plugs, which are both the
    > exact gap that I need.


    again, i would avoid bosch. i've had many bad experiences with those
    things being fine one day, visually perfect on inspection, but the car
    will simply refuse to start. ngk will keep on working until the
    electrodes are melted stubs of nothingness. absolutely utterly reliable.


    >
    > Now that we have taken care of the spark plugs, I have also already
    > purchased the Bosch spark plug wire set. Is this a "bad" wire set? I
    > am reading some negative comments about Bosch in this post. If I did
    > purchase the NGK plugs, would they "mesh" good with the Bosch wires?
    > Or, should I stick with Bosch plugs since I already have the Bosch
    > wires?


    again, i'd take them back and spring the few extra bucks for oem or ngk.
    if you want a little extra fizz, the coiled core plug leads are
    excellent - magnecor or, of course, ngk.


    >
    > Thanks for your continued assistance.
    >
    > Kevin
    >
    > On Oct 7, 12:01 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
    >> jim beam wrote:
    >>> Kevin G. wrote:
    >>>> Thanks, everyone, for your replies.
    >>>> Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    >>>> that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?
    >>>> Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    >>>> gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?
    >>>> Thanks,
    >>>> Kevin
    >>> if your objective in using these plugs is to have something longer
    >>> lasting or something that "preforms" better, consider ngk iridiums.

    >> i'm sorry, performs, not preforms.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>> On Oct 7, 3:19 am, Matt Ion <soundy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>> motsco_ wrote:
    >>>>>> jim beam wrote:
    >>>>>>> return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    >>>>>>> don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have
    >>>>>>> been around the block a few times and that have tried many different
    >>>>>>> plugs will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as
    >>>>>>> well or as reliably. and both those factors save you money.
    >>>>>> -------------------------------
    >>>>>> Like Jim said. Take them back.
    >>>>> I think you people put WAY too much emphasis on specific brands of plugs
    >>>>> being "better" for certain cars. My '87 Accord has been running the
    >>>>> same set of Bosch Platinums for over two years with nary a hiccup. In
    >>>>> fact, I only just recently had to pull them out to track a blown head
    >>>>> gasket (RIP) and they're still in good condition.

    >
    >


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